PTS is lousy
#16
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Originally Posted by miikka
Hmmm, interesting. I have always got my tickets pretty much right away during the same phone conversation. Once they had to confirm one of the legs and they called me back within 10 minutes after checking with the airline. Maybe I am asking something too easy
#17
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Have only used PTS to book FHR rates. To the earlier poster who suggested that Business Plat cardholders weren't eligible to use PTS, and I can offer myself as a counterexample...
#18
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by miikka
Topic says PTS is lousy and nothing about the country so I guess I am able to share my opinion. I have IEC Platinum and my PTS is provides by AMEX UK. I have got excellent rates, no special service fees at all. Always exceptional service. Very happy with the service.
#19
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by kuroneko
Can we call Amex UK with a U.S. issued card?
I have not tried this because I am not a US member; AMEX France PTS was helpful and solved my train ticket problem.
#20
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by senatorgirth
how can PTS quoted rates be significantly higher than that found at expedia, travelocity, or my local AAA travel agent? I mean, isn't PTS using Amadeus/Sabre/Galileo/Worldspan like everybody else? How is it that PTS quotes me on a car rental $50. per day MORE than the other guy? Are they assuming that becasue I'm willing to fork over $395./year for their card that I've no sense of value?
Whenever I've been forced to use PTS, I *always* do some quick research on the going rate for the travel service I'm about to request, and *tell* the agent the route I want and the fare I believe I should pay. It's sad that I have to do this, but they have done little in the way of promoting confidence in their service.
#21
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: AMEX Plat, FPC Plat, SPG Gold, NW Silver
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Kasop
Have fun at the Townsend, I don't know if you have stayed there before, but it is a great property with wonderful service and the most comfortable beds ever. While you are there you must eat at the Rugby Grille (in lobby), if you are so inclined, have Halaal make you Steak Tartare tableside, and say hey to Chuck behind the bar.
Have fun at the Townsend, I don't know if you have stayed there before, but it is a great property with wonderful service and the most comfortable beds ever. While you are there you must eat at the Rugby Grille (in lobby), if you are so inclined, have Halaal make you Steak Tartare tableside, and say hey to Chuck behind the bar.
Originally Posted by kasop
. In fact today I just booked The Townsend in Michigan through Preferred Hotels
Kasop
Kasop
Last edited by chardo; Mar 14, 2006 at 8:10 pm
#22
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Tampa
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One upside to PTS
Although PTS both sucks and blows [TM, Bart Simpson] in most cases, one thing they can do that provides me some value is that they can book a ticket in someone else's name -- someone with whom you will NOT be flying.
Significantly, the person flying will not be asked to show the credit card used to buy the flight when they check in, nor will you need to go to the airport in advance to sign off on the fact that you are the person paying for that ticket, and here's my credit card and ID, blah, blah.
That service has been worth more than the $35 PTS ticketing fee to me, in terms of saved hassles several times.
In case you know of an easier (and cheaper!) way to achieve the above scenario without using PTS, please let me know.
Significantly, the person flying will not be asked to show the credit card used to buy the flight when they check in, nor will you need to go to the airport in advance to sign off on the fact that you are the person paying for that ticket, and here's my credit card and ID, blah, blah.
That service has been worth more than the $35 PTS ticketing fee to me, in terms of saved hassles several times.
In case you know of an easier (and cheaper!) way to achieve the above scenario without using PTS, please let me know.
#23
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Miami, FL, USA
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Originally Posted by gwarboy
Although PTS both sucks and blows [TM, Bart Simpson] in most cases, one thing they can do that provides me some value is that they can book a ticket in someone else's name -- someone with whom you will NOT be flying.
Significantly, the person flying will not be asked to show the credit card used to buy the flight when they check in, nor will you need to go to the airport in advance to sign off on the fact that you are the person paying for that ticket, and here's my credit card and ID, blah, blah.
That service has been worth more than the $35 PTS ticketing fee to me, in terms of saved hassles several times.
In case you know of an easier (and cheaper!) way to achieve the above scenario without using PTS, please let me know.
Significantly, the person flying will not be asked to show the credit card used to buy the flight when they check in, nor will you need to go to the airport in advance to sign off on the fact that you are the person paying for that ticket, and here's my credit card and ID, blah, blah.
That service has been worth more than the $35 PTS ticketing fee to me, in terms of saved hassles several times.
In case you know of an easier (and cheaper!) way to achieve the above scenario without using PTS, please let me know.
