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travelwithross May 8, 2011 11:17 am

LH Offering status match
 
Not sure if anyone as seen this:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...e-members.html

Basically, LH are offering a status match to those with KL/AF Gold/Platinum to M&M Senator (*G) until February 2013. For those of us that might have taken advantage of the recent KL/AF Flying Blue Promotion for status match to the KL/AF Flying Blue Program, this is an excellent opportunity.

Terms state you have to take a 2 segment flight to get the card.

Same applies to those with KL/AF Silver, they will be matched to M&M Frequent Traveller (*S) until February 2013.

Worth doing if you can't renew gold this year... though, i'm not sure what will happen if DC folds into M&M by then and you have *G with both... :p

OttoMH May 9, 2011 9:02 am

Awesome find!

My "straight-sets-to-blue" with DiamondClub is complete :'( so now I can do it all again with Miles & More.

Anyone actually been able to book any of the £89 returns on the Lufthansa site? Even + a cheap hotel I'm going to do this as a MR.

Jetstreamer May 9, 2011 9:47 am

If only FB would send me my card! Your qualifying flight can be with any M&M airline so I'll probably just do a cheap day return to GVA with LX for £99.

Raffles May 9, 2011 10:48 am


Originally Posted by Jetstreamer (Post 16353644)
If only FB would send me my card! Your qualifying flight can be with any M&M airline so I'll probably just do a cheap day return to GVA with LX for £99.

Print it from the website

AJO May 9, 2011 11:29 am

Good stuff! My "status match path" is becoming quite interesting :D:

BD Gold -> BA Gold -> Flying Poo Platinum -> LH SEN
and somewhere during the above "path" BD Silver -> LH FTL

So far the only time (after BD Gold) where I actually had to do something was the requalification for BA Gold...

Now, who else will match BA Gold, FB Plat or LH SEN? :cool:

BelperFlyer May 9, 2011 11:35 am

Matching
 
I have FB Platinum following their match offer to BD *G . I have also FTL with M&M

Can I use my new found FB status to get a match to SEN ?

thanks all

matt in france May 9, 2011 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by BelperFlyer (Post 16354420)
I have FB Platinum following their match offer to BD *G . I have also FTL with M&M

Can I use my new found FB status to get a match to SEN ?

thanks all

yes, as long as you don't already have the corresponding M&M Status, you can take advantage of this offer as an FB Elite member to upgrade your M&M status.

NewbieRunner May 9, 2011 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by BelperFlyer (Post 16354420)
I have FB Platinum following their match offer to BD *G . I have also FTL with M&M

Can I use my new found FB status to get a match to SEN ?

You'll have a choice of your BD *G or M&M SEN card when entering a *G lounge, take advantage of a SEN companion award if you have enough M&M miles and make your *G status last a little longer. You'll also have a chance to renew your BD *G in 2011 and M&M SEN in 2012! ;)

Never Gold Dave May 9, 2011 3:17 pm

Do any of you clever guys know whether you could use a Swiss ticket on the MAN-GVA route that's now a BMI route to use as the qualifying flights?
Like others I'm having some interesting times. Was DC Gold (in my own right), status matched to FB Gold and now could get LH SEN which will give extra time as a *A Gold. Just a shame that I've not had any opportunity for a BA match as flying more often with them at the moment. Will just have to get silver the old fashioned way!

matt in france May 9, 2011 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by Never Gold Dave (Post 16356090)
Do any of you clever guys know whether you could use a Swiss ticket on the MAN-GVA route that's now a BMI route to use as the qualifying flights?
Like others I'm having some interesting times. Was DC Gold (in my own right), status matched to FB Gold and now could get LH SEN which will give extra time as a *A Gold. Just a shame that I've not had any opportunity for a BA match as flying more often with them at the moment. Will just have to get silver the old fashioned way!

LX is fully integrated in M&M, so a return trip on LX Metal will indeed qualify you as a SEN.

travelwithross May 9, 2011 4:28 pm


Originally Posted by matt in france (Post 16356287)
LX is fully integrated in M&M, so a return trip on LX Metal will indeed qualify you as a SEN.

Hold your horses. There is a LX codeshare Flight from MAN-GVA operated by BD on BD metal. I think that's what matt in france is asking. I don't think it would count, because its a codeshare on BD metal.

malcolmcampbell May 9, 2011 9:08 pm

I am in two minds about this one - plan to requalify as BD gold this autumn which I presume will end up as LH SEN so not quite sure if there is any point. Also I would presumably have to credit my miles for the 2 relevant legs to miles and less which would be a bit of a waste - so is there any advantage in taking up the offer?

matt in france May 9, 2011 11:22 pm


Originally Posted by rxfleming (Post 16356515)
Hold your horses. There is a LX codeshare Flight from MAN-GVA operated by BD on BD metal. I think that's what matt in france is asking. I don't think it would count, because its a codeshare on BD metal.

