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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Most of the more upscale restaurants (and many around Recoleta) will have English menus and some staff that will have at least basic knowledge of English. In any case, always ask for an English menu... the worse thing that can happen is that you will get a nice broad smile...
Are we likely to get a "tourist" price if we ask for the English menu?
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 7:45 pm
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additional parrillas....

in addition to these places, which are excellent, i'd recommend El Rio Alba and La Catedra, two places on Cervino in Palermo, very close to the US Embassy and the parks of Palermo. excellent places the last time I visited (new years 2003-2004). will be back next month and hope to go to those two, in addition to Cabana Las Lilas


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Below is a list of both parillas (ie. places that specialize in beef) and also some selected restaurants (**) that have a more diverse menu but where one can also order beef and not be let down....

El Pobre Luis
Cabania Las Lilas
Hereford
El Parrillon de Recoleta
El Novillo Alegre
La Dorita
Campo Bravo
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Villa Hipica (**)
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
Are we likely to get a "tourist" price if we ask for the English menu?
Ive always thought that knowing your surroundings (as much as reasonably possible), researching approximate prices of goods & services, etc. is the 101 of any seasoned traveller. On the other hand.... a tendency to doubt everyone and everything, or looking behind your shoulder every 30 seconds is, IMO, the best way to ruin an otherwise potentially great holiday...

Having said that, since some folks like to make extra sure, in case of doubt or if you smell something isnt right, just get a Spanish menu...
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by jasondc
in addition to these places, which are excellent, i'd recommend El Rio Alba and La Catedra, two places on Cervino in Palermo, very close to the US Embassy and the parks of Palermo. excellent places the last time I visited (new years 2003-2004). will be back next month and hope to go to those two, in addition to Cabana Las Lilas
Very good point. Of the two... I think Rio Alba is slightly better, but both are indeed places to have in mind for a good meaty dinner or lunch... ^

One additional note: El Pobre Luis will be closed for holidays until February...
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by runningshoes
A tourist's view on these two places, and Estancia, which we also visited for lunch.

Estancia is more of a typical local's place, dressed up for tourists (two minutes from the Obelisco on Lavalle), great value, and a good selection of meats. Nothing fancy.

El Parillon - (Gaucho - if I remember, this is the spot right across from the Cemetery?), also decent, not a fancy place, great for a nice steak and glass of wine after the tour.

Las Lilas - definately a high end place, owned by a company that raises cattle, expect to pay $30 - $35 per person USD, with a good bottle of wine. IMHO, this is probably one of the top three steak meals I've ever had. The meat just tastes different than in the US - maybe not having all the hormones and crap in the meat is what makes the beef better, I don't know.

In general, we did not have a bad meal and that includes the Argentinian equivalent of a fast food parillijada in one of the malls. I can't get over the fact that you can either have McDonald's or a steak and the price is the same.
A very good assessment above.

As for the difference between US and Argentine beef, apart from the lack of hormones and other goodies, remember that most US beef is grain fed, and beef in Argentina is fed with grass and raised is less "industrialized" methods which allows for less fat concentration in one place (instead there are many small layers of fat that ensure that special taste).... ^
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one more place i forgot to mention...

..is El Primo on Baez and Arevalo in Las Canitas. i've been goign there since 1999/2000 and it's still good and still as popular as ever. love it. the trio of mashed potatoes/ mashed pumpkin/ mashed sweet potato is great, as well as the chorizo appetizer..



Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Very good point. Of the two... I think Rio Alba is slightly better, but both are indeed places to have in mind for a good meaty dinner or lunch... ^

One additional note: El Pobre Luis will be closed for holidays until February...
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Having said that, since some folks like to make extra sure, in case of doubt or if you smell something isnt right, just get a Spanish menu...
When I travel to a non-English speaking country, I usually like to see BOTH the regular menu and the English menu. There are several reasons: one, I guess, is to guard against overcharging, although in my experience that is extremely rare. Second is to make sure there aren't any "specials" on the local menu -- for obvious reasons, tourist menus aren't updated as often. Finally, sometimes I know the names of dishes in the local language, sometimes in English -- reading both increases the odds that I will wind up with what I THINK I ordered.

FWIW, in Buenos Aires, my experience is that English-language menus are more prevalent than one might reasonably expect, and that I haven't had an overcharge problem (although, no doubt, it probably exists somewhere). But just how do you translate "bife de lomo"?
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by jasondc
..is El Primo on Baez and Arevalo in Las Canitas. i've been goign there since 1999/2000 and it's still good and still as popular as ever. love it. the trio of mashed potatoes/ mashed pumpkin/ mashed sweet potato is great, as well as the chorizo appetizer..
Not to start a food fight... but if you like El Primo, then you will die for Campo Bravo. The beef is far better.... and so is everything else...
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 12:27 pm
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Gaucho - where is Campo Bravo? i'll definitely give it a try when i'm there in March.


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Not to start a food fight... but if you like El Primo, then you will die for Campo Bravo. The beef is far better.... and so is everything else...
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 9:47 am
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Anyone stay at the Claridge Hotel lately?
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 3:36 pm
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Read about this restaurant on another board. Anyone have a ^ or a ?

1880 Parrilla in San Telmo
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 4:29 pm
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 9:05 am
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I'm looking at the

InterContinental
BUENOS AIRES
MORENO 809
(1070) CAPITAL FEDERAL
BUENOS AIRES, C1091AAQ

for a possible stay. Their web site says it is, "The InterContinental Hotel Buenos Aires is located in the heart of the gaslight district of the Old Town." Is that a good location for tourists? Has anyone had any experience with this hotle. All help appreciated!
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 9:27 am
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it's a good hotel but...

it's not in the best location for tourists, better for business people. i'd look at a hotel in Recoleta if possible.
Etoile Hotel, Alvear palace, Wilton Palace, all better bets/ in closer proximity to places you'd want to see


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I'm looking at the

InterContinental
BUENOS AIRES
MORENO 809
(1070) CAPITAL FEDERAL
BUENOS AIRES, C1091AAQ

for a possible stay. Their web site says it is, "The InterContinental Hotel Buenos Aires is located in the heart of the gaslight district of the Old Town." Is that a good location for tourists? Has anyone had any experience with this hotle. All help appreciated!
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 9:28 am
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I haven't stayed at that hotel, its located downtown near the presidential palace, Casa Rosada. 'gaslight district' seems to be a stretch, I doubt there have been any gaslights down there in 50 years! Although that's a cool neighborhood to visit for half-a-day I'd never stay in a hotel there. As mentioned throughout this thread, Recoletta & Palermo are much more interesting places to stay. There are numerous hotels recommended in this thread, it will take an hour or two, but its worth reading the whole thing before you head to Bs. As.

Originally Posted by Here-I-Go
I'm looking at the

InterContinental
BUENOS AIRES
MORENO 809
(1070) CAPITAL FEDERAL
BUENOS AIRES, C1091AAQ

for a possible stay. Their web site says it is, "The InterContinental Hotel Buenos Aires is located in the heart of the gaslight district of the Old Town." Is that a good location for tourists? Has anyone had any experience with this hotle. All help appreciated!
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