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Old May 6, 2003 | 5:09 am
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Blackout Dates?

I'm trying to book a *A Award in Business or First from JNB to FRA and onwards to EDI for early January 2004. I know this is a very busy time an availability is likely to be restricted but bmi are telling me that LH do not just restrict availability at this this time but have a complete blackout even for *A Gold.

Can anyone confirm whether this is the case?
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Old May 6, 2003 | 5:26 am
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M&M does not have blackout dates, but as you like to redeem an award paying with Diamond Club "soft money", I am transfer your request to the BD forum.

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Old May 6, 2003 | 6:35 am
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Blackout dates and availability are not the same:

Blackout dates: Dates when no burning of miles is allowed.
Availability: award tickets in Business class are issued in booking class "I" for M&M.


LH/M&M has no blackout dates. I don't know about bmi. bmi might have blackout dates for LH flights. You can only find out from bmi.

Availability: It Is possible for M&M members with enough points to check availability for business class award tickets. But that doesn't mean that you can get an award ticket with bmi miles if 'I' shows availability. (I think 'I' is M&M stock but no Star stock - but I'm not 100% sure)
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Old May 6, 2003 | 6:54 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by LH738:
LH/M&M has no blackout dates. I don't know about bmi. bmi might have blackout dates for LH flights. You can only find out from bmi.

Availability: It Is possible for M&M members with enough points to check availability for business class award tickets. But that doesn't mean that you can get an award ticket with bmi miles if 'I' shows availability. (I think 'I' is M&M stock but no Star stock - but I'm not 100% sure)
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When I spoke to bmi all they could tell me was that no availability for award travel in either First or Business was showing on the dates I required. I will call them back to ask what class they would be booked in. BD use the LH reservation system so I would assume that the booking classes are the same although LH may have a way for restricting available award inventory to BD.

It would be interesting to know if different booking class were used for *A awards and M&M awards.
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Old May 6, 2003 | 7:56 am
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"bmi are telling me that LH do not just restrict availability at this this time but have a complete blackout even for *A Gold. "

Obviously some seats are available to LH Miles and More members.

I would try the dates posted on the LH forum (5, 7 and 8 of January JNB-MUC-FRA) and see if you get a positive. It is a busy time of year and they may have very few reward seats for this route. Going via Munich will help since that is a fairly new route that people are largely unaware of.
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