I thought it was only MAN-BSL that was BD operated on behalf of LX? In that case, I doubt BD metal will count - I flew BSL-LHR last month (ticket bought on swiss.com with LX codeshare flughtnumber), and it still hasn't posted on M&M - the return flight on LX via Zurich posted 2 days after travelling. I claimed the mileage manually yesterday (using the LX Flight number), and my statement now reads "23/04/11 Basle-Heathrow Awaiting verification by partner LX4420/BD160".
So it looks like the M&M system recognises it as a BD operated Flight. Having said that, M&M have a double miles promo on Swiss' new BSL-LHR and MAN routes... So who knows?

NewbieRunner May 10, 2011 4:00 am


Originally Posted by malcolmcampbell (Post 16357892)
I am in two minds about this one - plan to requalify as BD gold this autumn which I presume will end up as LH SEN so not quite sure if there is any point. Also I would presumably have to credit my miles for the 2 relevant legs to miles and less which would be a bit of a waste - so is there any advantage in taking up the offer?

Probably no if you are BD *G already, unless you have M&M miles to burn for a companion award or F awards on the A380.


Originally Posted by matt in france (Post 16358446)
M&M have a double miles promo on Swiss' new BSL-LHR and MAN routes... So who knows?

The fact M&M is offering double miles for BSL-LHR and BSL-MAN seems to suggest that these flights are counted as LX flights operated by BD?

Kevincm May 10, 2011 6:01 am

I decided against the LH operated by BD flights as I really don't want to waste £90 on a non valid ticket.

So instead, I'm spending £128.80 with Swiss on a four sectors of flights, with two Swiss Metal Guarenteed segements.

All I have to do is make my 45 minute connection at BCN....

Jetstreamer May 10, 2011 6:22 am


Originally Posted by Raffles (Post 16354056)
Print it from the website

Will they accept a website print? Just did it and it looks like anyone could forge that (in fact it looks like it has been forged!)

surturminn May 10, 2011 6:44 am


Originally Posted by Jetstreamer (Post 16359359)
Will they accept a website print? Just did it and it looks like anyone could forge that (in fact it looks like it has been forged!)

Hope so that's what I used on Friday..........

BelperFlyer May 11, 2011 1:25 am

FB Cards
 
ditto just copied the website version of the card and it does look dodgy but let's see what happens

mahajanvikas May 11, 2011 2:34 am

Same here. Didn't receive my physical card in post, so printed the temporary one off the website. Hope they accept that.

Has anybody had success in getting matched using such method ?
Received an email from M&M immediately on registering but don't know if they will accept the printout even if I take the required flight ?

surturminn May 11, 2011 3:09 am

FB Plat
 

Originally Posted by BelperFlyer (Post 16365116)
ditto just copied the website version of the card and it does look dodgy but let's see what happens

How did you manage a match to FB plat - or was that earned but not got the card....(I got FB Gold) from BD*G? or is there another FFP not on your profile?

OttoMH May 11, 2011 2:02 pm

Paging Kevincm.. how did you get the mega cheapy?

I am looking from MAN ideally because I can drive there. Trying to minimize the cash exposure :D

ZRH is coming in about £140 but that requires an overnight stay which is minimum £60

I can see a same day turn from LON for about £136 but this includes a sector by 'Swiss European' - does that count as Miles and More metal?

Any assistance greatly received!

BelperFlyer May 11, 2011 2:04 pm

OOPS
 
Well spotted profile corrected thank you

OttoMH May 11, 2011 2:36 pm

162 same day turn to BCN with 3 different 40min connections... this sounds like the sort of thing only a FlyerTalker would consider!! :D

Edit: Booked a slightly more sensible MAN-ZRH-MXP-ZRH-MAN with longer connections. £133 all-in, same day turn on a Saturday. ZRH-MXP is operated by Helvetic but the MAN-ZRH are Swiss Metal.

MAN-ZRH-BCN-ZRH-MAN is still available, same day Saturday turns £160ish all-in. 4 Swiss sectors IIRC.

matt in france May 11, 2011 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by OttoMH (Post 16368475)
I can see a same day turn from LON for about £136 but this includes a sector by 'Swiss European' - does that count as Miles and More metal?

