Jul 1, 2015, 8:19 am
Last edit by: 4aks
Links to new program info:
http://www.avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
https://www.avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
Calendar year 2015 rentals count towards status (12 rentals = preferred plus; 25 rentals = PC )
Rentals begun July 1st earn points
Redemption of points is unknown and dynamic
Data points:
July 2015 - 3 day Minivan rental, adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 316 points. Adding Sirius (6.99/day) was 200 points
July 2015 - 4 day full size mid week - adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 332 points
July 2015 - 1 day (full size?) in Seattle - 2400 points for one free day
Aug 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points (vs $18 base cost)
Sep 2015 - Weekday, Boston Back Bay, 1d6h rental - 4600 points (vs. $85 full size)
Oct 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points / jumped to 1330 points all month, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend day ORD - 950 points
Nov 2015 - Weekend day IAH - 1800 points (1 day)
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 950 pts, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 1330 pts, many vehicle types (points devalued the closer to the rental period)
http://www.avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
https://www.avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
Calendar year 2015 rentals count towards status (12 rentals = preferred plus; 25 rentals = PC )
Rentals begun July 1st earn points
Redemption of points is unknown and dynamic
Data points:
July 2015 - 3 day Minivan rental, adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 316 points. Adding Sirius (6.99/day) was 200 points
July 2015 - 4 day full size mid week - adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 332 points
July 2015 - 1 day (full size?) in Seattle - 2400 points for one free day
Aug 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points (vs $18 base cost)
Sep 2015 - Weekday, Boston Back Bay, 1d6h rental - 4600 points (vs. $85 full size)
Oct 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points / jumped to 1330 points all month, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend day ORD - 950 points
Nov 2015 - Weekend day IAH - 1800 points (1 day)
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 950 pts, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 1330 pts, many vehicle types (points devalued the closer to the rental period)
Changes to Avis First Program
Jun 5, 2015 | 4:57 pm
#106
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLT
Programs: Marriott Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 1,077
Here is the new Avis preferred structure.
Avis Preferred :
1 point per rental $ spent, 2 points per accessory $ spent.
Avis Preferred Plus (level attained after 12 rentals or 5000$ spent) :
1.25 points per rental $ spent, 2.5 points per accessory $ spent.
Avis President's Club (level attained after 25 rentals or 7000$ spent) :
1.5 point per rental $ spent, 3 points per accessory $ spent.
https://uat.avis.com/car-rental/cont...isPref-Points#
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Finally, President's Club is attainable without actually being a President of a big company (or via other memberships) !
I'm hoping that Avis will allow status matching, as I'm stuck at Avis First while being a National Executive Elite member (after my 100 or so rental days this year).
Avis Preferred :
1 point per rental $ spent, 2 points per accessory $ spent.
Avis Preferred Plus (level attained after 12 rentals or 5000$ spent) :
1.25 points per rental $ spent, 2.5 points per accessory $ spent.
Avis President's Club (level attained after 25 rentals or 7000$ spent) :
1.5 point per rental $ spent, 3 points per accessory $ spent.
https://uat.avis.com/car-rental/cont...isPref-Points#
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Finally, President's Club is attainable without actually being a President of a big company (or via other memberships) !
I'm hoping that Avis will allow status matching, as I'm stuck at Avis First while being a National Executive Elite member (after my 100 or so rental days this year).
Qualifying Rentals: A qualifying rental for Service Level memberships and rewards is defined as a completed, paid rental at participating Avis worldwide locations that is checked out and checked in within the same calendar year ("Rental"). Credit will not be earned on rentals that are unpaid or "free" of time- and-mileage charges, rentals checked out at non-participating Avis locations, nor on rentals with the following discount rates,
rate codes, rate categories or profile types: Corporate or government accounts that do not allow employees to participate in loyalty and rewards programs; Avis central billing profiles that can be used by more than one person (i.e. authorized rep card, global electronic billing account); ACTO (Avis Company Travel Orders) voucher or for instances in which a third-party award was redeemed for the rental; and employee and friends-and-family rates for Avis or any affiliated company or licensee, travel industry, tour, wholesale and meeting and convention affiliations.
rate codes, rate categories or profile types: Corporate or government accounts that do not allow employees to participate in loyalty and rewards programs; Avis central billing profiles that can be used by more than one person (i.e. authorized rep card, global electronic billing account); ACTO (Avis Company Travel Orders) voucher or for instances in which a third-party award was redeemed for the rental; and employee and friends-and-family rates for Avis or any affiliated company or licensee, travel industry, tour, wholesale and meeting and convention affiliations.
