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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 1:40 pm
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Speeding Ticket in Argentina

I just received a notice from Hertz that I received a ticket when I rented a car 5 months ago. It just says I was speeding on a certain road at a certain time but no information as to the actual speed or speed limit. It looks like a camera ticket but there is no photo. Hertz charged my credit card for the fine. Anyone have any experience with this? It's hard to remember if I speeded or not (probably did) but without more information, I don't want to pay. Hertz will probably ban me from renting in Argentina if I don't pay but I can live with that.
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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 2:47 pm
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Per the Hertz contract, you are responsible for any fines & penalties imposed on Hertz. Hertz has already been "pad" through its CC merchant account. Now it's a debit to OP's CC account and he is on the hook.

So long as Hertz can document the penalty and that it was imposed during a period of OP's rental, any dispute will be denied.

Basically, OP is in the position of retaining someone in Argentina to research and fight what might be a valid ticket and, if it's not, getting the penalty reimbursed to Hertz so that Hertz will issue a credit to OP.

Bottom line is that unless you are rich and have a lot of time, this is the end of the road (literally).
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
Per the Hertz contract, you are responsible for any fines & penalties imposed on Hertz. Hertz has already been "pad" through its CC merchant account. Now it's a debit to OP's CC account and he is on the hook.

So long as Hertz can document the penalty and that it was imposed during a period of OP's rental, any dispute will be denied.

Basically, OP is in the position of retaining someone in Argentina to research and fight what might be a valid ticket and, if it's not, getting the penalty reimbursed to Hertz so that Hertz will issue a credit to OP.

Bottom line is that unless you are rich and have a lot of time, this is the end of the road (literally).
And if it does get reimbursed, OP would still be out some money as AR$ has devalued.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by sr_tipitinas
I just received a notice from Hertz that I received a ticket when I rented a car 5 months ago. It just says I was speeding on a certain road at a certain time but no information as to the actual speed or speed limit. It looks like a camera ticket but there is no photo. Hertz charged my credit card for the fine. Anyone have any experience with this? It's hard to remember if I speeded or not (probably did) but without more information, I don't want to pay. Hertz will probably ban me from renting in Argentina if I don't pay but I can live with that.
Would you care to share with us how you usually deal with your speeding tickets in the USA....?
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Would you care to share with us how you usually deal with your speeding tickets in the USA....?
In the USA, one would have an actual interaction with a police officer; i.e., pulled over, and written a citation.

The only exception to this would be the red light cameras (in certain jurisdictions, and due to issues with them, in declining use), which should get a picture of the driver and the car/plates.

The concept of getting a speeding ticket after the fact without warning is literally a foreign concept!
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 5:31 pm
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The concept of getting a speeding ticket after the fact without warning is literally a foreign concept!
Common to get a camera speeding fine without being aware of it beforehand in the UK. You can appeal if you have your suspicions.

In the OP's case. If you know you were on that road at that time then you can't really complain. However it's your call. How much was it?
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
In the USA, one would have an actual interaction with a police officer; i.e., pulled over, and written a citation.

The only exception to this would be the red light cameras (in certain jurisdictions, and due to issues with them, in declining use), which should get a picture of the driver and the car/plates.

The concept of getting a speeding ticket after the fact without warning is literally a foreign concept!
Don't Americans drive in Europe quite often..???? Its not like Argentina invented cameras for speeding tickets......

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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
In the USA, one would have an actual interaction with a police officer; i.e., pulled over, and written a citation.

The only exception to this would be the red light cameras (in certain jurisdictions, and due to issues with them, in declining use), which should get a picture of the driver and the car/plates.

The concept of getting a speeding ticket after the fact without warning is literally a foreign concept!
Exactly the same experience in Switzerland2009. No recourse
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Don't Americans drive in Europe quite often..???? Its not like Argentina invented cameras for speeding tickets......
Just sayin ... the concept of getting a ticket with no evidence / recourse is foreign - it sure would be to me, who has never driven in Europe, or Argentina
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 2:13 am
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In western europe it tends to be a letter in the post with a photograph from the speed camera of the alleged offence, with the date and time printed on it.

Gaucho is it not similar in Argentina?

Anywho it's always better to simply pay up and walk away. At least it doesn't affect your own motor insurance back home!
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 7:42 am
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Rather than being billed by the rental company indirectly, I received 2 separate speeding tickets from 2 separate Australian provinces directly to my address in the UK, with credit card payment details. They were persuasive enough implying that if I had any intention of ever setting foot in Australia again, and did not want to be treated as a felon, it would be in my best interest to pay up...

Unless we are talking about an astronomical amount, isn't it worth just paying up? Who knows if, or where this can escalate...
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by moronic50
In western europe it tends to be a letter in .
the post with a photograph from the speed camera of the alleged offence, with the date and time printed on it.

Gaucho is it not similar in Argentina?

Anywho it's always better to simply pay up and walk away. At least it doesn't affect your own motor insurance back home!
Yes.... but sometimes no photo. Things are not implemented consistently.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Things are not implemented consistently.
I almost spit out the coffee in my mouth when reading this. Remember, it is just a "sensation of inconsistency."

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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 5:14 am
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I almost spit out the coffee in my mouth when reading this. Remember, it is just a "sensation of inconsistency."

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Yes, indeed. A whole lot of things are implemented inconsistently, and many things in this country need to be reworked, thought over, and changed..... but that's is for another thread.

All the above, however, does not mean that the OP should be excused for not observing local laws. The OP has confessed to speeding..... what more is there to say...?

If this thread is about how to get away with breaking the rules that is one thing.... but as I posted above, I would be very interested in knowing how the OP acts in a similar situation when he/she is back home.
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 7:01 am
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I must admit I'm surprised to find that they have speeding camera detection in place....I didn't know they did. I hope it becomes more common outside of the capital......as long as they enforce the fines.

I wish they would also clamp down on the idiots in my town who ride motor bikes in the dark without lights. They appear out of nowhere even coming against the traffic flow on a one way road....then get abusive when you nearly hit them.
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