Yes, it does - it's the equivalent of a bmi regional Flight, which to all extents and purposes is an LX Flight (the non-Airbusses in the Fleet - ie the Avro RJs- are operated by Swiss European as the Crew are on cheaper Contracts than the Mainline Crews.

paulieuk May 12, 2011 6:38 am

The status match T&Cs say:
This offer is not valid for members who currently hold the appropriate status in Miles & More and who have obtained Frequent Traveller or Senator status through a similar promotion.
Does the 'and who have obtained status through a similar promotion' mean that I would be denied having gained but then lost LH*S some years ago when the Star Alliance did the great UK status match promotion?

Raffles May 12, 2011 7:22 am


Originally Posted by paulieuk (Post 16372114)
The status match T&Cs say:
This offer is not valid for members who currently hold the appropriate status in Miles & More and who have obtained Frequent Traveller or Senator status through a similar promotion.
Does the 'and who have obtained status through a similar promotion' mean that I would be denied having gained but then lost LH*S some years ago when the Star Alliance did the great UK status match promotion?

I am guessing not and that this wording only applies to people who CURRENTLY have status which they got through a status match. I am in the same boat as you but I have applied anyway.

Frustratingly, I don't see how you can ever know for sure, though. When you submit the online form, you immediately get an email saying 'thanks, take your flight, you'll be matched'. Does a human really look at your account in detail, or even the jpeg you send in? I doubt it.

(Remember the Priority Club promotion last year where you sent in your Hilton account balance and they matched it, up to 20k. People who made wild claims and 'forgot' to attach the jpeg still got the points.)

cgnSenator May 12, 2011 7:32 am


Originally Posted by Raffles (Post 16372293)
I am guessing not and that this wording only applies to people who CURRENTLY have status which they got through a status match. I am in the same boat as you but I have applied anyway.

Frustratingly, I don't see how you can ever know for sure, though. When you submit the online form, you immediately get an email saying 'thanks, take your flight, you'll be matched'. Does a human really look at your account in detail, or even the jpeg you send in? I doubt it.

(Remember the Priority Club promotion last year where you sent in your Hilton account balance and they matched it, up to 20k. People who made wild claims and 'forgot' to attach the jpeg still got the points.)

They do look at the account. A friend already had his flights and called to ask when they will match him. The lady said that it will take some days because now they have to verify the match.

NewbieRunner May 12, 2011 7:38 am


Originally Posted by Raffles (Post 16372293)
When you submit the online form, you immediately get an email saying 'thanks, take your flight, you'll be matched'. Does a human really look at your account in detail, or even the jpeg you send in? I doubt it.

They probably do. In the M&M forum someone reported calling M&M in the UK and being told it would take 6-8 weeks for the status to update. How else can they take that long unless they scrutinise all the images with the utmost care? :rolleyes::D

NoY May 12, 2011 8:39 am


Originally Posted by NewbieRunner (Post 16372396)
They probably do. In the M&M forum someone reported calling M&M in the UK and being told it would take 6-8 weeks for the status to update. How else can they take that long unless they scrutinise all the images with the utmost care? :rolleyes::D

True, but someone else said that their on-line status was upgraded to SEN just 3 days after their qualifying flight. So, who knows!?

lhr baby May 13, 2011 1:15 pm

What would M&M Frequent Traveller get me given that I'm already BD*G and I intend to continue to accrue in BD*G to get "platinum" bonus points? I'm two segments away from KLM Silver (which in itself is worthless). Please don't interpret this as a sarcastic question - I'd genuinely like to know.

Raffles May 13, 2011 1:29 pm


Originally Posted by lhr baby (Post 16380662)
What would M&M Frequent Traveller get me given that I'm already BD*G and I intend to continue to accrue in BD*G to get "platinum" bonus points? I'm two segments away from KLM Silver (which in itself is worthless). Please don't interpret this as a sarcastic question - I'd genuinely like to know.

Your M&M miles will not expire whilst you are M&M FTL - non-status pax lose their miles after 36 months unless they hold and use a M&M credit card.

Not sure what else!

lorkers May 14, 2011 7:28 am

Thanks for a great find on this one.

I've sent in a screenshot of the the FlyingBlue status - as many have - and got the Email.

One thing we don't know for sure is... will an OS codeshare on BD or TK metal count as the flights required? The T&C don'r rule out codeshares, but I'm reluctant to risk it.

But my next flights are on an ultra cheap 330 quid flight to IST via VIE in C. But - I'm on BD metal to VIE, and TK to IST, as it's the only way to make a decent connection.

Already booked... I need this flight as its my only way of hooking up with the bargains TK are offering to SYD on TK and QF... but just wondered if I can safely use the VIE jaunt as the two LH group flights?