Jun 5, 2015 | 5:27 pm
#107
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 11
I myself would gladly return to Avis if I was afforded better recognition than First/Preferred Plus (obtained over a period of two months last year), which means Avis would receive more revenue. As it is now, I made all of this year's rentals with National, because their Executive Elite tier allowed me to have some very nice cars/SUVs (Cadillac, Mustang Convertible/GT, etc.) at the intermediate rate, even though National has less locations from which to rent, thus a smaller number of cars in the regional fleet.
Jun 5, 2015 | 9:28 pm
#108
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 11,695
So, it seems that:
1 - the redemption pricing is dynamic (i.e. like redeeming DL miles or WN RR points?) as there is no fixed award chart?
2 - rentals that receive miles/hotel points still won't get points
3 - there is no "consecutive check in and check out counts as 1 rental" rule as the hotels count stays?
4 - 5-year rule is shelf-life for the points earbed (not to renew all the points), right? (Like what AC had.)
Any prediction on if they will promote to PC and award the tier bonus to those who already qualified based on last year's rentals?
Thanks.
1 - the redemption pricing is dynamic (i.e. like redeeming DL miles or WN RR points?) as there is no fixed award chart?
2 - rentals that receive miles/hotel points still won't get points
3 - there is no "consecutive check in and check out counts as 1 rental" rule as the hotels count stays?
4 - 5-year rule is shelf-life for the points earbed (not to renew all the points), right? (Like what AC had.)
Any prediction on if they will promote to PC and award the tier bonus to those who already qualified based on last year's rentals?
Thanks.
Last edited by username; Jun 5, 2015 at 9:41 pm
Jun 6, 2015 | 8:48 am
#109
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 26,111
no more "rental days" option for earning status!
Though not that (as someone who always earns partner miles/points and bonuses on same, on every single rental) I get that much out of Avis First. Avis First doesn't seem to upgrade me (from lower-class cars) much more than Avis Preferred (which still upgrades me quite often) does.
Last edited by sdsearch; Jun 9, 2015 at 2:17 am Reason: spelling
Jun 6, 2015 | 12:07 pm
#110
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: LHR
Programs: HH D,CC,SPG,AZ: Gold;BA Silver, TK Elite
Posts: 809
Hi guys,
I guess this change is only for US, right?
At the moment in Europe we are already on a rental-based model similar as what is described a few posts above:
Avis Preferred Plus:
reach that level with 5 rentals and €1000 spend
Avis Presidents club
Reach that level with 10 rentals and min €2000 spend
No Avis first that I know of.
The PDF doc for loyalty is here.
http://www.avis.co.uk/dms/avis/PDF/a...ts-summary.pdf
I guess this change is only for US, right?
At the moment in Europe we are already on a rental-based model similar as what is described a few posts above:
Avis Preferred Plus:
reach that level with 5 rentals and €1000 spend
Avis Presidents club
Reach that level with 10 rentals and min €2000 spend
No Avis first that I know of.
The PDF doc for loyalty is here.
http://www.avis.co.uk/dms/avis/PDF/a...ts-summary.pdf
Jun 7, 2015 | 2:42 pm
#111
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: XNA, TUL
Programs: Avis First, AA plebian :(
Posts: 196
If PC upgrade become as rare as First upgrades, this will not be any better for me. Back when I was PC through the Chase card they would bring me nice cars from the airport when I reserved at the neighborhood location. Not only do they not bother now that I am a lowly First (I wouldn't expect them to anyway), they decline to give me a premium on a full size reservation even when they have one sitting there.
