Lifemiles Devaluation

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Feb 9, 2025 | 8:17 pm

#16

abcx

Join Date: Dec 2008

Posts: 3,344

Quote:

Originally Posted by joejones

Yup. Avianca even blocks its own BOG-LHR business class on dates that are bookable through UA and AC.

So perhaps some coding mistake? It's not like it hasn't happened before with AV!

Feb 9, 2025 | 9:20 pm

#17

joejones

Join Date: Mar 2007

Location: TYO / WAS / NYC

Programs: American Express got a hit man lookin' for me

Posts: 5,274

AV metal is working -- I was looking at the wrong date... quickly corrected my post but apparently not quickly enough

Feb 10, 2025 | 4:01 am

#18

nexusCFX

Join Date: Dec 2017

Location: SFO/YYZ

Posts: 2,815

Quote:

Originally Posted by joejones

NH first class seems to be available again, after being clearly nerfed a day ago. LH first class also works.

Based on my experimentation, it seems that LifeMiles can't see any business awards across the Atlantic or Pacific regardless of carrier. I am able to find transborder business class on AC, but not transatlantic or transpacific. Japan-Asia and Japan-Europe business class on NH, but nothing touching the US or Canada or Mexico. TK business class to Europe and Asia, but not transatlantic. No UA Polaris. Etc. Of course I am looking for flights that are bookable through UA, AC, etc.

Yup I see it back as well, and no price change compared to some that I booked in December ex-USA. Quick buy + burn on NH F is my only use of Lifemiles these days, so looks like I am in the clear.

Also DP: Was able to book CDG-HND and HND-FRA in J just now.

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Last edited by nexusCFX; Feb 10, 2025 at 4:51 am

Feb 10, 2025 | 9:26 am

#19

Fluff Ermine

Join Date: Aug 2022

Location: SFO

Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Titanium, AA Exec Plat, OZ Diamond Plus

Posts: 392

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexusCFX

What price are you seeing for NH F? I'm still seeing 160K for routes ex-USA and ex-JPN. Maybe it's a LM+ glitch.

Feb 10, 2025 | 9:28 am

#20

seanp7

Join Date: Aug 2005

Location: FLL

Programs: UA Gold 1MM, Marriott Bonvoy LTTE, BA Silver

Posts: 7,725

Quote:

Originally Posted by joejones

NH first class seems to be available again, after being clearly nerfed a day ago. LH first class also works.

Confirmed seeing LH F (eg. Feb 13, FRA-JFK) at the 'usual' rates.

Feb 10, 2025 | 1:18 pm

#21

nexusCFX

Join Date: Dec 2017

Location: SFO/YYZ

Posts: 2,815

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluff Ermine

What price are you seeing for NH F? I'm still seeing 160K for routes ex-USA and ex-JPN. Maybe it's a LM+ glitch.

I have LM+ and it was 108k for ORD-NRT when I checked.

Feb 17, 2025 | 12:40 am

#22

yellowmamba

Join Date: Mar 2019

Location: Taipei / Paris

Programs: CI Emerald. Marriott Plat. Hyatt Globalist.

Posts: 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by will_give_tp_for_miles

Yeah I did some quick searches and see it too
JFK-FRA LH
Economy 35,000 -> 40,000
Business 69,000->80,000

SFO-TPE BR
Economy 47,000 -> 50,000
Business 90,000->100,000

Intra Asia seemed fine eg. TPE-NRT

looks like TPE-HND got nerfed, now 30k+

Feb 21, 2025 | 5:04 am

#23

Tokar

Join Date: Jan 2019

Programs: LifeMiles Silver Elite

Posts: 136

IAD-BRU before the devaluation was 35000. It went to 40,000 after. I have LifeMiles+ so the LM+ discounted price went from 31,500 to 36,000 (both 10% discounted).

Avianca miles costs haven't changed from what I can see.

Feb 21, 2025 | 5:29 am

#24

mlqsko

Join Date: Oct 2011

Posts: 4,068

I think they are pushing for LM+

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