Has anyone successfull got the status through a LH codeshare on BD metal yet, or does it really need to be LH group plane?

FlyingDentist May 15, 2011 3:01 am


Originally Posted by lorkers (Post 16384084)
I've sent in a screenshot of the the FlyingBlue status - as many have - and got the Email.

When you say you "got the email" do you mean that LH have accepted the screenshot?

I can't find where you can print off a temporary FH Gold card (no problem when I was Ivory before it was matched ) - can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks!

thirdpassport May 15, 2011 10:44 am


Originally Posted by FlyingDentist (Post 16388214)
When you say you "got the email" do you mean that LH have accepted the screenshot?

I can't find where you can print off a temporary FH Gold card (no problem when I was Ivory before it was matched ) - can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks!

It took me ages to find it too. I logged into klmuk.com, then clicked on "Flying Blue" at the top of the screen, then "Lost your Flying Blue card?", then "Print a copy of your card". The link to that page is https://www.klm.com/travel/gb_en/fly..._print_app.htm

HTH,
Steve

FlyingDentist May 15, 2011 11:34 am

Fantastic! ^

Thanks Steve

lorkers May 15, 2011 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by steveuk (Post 16389591)
It took me ages to find it too. I logged into klmuk.com, then clicked on "Flying Blue" at the top of the screen, then "Lost your Flying Blue card?", then "Print a copy of your card". The link to that page is https://www.klm.com/travel/gb_en/fly..._print_app.htm

HTH,
Steve

Yup, that's the one. Incidentally, from here you can also request a 'real' KLM card, which I'd done too - but I'm not holding my breath for it to turn up in the post.

Just send in a screenshot of the lost card to LH, and within minutes of sending it in, there's what seems like an automated response Email reading:


We have received your application to status match. After only one flight with a Miles & More airline partner, you will qualify automatically for the Miles & More status which is equivalent to the one you currently hold with Flying Blue. We will send you your personal Miles & More status card after your flight*.

*After only one booked flight (two segments) taken before 31 July 2011 with Adria Airways, Air Dolomiti, Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines, Croatia Airlines, LOT, Lufthansa, Luxair or SWISS, you will receive your gold or silver Miles & More card. This card is valid until February 2013. You will receive your Miles & More status card by post approximately four weeks after your flight.
But the language is a bit ambiguous. I would have assumed it would say 'operated by' and then it's clear... but 'taken with'? I'm reluctant to gamble this on a codeshare, however as we've noted before, sometimes LH does regard a BD codeshare as the real thing...

brenig May 16, 2011 5:01 am

Got the same automated email.

Kevincm May 17, 2011 3:42 am


Originally Posted by OttoMH (Post 16368475)
Paging Kevincm.. how did you get the mega cheapy?

I am looking from MAN ideally because I can drive there. Trying to minimize the cash exposure :D

ZRH is coming in about £140 but that requires an overnight stay which is minimum £60

I can see a same day turn from LON for about £136 but this includes a sector by 'Swiss European' - does that count as Miles and More metal?

Any assistance greatly received!

Sorry OttoMH. I've dropped the ball recently. It was in a recent Swiss sale (that's ended). I've seen Ibiza for £158 though... it could be more palatable than £140 to ZRH.... http://booking.swiss.com/web/bba.htm?i=0v3&g=2.

My trip is BHX-ZRH (Forced Overnight) - ZRH-BCN-ZRH-5 hour stopover - BHX. I briefly considered single-ticketing BHX-Some LH destination - and back, but as well as being creative, I was also being lazy.

On the plus side, I get to rack up a few more Priority Club points though. Shame the English for "Hotel" in Zurich is "Open wallet and say ARGH"...

NewbieRunner May 17, 2011 6:54 am

In case you have not noticed it, this reply from M&M about LX flights operated by BD has been posted in the M&M forum.


Please understand that flights in Economy, Business or First Class – taken between 27 April and 31 July 2011 which are operated by Lufthansa, Adria Airways, Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines, Croatia Airlines, LOT Polish Airlines, Luxair or SWISS count torwards this promotion. Unfortunately, SWISS flights operated by British Midland cannot be taken into consideration for the Flying Blue status match offer. We hope this explanation clarifies the matter for you.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16399570-post141.html

hugolover May 17, 2011 7:13 am


Originally Posted by NewbieRunner (Post 16400418)
In case you have not noticed it, this reply from M&M about LX flights operated by BD has been posted in the M&M forum.



http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16399570-post141.html

Fair enough, but there aren't any BD flights for LX anymore. GVA went back to LX and BSL is a wholly operated BD flight.


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