Jul 1, 2015, 8:19 am
Last edit by: 4aks
Links to new program info:
http://www.avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
https://www.avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
Calendar year 2015 rentals count towards status (12 rentals = preferred plus; 25 rentals = PC )
Rentals begun July 1st earn points
Redemption of points is unknown and dynamic
Data points:
July 2015 - 3 day Minivan rental, adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 316 points. Adding Sirius (6.99/day) was 200 points
July 2015 - 4 day full size mid week - adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 332 points
July 2015 - 1 day (full size?) in Seattle - 2400 points for one free day
Aug 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points (vs $18 base cost)
Sep 2015 - Weekday, Boston Back Bay, 1d6h rental - 4600 points (vs. $85 full size)
Oct 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points / jumped to 1330 points all month, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend day ORD - 950 points
Nov 2015 - Weekend day IAH - 1800 points (1 day)
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 950 pts, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 1330 pts, many vehicle types (points devalued the closer to the rental period)
http://www.avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
https://www.avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
Calendar year 2015 rentals count towards status (12 rentals = preferred plus; 25 rentals = PC )
Rentals begun July 1st earn points
Redemption of points is unknown and dynamic
Data points:
July 2015 - 3 day Minivan rental, adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 316 points. Adding Sirius (6.99/day) was 200 points
July 2015 - 4 day full size mid week - adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 332 points
July 2015 - 1 day (full size?) in Seattle - 2400 points for one free day
Aug 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points (vs $18 base cost)
Sep 2015 - Weekday, Boston Back Bay, 1d6h rental - 4600 points (vs. $85 full size)
Oct 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points / jumped to 1330 points all month, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend day ORD - 950 points
Nov 2015 - Weekend day IAH - 1800 points (1 day)
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 950 pts, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 1330 pts, many vehicle types (points devalued the closer to the rental period)
Changes to Avis First Program
Jun 29, 2015, 6:25 am
#121
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,131
I'm assuming it's going to be try to hit these metrics by end of CY2015, and you'll have status through 2016
Maybe they'll have a dialed-down or accelerator offer for the remainder of 2015
I just started using Avis, but have 8r/28d in June
Jun 29, 2015, 7:47 am
#122
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: DFW
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, Admirals Club, Global Entry
Posts: 1,142
The "downgrade" aspect of all this doesn't sound quite right since the natural expectation would be to have status continue -- for this year, anyway. I've never heard of any status anywhere for anyone getting downgraded mid-year for any reason . . . ever. And old Avis First = new Avis Preferred Plus.
My new status comes from a World Elite MC, and so there may be a contractual wrinkle or two thrown in there as well.
I guess we'll see for sure very shortly, one way or the other.
My new status comes from a World Elite MC, and so there may be a contractual wrinkle or two thrown in there as well.
I guess we'll see for sure very shortly, one way or the other.
Jun 29, 2015, 7:48 am
#123
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAX/BOS/HKG/AMS/SFO...hmm, I need a life.
Programs: United1K, AA ExPlAAt, DL MM/Gold, Hilton Diamond, Avis First
Posts: 13,316
I just called Avis to ask, was transferred to the PC desk. They confirmed the details mentioned above, and the rental count and spend count starts as of July 1st, no credit for YTD spend/rentals
The agent said the website will report what your count is, everyone starts at Preferred, then at 12r/$5k will be auto-elevated to Preferred Plus, and at 25r/$7k will be auto-elevated to President's Club
I have a rental beginning tomorrow, returning Thurs July 2nd, unclear if that'll be counted
The agent said the website will report what your count is, everyone starts at Preferred, then at 12r/$5k will be auto-elevated to Preferred Plus, and at 25r/$7k will be auto-elevated to President's Club
I have a rental beginning tomorrow, returning Thurs July 2nd, unclear if that'll be counted
Jun 29, 2015, 12:29 pm
#124
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,131
This is not correct. I called the First Desk and was told that any First members will automatically migrate to Preferred Plus. The clock for re-qualifying does reset on 7/1 but that is actually immaterial unless you had a one time big first 2 quarters and even then you will keep the status until it would have ran out anyway.
Jun 29, 2015, 2:50 pm
#125
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: XNA, TUL
Programs: Avis First, AA plebian :(
Posts: 196
I can confirm that First did change to Preferred Plus. I had to exchange the Fusion Titanium today since it was overdue for an oil change and its registration expires tomorrow and the reprinted contract shows me as "PREF PLUS/POINTS". Interestingly, the original contract on Sunday just showed Preferred rather than the First it has been printing up to last week.
