Avis is screwing customers on this <75 miles fuel charge
#16
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bellingham/Gainesville
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This has been discussed regularly here. Are you part of the Avis Preferred service? If so, they sent you an email when this change went into effect ~2 years ago.
The reason they did this is because in most cars, if the tank is totally full, you can drive 30-60 miles & still have the gauge show 8/8, screwing the next person who thinks the tank is really full.
The reason they did this is because in most cars, if the tank is totally full, you can drive 30-60 miles & still have the gauge show 8/8, screwing the next person who thinks the tank is really full.
#17
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bellingham/Gainesville
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I've gone as far as getting documentation for fill-ups. Avis station managers lie through their teeth. Good luck on that one.
#18
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MHT, CHS
Programs: DL DM, Hilton Dia, Avis Pres Club
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I often rent less than 75 miles, and take advantage of the convenience of the program and not fill up.
However, MOB being independant, does not participate in the program, and it cost be about $20.00 for 60 miles of driving. I learned the expensive way.
But last winter I had a car (caddi CTS) for 5 days in SYR and used 3/4 of a tank driving 72 miles and was charges only $10.50. I used the remote start 3 times a day to warm up the car. So in 10 years of renting every day I have 'beaten' Avis at lease once on their rules.
However, MOB being independant, does not participate in the program, and it cost be about $20.00 for 60 miles of driving. I learned the expensive way.
But last winter I had a car (caddi CTS) for 5 days in SYR and used 3/4 of a tank driving 72 miles and was charges only $10.50. I used the remote start 3 times a day to warm up the car. So in 10 years of renting every day I have 'beaten' Avis at lease once on their rules.
#19
Moderator: Avis and Rental Cars
Join Date: Oct 2006
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But last winter I had a car (caddi CTS) for 5 days in SYR and used 3/4 of a tank driving 72 miles and was charges only $10.50. I used the remote start 3 times a day to warm up the car. So in 10 years of renting every day I have 'beaten' Avis at lease once on their rules.
#20
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I never pay this fee but I also make sure the tank is full. I expect a partially drained tank at every pickup which is why I look at overall cost (total rental plus gas I pay for, even if it includes an extra $5 from previously underfilled tank) as to whether I have a good deal.
If I get a cheap rate, I am less likely to be worried about a few bucks here or there that the last driver failed to fill up.
One way or the other the rental company will make money from us (as they should). Look at the bigger picture.
If I get a cheap rate, I am less likely to be worried about a few bucks here or there that the last driver failed to fill up.
One way or the other the rental company will make money from us (as they should). Look at the bigger picture.
#21
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
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I rented a car in LAS and drove to my hotel and back (max 10 miles). Only reason I did this was I had 3 X $10 coupons that were expiring. The rental cost me around $10 after coupons which I figured would be a lot less than 2 cab rides (plus I earned 500 Aeroplan miles ). I put less than $2 of gas in the car, but I got a receipt, and they did ask to see it. So it all worked out.
OP, if you paid for the gas using your credit card (and who doesn't especially here on FT!), just send in your credit card statement, and I'm sure you'll get a refund.
Also, it does cost Avis when the car is not full. This has happened to me quite a few times, and they usually end up giving me a $20 credit on the rental.
OP, if you paid for the gas using your credit card (and who doesn't especially here on FT!), just send in your credit card statement, and I'm sure you'll get a refund.
Also, it does cost Avis when the car is not full. This has happened to me quite a few times, and they usually end up giving me a $20 credit on the rental.
#22
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Madrid spain
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Gold, SPG PLT
Posts: 574
Deceiptive Practice at San Diego Airport
When I returned the car at SAN, the agent never asked me for receipt and went ahead to charge me for the fee. I also noticed the rate I initially booked was changed. I went to the counter and asked the agent to remove the fuel fee and adjust the rate.
According to the agent (Angela), "someone" changed my rate and it is the customer's duty to present the receipt when returning the vehicle for avoid being charged. For me, this is just totally deceiptive.
According to the agent (Angela), "someone" changed my rate and it is the customer's duty to present the receipt when returning the vehicle for avoid being charged. For me, this is just totally deceiptive.
#23
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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When I returned the car at SAN, the agent never asked me for receipt and went ahead to charge me for the fee. I also noticed the rate I initially booked was changed. I went to the counter and asked the agent to remove the fuel fee and adjust the rate.
According to the agent (Angela), "someone" changed my rate and it is the customer's duty to present the receipt when returning the vehicle for avoid being charged. For me, this is just totally deceiptive.
According to the agent (Angela), "someone" changed my rate and it is the customer's duty to present the receipt when returning the vehicle for avoid being charged. For me, this is just totally deceiptive.
However, the rate changing is crap! They can trace when/where it was changed and I'd ask them to look into who this 'someone' is. I once got to CLE & they said my reservation was canceled and they didn't have any cars left. Basically, they wouldn't do anything for me. I called the 800# and had them look: It was the CLE station that canceled my reservation several hours before! I went to hand over the phone to the agent, but she ran to get the manager. Somehow, they had a CTS ready for me within a few seconds! Upon questioning the manager, he couldn't say why the reservation was canceled, but apologized. Makes one wonder....
#24
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 226
I was in LAS two weeks ago, I picked up at the Preferred desk whereas I had a few friends wait in the long line for their rental.
All of us received stickers (post-its) on our rental receipts with the policy, and warning us that if we driving less than 75 miles, we need to show the receipt upon return.
I didn't see this last time I rented, so I assume it might be new, but at least they seem to be making an effort to let people know (if they roll it out to all their locations).
All of us received stickers (post-its) on our rental receipts with the policy, and warning us that if we driving less than 75 miles, we need to show the receipt upon return.
I didn't see this last time I rented, so I assume it might be new, but at least they seem to be making an effort to let people know (if they roll it out to all their locations).
#25
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SYR
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The only places I havent had the sticker is when the print a traditional contract instead of the preferred card.
But, as other posters have mentioned, there are signs galore at the rental desk stating the policy...
#26
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: PVD
Posts: 43
They tried harder... to screw me
I had the misfortune of winning an Avis rental from Priceline. When picking up the car in LAS, the agent did say to keep my gas receipt, but didn't say why. When I returned the car, I presented my gas receipt the the agent. He said ok, and then said I had a some mandatory charge of 10.50.
Since all my charges and fees were supposed to be prepaid, I went to the service desk to complain. I had to present my receipt again to get the gas charge removed.
To add insult to injury, my car was not topped off completely when I picked it up.
In LAS, I'll stick with Dollar....
Since all my charges and fees were supposed to be prepaid, I went to the service desk to complain. I had to present my receipt again to get the gas charge removed.
To add insult to injury, my car was not topped off completely when I picked it up.
In LAS, I'll stick with Dollar....
#28
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: dfw
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But about half the time now when I pick up a car, it is already a hair below F. I almost always suck it up since it normally well above a 7/8 line. But I do a slow burn since I picture the previous renter getting stuck with a double-charge for burning like $5 of gas and I get stuck paying for the gas.
Another 1/4 of my rentals the needle dives sharply from F as I drive away. I make a point of filling the car at what I expect to be the half way mark of the rental. No shocker, I always "use" 1 or 2 more gallons on the outbound than on my return.
This is all new since the program started, I really thing the big rip-off is they charge low mileage renters that fee, yet they don't top the car off unless it is below something like 15/16 full.
#30
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Washington DC USA
Posts: 2,571
If you're open to paying $21 for 90 miles worth of gas, then just return the car without refueling and you'll probably get charged about that much on the per-mile/per-gallon plan. Maybe even less depending on the car and tank capacity.