Jul 1, 2015, 8:19 am
Last edit by: 4aks
Links to new program info:
http://www.avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
https://www.avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
Calendar year 2015 rentals count towards status (12 rentals = preferred plus; 25 rentals = PC )
Rentals begun July 1st earn points
Redemption of points is unknown and dynamic
Data points:
July 2015 - 3 day Minivan rental, adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 316 points. Adding Sirius (6.99/day) was 200 points
July 2015 - 4 day full size mid week - adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 332 points
July 2015 - 1 day (full size?) in Seattle - 2400 points for one free day
Aug 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points (vs $18 base cost)
Sep 2015 - Weekday, Boston Back Bay, 1d6h rental - 4600 points (vs. $85 full size)
Oct 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points / jumped to 1330 points all month, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend day ORD - 950 points
Nov 2015 - Weekend day IAH - 1800 points (1 day)
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 950 pts, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 1330 pts, many vehicle types (points devalued the closer to the rental period)
http://www.avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
avis.com/car-rental/content/avisPref-Program.ac?pageName=avisPref-Points
https://www.avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
avis.com/car-rental/html/global/en/terms/US/PrefMbrGlobalTermsMiddle.pdf
Calendar year 2015 rentals count towards status (12 rentals = preferred plus; 25 rentals = PC )
Rentals begun July 1st earn points
Redemption of points is unknown and dynamic
Data points:
July 2015 - 3 day Minivan rental, adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 316 points. Adding Sirius (6.99/day) was 200 points
July 2015 - 4 day full size mid week - adding GPS ($9.99/day) requires 332 points
July 2015 - 1 day (full size?) in Seattle - 2400 points for one free day
Aug 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points (vs $18 base cost)
Sep 2015 - Weekday, Boston Back Bay, 1d6h rental - 4600 points (vs. $85 full size)
Oct 2015 - weekend day at SAN, intermediate - 600 points / jumped to 1330 points all month, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend day ORD - 950 points
Nov 2015 - Weekend day IAH - 1800 points (1 day)
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 950 pts, many vehicle types
Nov 2015 - weekend SAN - 1330 pts, many vehicle types (points devalued the closer to the rental period)
Changes to Avis First Program
Jul 2, 2015 | 7:00 pm
#151
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 11,698
1. Points are not worth a specified dollar amount. The redemption of Points is dynamic, much like car rental pricing, and the quantity of points required for benefits varies based upon such elements as duration of the rental, date, car class, time of year and location. For example, a one-week rental at a major airport location during a peak travel period will require more points than a weekend rental taking place during off-peak season at a local market Avis location in a smaller city. All of those factors will determine how many points are required to obtain desired benefits.
If you look through Flyertalk, you will see some members spend a lot of time working out the math of the programs. With the description you provided, it seems we really can't determine that. Without the ability of determining the value of the rewards, a rewards program does not make sense to some of us. It would be much better to say each point is worth how much credit toward a rental based on whatever rate we can find rather than this indeterminate math.
Of course, after what Avis did with Avis First (botched rollout last year of the new program, expiring the coupons early, lack of communications on the transition), we know to not expect too much....
Jul 5, 2015 | 8:55 am
#152
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SYR
Programs: US/AA-Platinum, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Gold, AVIS-Presidents Club, National-Executive Elite
Posts: 2,755
Oh well. I've been doing a ton of rentals in NYC and BOS lately, and I honestly don't want the upgrades since it gives me larger cars, and I have a hard time parking them on the small streets in those cities. I've been rejecting every SUV rental upgrade (except in winter).
I think some time in the past year, I just stopped caring. After 8 years of weekly travel, I just want to get home faster. No super nice car is going to make that happen. And since all the lower class cars now have bluetooth, cruise, automatic, a/c, leather, etc., seems all i need is a steering wheel and 4 tires.
Any one else just stop caring?
Jul 5, 2015 | 3:45 pm
#153
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 9,942
Members start with 0 points and are eligible to earn 250 bonus points after opting-in to Avis Preferred Points and completing a qualifying rental within 3 months. Avis Preferred Plus members can then earn 25%-50% additional bonus points on each rental while they maintain their Tier status.
1. Points are not worth a specified dollar amount. The redemption of Points is dynamic, much like car rental pricing, and the quantity of points required for benefits varies based upon such elements as duration of the rental, date, car class, time of year and location. For example, a one-week rental at a major airport location during a peak travel period will require more points than a weekend rental taking place during off-peak season at a local market Avis location in a smaller city. All of those factors will determine how many points are required to obtain desired benefits.
2. Generally, yes. There is no surcharge to earn Avis Preferred Points; however as per some corporate agreements, employees may not be eligible. You may want to check with your company to be sure.
3. Yes, members would earn points on the paid portion of the rental; so, in this case the $175. However, please note that points are not earned from taxes or fees.
1. Points are not worth a specified dollar amount. The redemption of Points is dynamic, much like car rental pricing, and the quantity of points required for benefits varies based upon such elements as duration of the rental, date, car class, time of year and location. For example, a one-week rental at a major airport location during a peak travel period will require more points than a weekend rental taking place during off-peak season at a local market Avis location in a smaller city. All of those factors will determine how many points are required to obtain desired benefits.
