Rant: BMI DC Do Not Honour Gold For Life
Jun 29, 2012, 3:42 pm
#32
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So I'm not sure what is actually the case. Are they allowed to keep the bmi brand and diamond club after that date.
Jun 29, 2012, 9:00 pm
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In which case I will miss my lifetime gold as my year is Nov- Nov and I was hoping to be a lifetime gold for at least a few days of my life...
Jun 30, 2012, 6:22 am
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Jun 30, 2012, 6:31 am
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And what has the English language got to do with it?
Jun 30, 2012, 6:22 pm
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Nobody that I saw challenged any of those statements. While I haven't seen many posts by NeverFirst, obviously you and Raffles are quite active here and I believe well respected members. Being I haven't been really reading this forum over the past month, I was quite shocked to see this talk of BMI/DC already being shut down. But without some new thread or official announcement, I also had my doubts this was correct. Thus my tongue-in-cheek comments about the English language perhaps meaning something different all of a sudden.
Jul 1, 2012, 1:10 am
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What does the OP Intend to do if they did retain Lifetime Gold:
No BMI Lounges to use
No Star Alliance Membership
No BMI Aircraft
No BMI seats to pe-book
No BMI Flights to Upgrade
No BMI Lounges to use
No Star Alliance Membership
No BMI Aircraft
No BMI seats to pe-book
No BMI Flights to Upgrade
Jul 1, 2012, 4:21 pm
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Then tell me, when did BMI close down? Why are there still so many posts in this forum titled, "bmi diamond club"? Why is there still a BMI website? Why are you still able to apparently book tickets on BMI? Why is my DC account still active? As I said before, it appears that although we're evidently communicating in English, there's a different version of English out there that I do not understand.
The phrase "And BMI's life is now over." obviously has a completely different meaning to you and others than it has to me. As far as I'm concerned, it is a completely false statement, and thus misinformation.
The phrase "And BMI's life is now over." obviously has a completely different meaning to you and others than it has to me. As far as I'm concerned, it is a completely false statement, and thus misinformation.
Jul 1, 2012, 5:07 pm
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If you do that properly, you will see that the word "life" was not being used by Raffles in the mechanical and technical way in which you have been reading it.
Does that help to explain the difference in view?
Jul 1, 2012, 6:23 pm
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It's a characteristic of the English language that it's very context-specific. You cannot extract meaning out of single words like a robot trying to translate by using a dictionary. You can't read Raffles' single sentence in isolation. You must read it in the context of the entire post in which it was contained, and also in the context of both the posts to which it was replying.
If you do that properly, you will see that the word "life" was not being used by Raffles in the mechanical and technical way in which you have been reading it.
Does that help to explain the difference in view?
If you do that properly, you will see that the word "life" was not being used by Raffles in the mechanical and technical way in which you have been reading it.
Does that help to explain the difference in view?
Still I cannot see how the context of that post or of the preceding two posts in the thread change the meaning any. BMI gold status is still valid. BMI is still in business. Lifetime gold status is still listed in the DC T&C's. The only thing that has changed is that BMI is no longer a member of *A, and it looks like BMI will go away in the future, though AFAIK, no firm date has yet been set. So BMI and any BMI gold status likely have a very limited life, but by no means is it now over.
Jul 2, 2012, 2:47 am
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BMI is still in business. Lifetime gold status is still listed in the DC T&C's. The only thing that has changed is that BMI is no longer a member of *A, and it looks like BMI will go away in the future, though AFAIK, no firm date has yet been set. So BMI and any BMI gold status likely have a very limited life, but by no means is it now over.
That's a reasonable analogy for the state that BD is now in. There are now few BD routes left. It will be only a matter of a handful of months (and perhaps only a few weeks) before BD is no longer in business on its own account. It might limp on for a few more weeks after that as a vehicle by which BA services are technically operated, but only until all the BD assets can be brought over onto the BA AOC. I think it would surprise many of us if BD were still in existence on 28 October 2012, the start of the northern winter season.
Indeed, your suggestion that "the only thing that has changed is that BMI is no longer a member of *A, and it looks like BMI will go away in the future" would be the understatement of the year. BD has pretty much gone away already.
Jul 2, 2012, 2:50 am
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Sorry, I guess I'm just stupid and cannot see it. Reading all of Raffles' post:
Still I cannot see how the context of that post or of the preceding two posts in the thread change the meaning any. BMI gold status is still valid. BMI is still in business. Lifetime gold status is still listed in the DC T&C's. The only thing that has changed is that BMI is no longer a member of *A, and it looks like BMI will go away in the future, though AFAIK, no firm date has yet been set. So BMI and any BMI gold status likely have a very limited life, but by no means is it now over.
Still I cannot see how the context of that post or of the preceding two posts in the thread change the meaning any. BMI gold status is still valid. BMI is still in business. Lifetime gold status is still listed in the DC T&C's. The only thing that has changed is that BMI is no longer a member of *A, and it looks like BMI will go away in the future, though AFAIK, no firm date has yet been set. So BMI and any BMI gold status likely have a very limited life, but by no means is it now over.
There is a timetable for the departure of bmi - it will be gone by the winter timetable. Planes are being re-painted and changed to BA spec (A319s, then A320s and A321s) routes moved to BA etc - the process is well under way for the closing of flight operations.
There is no official closing date for Diamond Club, but that is mainly due to it staying open to administer the last days of limited earning and burning in the program. Once bmi ops end, it will be a shell of a program and the concensus from those with a bit of knowledge either at bmi or BA is that the program will be wound down in the Autumn. A shell of it may remain open to administer the last months of booked redemptions, but with earning and burning options continuing to be cut, very little functionality is expected to be there come the end of the year.
Jul 2, 2012, 4:20 am
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There is a tiny chance, I suppose, that BMI Regional may take on Diamond Club as its reward programme and an even smaller chance they may give you lifetime gold. You would therefore have no complaints - the only remaining entity with BMI in its name would have given you Gold status. It just wouldn't be much use unless you fly around the regions in jungle jets.