The only upgrade I've gotten in 10 rentals so far this year was when I used an upgrade coupon. It's a bit infuriating, TBH. Why bother to have the benefit if it is never actually given? (I'm particularly annoyed today because they had an MKZ on hand, which would have been a single class upgrade, it's been sitting there unrented for days and the car I have will be up for an oil change before the end of the week so it would have made everyone's life easier to just give me the damn upgrade)
The only upgrade I've gotten in 10 rentals so far this year was when I used an upgrade coupon. It's a bit infuriating, TBH. Why bother to have the benefit if it is never actually given? (I'm particularly annoyed today because they had an MKZ on hand, which would have been a single class upgrade, it's been sitting there unrented for days and the car I have will be up for an oil change before the end of the week so it would have made everyone's life easier to just give me the damn upgrade)
Jun 7, 2015 | 3:19 pm
#112
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,134
I just started using Avis in the past week - it' s the preferred provider for my firm, and now need to rent cars regularly
I have th AMEX PLAT card and have had the old Avis Preferred status through that - it looks like that no longer has any special value
Has anyone heard if the AMEX PLAT will now give us Preferred Plus status?
I'm at 2 rentals in the past 10 days, will have my 3rd next week
I have th AMEX PLAT card and have had the old Avis Preferred status through that - it looks like that no longer has any special value
Has anyone heard if the AMEX PLAT will now give us Preferred Plus status?
I'm at 2 rentals in the past 10 days, will have my 3rd next week
Jun 7, 2015 | 7:38 pm
#113
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 11,695
No one knows that Avis Preferred Plus program will be like - the T&C we found here seems to be from the Beta site. It probably IS the real one but the T&Cs do not seem to have been officially announced.
At the end of the day, as you see in how they handled the program change, Avis really does not care much about loyalty.
Jun 8, 2015 | 7:26 am
#114
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: DFW
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, Admirals Club, Global Entry
Posts: 1,156
I'll apologize up front for this very basic, and possibly unanswerable, question. What benefit, then, is there in having the American Express Platinum card or the Citi Prestige card, which I believe are supposed to get you Avis First, which in turn appears to be vaporizing?
Jun 9, 2015 | 6:53 am
#115
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,775
It may well be definitively unanswerable at the moment, but a guess might be that it will change to provide the new Preferred Plus status instead.
Jun 16, 2015 | 10:42 pm
#116
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,134
I'm on track to meet the "12 rentals or 35 days" criteria by mid July
Is Avis FIRST a dead program at this point? or should I expect an invite into it?
Nothing in my current avis account mentions points earned etc
Is Avis FIRST a dead program at this point? or should I expect an invite into it?
Nothing in my current avis account mentions points earned etc
Jun 28, 2015 | 3:48 am
#117
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 11,695
So, we are two days from the end of the program and 3 days from the new program. Has anyone found any details other than the Beta site?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Jun 28, 2015 | 12:44 pm
#118
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,134
I just called Avis to ask, was transferred to the PC desk. They confirmed the details mentioned above, and the rental count and spend count starts as of July 1st, no credit for YTD spend/rentals
The agent said the website will report what your count is, everyone starts at Preferred, then at 12r/$5k will be auto-elevated to Preferred Plus, and at 25r/$7k will be auto-elevated to President's Club
I have a rental beginning tomorrow, returning Thurs July 2nd, unclear if that'll be counted
The agent said the website will report what your count is, everyone starts at Preferred, then at 12r/$5k will be auto-elevated to Preferred Plus, and at 25r/$7k will be auto-elevated to President's Club
I have a rental beginning tomorrow, returning Thurs July 2nd, unclear if that'll be counted
Jun 28, 2015 | 5:13 pm
#119
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: XNA, TUL
Programs: Avis First, AA plebian :(
Posts: 196
That is mildly infuriating. I'm already at 13 rentals so far this year, am First, and will get downgraded to plain Preferred for a couple of months if this is true. On the bright side, there is still enough time to make PC on weekly rentals.
Jun 28, 2015 | 7:19 pm
#120
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 26,111
Of course, if MasterCard World Elite updates giving Avis First status to giving Avis Preferred Plus status, that just might the easier route.