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erik123 Oct 14, 2008 3:21 pm

Perhaps Chavez can pay the fees? - eight suitcases should do.

Jaimito Cartero Oct 14, 2008 3:25 pm

I would guess that this fee will cut down on tourists from the US/Canada by 15-25%. I enjoy Argentina quite a bit. My grandmother was born there many years ago, so I feel some affinity for the country, and is generally not as expensive as Europe.

These large fees may not kill any trips totally, but will reduce journeys considerably, if they are per entry fees.

There are many other places in Latin America, Asia and other parts of the world, that are nice to stay for extended periods of time. I've recommended Argentina to hundreds of people, and I know I would knock them down my favorite place listing by a few slots.

lerasp Oct 14, 2008 3:42 pm

this fee will also affect the cruise traffic. there's a healthy cruising industry between brazil, argentina, chile and antarctica. now, some will choose a cruise leaving from other ports, will forego shore excursion in argentina or reconsider the trip altogether.
i already have brazil visa and been to argentina. on my next trip, while i probably would prefer argentina, i'm likely to go to brazil. my preference is not that strong and i will be happy with either. i think for those who are set on going to argentina, it won't dissuade them. but a lot of marginal decisions (like paris vs BsAs) will come on the wrong side for argentina. it's a shame!

aviationkiwi Oct 14, 2008 7:03 pm

WOW. That's a lot of money if you are used to paying none.

This makes a little less appealing to visit Argentina, probably instead of going every year, I might do every other year.

soulskier Oct 14, 2008 9:45 pm

Kiwi, I am under the belief that you pay once and it is good for 10 years.

Spiff Oct 14, 2008 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by mikew99 (Post 10480504)
It's worth pointing out that in such cases, Americans are completely in control of how much they pay for a visa. I see lots of complaints on FT about visa reciprocity fees, yet few efforts by those complainers to get the U.S. government to reduce visa fees imposed on foreign tourists.

Do you really think that complaints by US citizens would have any effect?

I've been advocating the destruction of the TSA for years to my elected representatives. :(

Spiff Oct 14, 2008 10:29 pm


Originally Posted by leandrorar (Post 10492097)
If USA citizens would like to pay less, they can easily write to their house and senate representatives.

Bahaha. That's really funny.

"Dear Senator Snort,

Please end visa fees for our guests from Argentina. Also, please end all visa requirements for visitors and stop treating our guests like criminals when they come to visit."

Sincerely,

Spiff

Probability of effecting change: zero. :(

Spiff Oct 14, 2008 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by BillScann (Post 10501377)
Tit for tat is a reasonable response: I approve. If you don't like it, I suggest you contact your representatives in Congress.

Won't do a darn thing, my friend, and you know it...

mikew99 Oct 14, 2008 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 10521961)
Do you really think that complaints by US citizens would have any effect?

Of course it does! But don't be surprised if you don't find a groundswell of support for your cause to reduce Visa fees. Most Americans couldn't care less that the U.S. charges foreigners $130 for a Visa. They only see it as a problem with they themselves are charged that amount! :rolleyes:

Spiff Oct 14, 2008 11:17 pm


Originally Posted by mikew99 (Post 10522093)
Of course it does! But don't be surprised if you don't find a groundswell of support for your cause to reduce Visa fees. Most Americans couldn't care less that the U.S. charges foreigners $130 for a Visa. They only see it as a problem with they themselves are charged that amount! :rolleyes:

The minority that bothers to get a passport and travel abroad, that is. :(

erik123 Oct 15, 2008 10:02 am


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 10522118)
The minority that bothers to get a passport and travel abroad, that is. :(

Like Palin?

RxCapt Oct 15, 2008 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by SacFlyer (Post 10519500)
However, we nearly cancelled a side trip to Santiago and Vina del Mar due to the $100 US Chilean entrance fee and high air fares

If traveling by land from Mendoza to Santiago is an option, there is no reciprocity fee.

Bob'sYourUncle Oct 15, 2008 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by Lovecraft (Post 10487313)
I think the problem here is timing. This should have been implemented ages ago, just when Brazil did it, in response to the US imposing a fee for the visa.
Right now, it doesn't make much sense.

Argentines at one point were allowed visa-free travel to the US (pre their financial/bank crisis of a few years ago). No need for reciprocity fees then.

Bob'sYourUncle Oct 15, 2008 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by britenbsas (Post 10489374)
Maybe they will reduce the cost to $20 when the US reduce the cost for an Argentine to apply for a US visa! If the Argentine government want REAL reciprocity, they should calculate what percentage of the average Argentine monthly salary the US$131 represents and then charge the same percentage of the US average monthly salary. It would be a hell of a lot more than $131.

They should also add an adjustment for visa denials for Argentines. Remember that the USD131 the US charge is an application fee for a visa without any guarantee of issuance. A true reciprocity fee would take this into account. Especially when every single USer arriving in Argentina is allowed in.

Bob'sYourUncle Oct 15, 2008 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by leandrorar (Post 10492097)
Cheap tourists do not really count towards the economy and if you consider $131 a show-stopper, it's because you fall in this category.

Didn't want to say it, but there you have it...


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