2. Generally, yes. There is no surcharge to earn Avis Preferred Points; however as per some corporate agreements, employees may not be eligible. You may want to check with your company to be sure.
3. Yes, members would earn points on the paid portion of the rental; so, in this case the $175. However, please note that points are not earned from taxes or fees.
Jul 7, 2015 | 5:34 am
#154
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 11,698
Ha, this is hilarious.
Oh well. I've been doing a ton of rentals in NYC and BOS lately, and I honestly don't want the upgrades since it gives me larger cars, and I have a hard time parking them on the small streets in those cities. I've been rejecting every SUV rental upgrade (except in winter).
I think some time in the past year, I just stopped caring. After 8 years of weekly travel, I just want to get home faster. No super nice car is going to make that happen. And since all the lower class cars now have bluetooth, cruise, automatic, a/c, leather, etc., seems all i need is a steering wheel and 4 tires.
Any one else just stop caring?
Oh well. I've been doing a ton of rentals in NYC and BOS lately, and I honestly don't want the upgrades since it gives me larger cars, and I have a hard time parking them on the small streets in those cities. I've been rejecting every SUV rental upgrade (except in winter).
I think some time in the past year, I just stopped caring. After 8 years of weekly travel, I just want to get home faster. No super nice car is going to make that happen. And since all the lower class cars now have bluetooth, cruise, automatic, a/c, leather, etc., seems all i need is a steering wheel and 4 tires.
Any one else just stop caring?
I would be happy if I get a Chevy Cruz or Hyundai Sonata/Elantra every time. I actually have them put in my profile no upgrade but I still get them.
I do try to avoid cars that smell like smoke or too much cleaning agent.
Jul 7, 2015 | 10:02 am
#155
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 152
Did anyone else not get any announcement about this, last fall or recently?
Jul 7, 2015 | 10:45 am
#156
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 26,111
I certainly read about everything first here (pardon the pun!), not in emails from Avis, but I can't remember for sure which if any emails I got from Avis after I'd already read what they would say here.
Jul 7, 2015 | 1:21 pm
#157
Company Representative
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 5
Yes, customer service (800-331-7423) should be able to look it up.
Jul 7, 2015 | 2:26 pm
#158
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 9,942
I used to be able to see it; why was the functionality removed?
Jul 9, 2015 | 6:03 am
#160
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 11,698
I wonder:
1 - how long does it take for a rental to post?
2 - would it list rentals that are not eligible?
3 - do you need to have enough points in your account for the website to display how many points are needed for a rental?
Thanks.
1 - how long does it take for a rental to post?
2 - would it list rentals that are not eligible?
3 - do you need to have enough points in your account for the website to display how many points are needed for a rental?
Thanks.
Jul 9, 2015 | 8:27 am
#161
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,134
The rental I began July 2nd, returned July 6th, posted to my account overnight - I now have the 250 bonus points and the rental points.
The rental I made July 7th has not posted yet.
Avis 'upcoming reservations' was missing the rental I have for tonight. I called and the added it to my account, but in doing so, the price changed a few dollars. This is not yet appearing online, but I will look again in an hour.
I need to search my emails and see if other reservations I made via American Airlines website are also not appearing in my Avis profile
The rental I made July 7th has not posted yet.
Avis 'upcoming reservations' was missing the rental I have for tonight. I called and the added it to my account, but in doing so, the price changed a few dollars. This is not yet appearing online, but I will look again in an hour.
I need to search my emails and see if other reservations I made via American Airlines website are also not appearing in my Avis profile
Jul 9, 2015 | 8:42 am
#162
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Washington State
Posts: 1,780
AvisPreferredRep - please reply
It would really help folks if we knew what the redemption value was. I understand it will be dynamic, like the Southwest program.
However, even the Southwest program will tell me that it takes 60 points to be worth a dollar of airfare (or some number like that).
It would help tremendously if Avis were to publish something like this. Otherwise we are all left wondering why you are keeping it a secret, and you know what that leads to...
Thanks!
Mikey
However, even the Southwest program will tell me that it takes 60 points to be worth a dollar of airfare (or some number like that).
It would help tremendously if Avis were to publish something like this. Otherwise we are all left wondering why you are keeping it a secret, and you know what that leads to...
Thanks!
Mikey
Jul 9, 2015 | 3:50 pm
#163
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 11,698
It would really help folks if we knew what the redemption value was. I understand it will be dynamic, like the Southwest program.
However, even the Southwest program will tell me that it takes 60 points to be worth a dollar of airfare (or some number like that).
It would help tremendously if Avis were to publish something like this. Otherwise we are all left wondering why you are keeping it a secret, and you know what that leads to...
Thanks!
Mikey
However, even the Southwest program will tell me that it takes 60 points to be worth a dollar of airfare (or some number like that).
It would help tremendously if Avis were to publish something like this. Otherwise we are all left wondering why you are keeping it a secret, and you know what that leads to...
Thanks!
Mikey
Last edited by username; Jul 9, 2015 at 6:50 pm
Jul 9, 2015 | 7:17 pm
#164
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 26,111
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/south...17-2015-a.html
Jul 10, 2015 | 5:55 am
#165
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 11,698
Looks like the rental I returned on Tuesday posted Friday morning + the 25% bonus and 250 bonus points. Still don't know what I can get with the points - tried to make a reservation but nowhere it showed the point requirements...