It's still annoying that none of my earlier rentals this year count towards PC, but at least it's not a downgrade! (The 28K '14 Camry is more annoying than it being November instead of August before I hit PC)
It's still annoying that none of my earlier rentals this year count towards PC, but at least it's not a downgrade! (The 28K '14 Camry is more annoying than it being November instead of August before I hit PC)
Jun 29, 2015, 3:17 pm
#126
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAX/BOS/HKG/AMS/SFO...hmm, I need a life.
Programs: United1K, AA ExPlAAt, DL MM/Gold, Hilton Diamond, Avis First
Posts: 13,316
I can confirm that First did change to Preferred Plus. I had to exchange the Fusion Titanium today since it was overdue for an oil change and its registration expires tomorrow and the reprinted contract shows me as "PREF PLUS/POINTS". Interestingly, the original contract on Sunday just showed Preferred rather than the First it has been printing up to last week.
It's still annoying that none of my earlier rentals this year count towards PC, but at least it's not a downgrade! (The 28K '14 Camry is more annoying than it being November instead of August before I hit PC)
It's still annoying that none of my earlier rentals this year count towards PC, but at least it's not a downgrade! (The 28K '14 Camry is more annoying than it being November instead of August before I hit PC)
Jun 29, 2015, 3:54 pm
#127
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: DFW
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, Admirals Club, Global Entry
Posts: 1,142
Well, that was fast. As of some time earlier this afternoon, I'm now officially "Avis Preferred Plus." Hurray?
Jun 29, 2015, 4:01 pm
#128
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: SJC
Programs: Spire Amb IHG, HH Gold, TR Diamond, Mlife Plat, National Exec, Avis Pref Plus
Posts: 144
I can confirm my account went from First to Preferred Plus. That being said, after using Alamo, Enterprise, and National (having National Executive status), I don't know why anyone rents with Hertz or Avis. Terrible cars and terrible prices...
Jun 29, 2015, 5:05 pm
#129
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: XNA, TUL
Programs: Avis First, AA plebian :(
Posts: 196
If National weren't usually 50% more expensive I'd give them a shot.
Jun 29, 2015, 5:35 pm
#130
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,974
Mine says Avis Preferred Plus too but no where I can find the explanation of what that means (other than the Beta site someone posted up the thread). I guess they still have about a day to provide us the details 
Jun 30, 2015, 8:10 am
#131
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Seattle
Programs: SPG P100, DL PM
Posts: 11
Found this FAQ from googling Avis First changes:
http://www.avis.com/car-rental/conte...t-US_en-048467
Not a great deal more detail than has already been discussed but it does confirm all Avis First migrates to Avis Preferred Plus:
http://www.avis.com/car-rental/conte...t-US_en-048467
Not a great deal more detail than has already been discussed but it does confirm all Avis First migrates to Avis Preferred Plus:
Will I be automatically converted to the new Avis Preferred Plus tier so I can continue to receive free upgrades when available?
All Avis First members will be automatically converted to the new Avis Preferred Plus tier unless notified otherwise
All Avis First members will be automatically converted to the new Avis Preferred Plus tier unless notified otherwise
Jun 30, 2015, 9:31 am
#132
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: XNA, TUL
Programs: Avis First, AA plebian :(
Posts: 196
Hmm, it seems the T&C changed (per the Google cache). Instead of getting PC after 25 rentals/$7000 in spend, you remain Preferred Plus, but do get the increased points earning.
Jun 30, 2015, 4:21 pm
#133
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: SEA town
Programs: Alaska LTG, HHonors-Gld, IHG-Dia, LT MR Ti
Posts: 627
Anyone find out what it takes to cash-in these points?
Is there a chart anywhere with redemption levels?
Sounds like it's based off spend.
Is there a chart anywhere with redemption levels?
Sounds like it's based off spend.
Jul 1, 2015, 8:30 am
#134
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,131
Looks like they need customers to go hit the 'opt in' botton and agree to the terms of service
Jul 1, 2015, 10:53 am
#135
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: DFW
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, Admirals Club, Global Entry
Posts: 1,142
I just opted in, which may have been a mistake since I now have to rent w/in 3 months to get the 250 extra points they're offering.
Preferred Plus members get 1.25 points per dollar spent on rentals. Even so, I still don't see an award chart anywhere. The whole setup seems rather opaque -- unless I'm just missing something.
Preferred Plus members get 1.25 points per dollar spent on rentals. Even so, I still don't see an award chart anywhere. The whole setup seems rather opaque -- unless I'm just missing something.