I book airline tickets for other people all the time on the individual airline's web page. Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to do?
#24
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by aviators99
Hmm....
I book airline tickets for other people all the time on the individual airline's web page. Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to do?
I book airline tickets for other people all the time on the individual airline's web page. Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to do?
If I'm not flying with someone but I pay for their ticket on my credit card, the check-in agent will ask my friend to show the credit card used to purchase the ticket (and they won't have that card with them, of course).
Unless they skip the human agent and use online check-in (or the airport kiosk), I guess. Hmmm, perhaps that's the ticket (pun!).
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Umm, that may have been true about 5 years ago on some airlines for tickets purchased just a few days before travel...
But does any carrier actually still do that??
But does any carrier actually still do that??
#26
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I have bought tickets for others with no problems. No questions, etc.
Hmmmmm....
Hmmmmm....
#27
Join Date: May 2003
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Originally Posted by gwarboy
That service has been worth more than the $35 PTS ticketing fee to me, in terms of saved hassles several times.
In case you know of an easier (and cheaper!) way to achieve the above scenario without using PTS, please let me know.
In case you know of an easier (and cheaper!) way to achieve the above scenario without using PTS, please let me know.
#28
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Originally Posted by gleff
Umm, that may have been true about 5 years ago on some airlines for tickets purchased just a few days before travel...
But does any carrier actually still do that??
But does any carrier actually still do that??
Thus, if an airline still (sometimes) asks to see my credit card when I am the one flying, they surely could do it to someone else, whose ticket I had bought but wasn't with them at the airport.
I'm willing to accept that US airlines don't do this regularly any longer (maybe they do it mostly to nonelites?), but I prolly wouldn't want to risk putting an infrequent-flyer friend in a pickle at the check-in counter without me there, if they happened to get asked this question.
When I've booked tickets for pals via PTS, I've often confirmed with the Amex CSR that the passenger won't be asked to show the purchasing card. This was the basis for my comment about PTS having this one upside to them.
Perhaps someday I'll take the risk that others here have undertaken... or, more likely, I'll just chicken out and keep coughing up the $35 PTS fee for a possibly worthless assurance by Amex personel that a phantom checkin-counter threat won't occur. Hmmmm.
#29
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Originally Posted by gwarboy
It was either Delta or UAL who asked to see my credit card on a recent flight that I personally was taking. I hadn't been asked to see my CC in a long, long time, and was taken aback.
Perhaps someday I'll take the risk that others here have undertaken... or, more likely, I'll just chicken out and keep coughing up the $35 PTS fee for a possibly worthless assurance by Amex personel that a phantom checkin-counter threat won't occur. Hmmmm.
Perhaps someday I'll take the risk that others here have undertaken... or, more likely, I'll just chicken out and keep coughing up the $35 PTS fee for a possibly worthless assurance by Amex personel that a phantom checkin-counter threat won't occur. Hmmmm.
At a hotel or car rental, okay; even on a pre-paid, they want to swipe a card as a form of collateral in case you then trash the room or wreck the car, but at no other business would I put up with that demand.
#30
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I agree. I posted a seprate thread on it taking over 75 minutes to reserve a Limo!!
More over on Friday evening, I was going with a great friend and his wife to the berkshires for the week end.
My bestfriend car resevation was "lost" by the company.
I called Plat travel. My rep NEEDED tp place me for on hold as she had to get her Supervisor to help her. A car rental request needed a supervisor!
I was able to make the arrangements myself on Orbitz in less than six minutes!!
I did this while on hold with Plat travel.After 13 minutes no one had come back and I hung up.
Of course after the first six minutes, I no longer needed a car. I was holding on out of curiosity.
Its funny, I had the $30 starwood Card and starpoints are more valuable than
Membership reward points.
The service with the starwood customer service center ( and My Hilton card and regular Optima has always been exellent. I have a very high opinion of American Express. The service with the $395 a year card is BELOW the service of the free and $30 cards!!
I feel that its not only the Plat travel desk. The 800 number customer service is actually worse at Plat than *wood and Hilton!!!
My bestfriend car resevation was "lost" by the company.
I called Plat travel. My rep NEEDED tp place me for on hold as she had to get her Supervisor to help her. A car rental request needed a supervisor!
I was able to make the arrangements myself on Orbitz in less than six minutes!!
I did this while on hold with Plat travel.After 13 minutes no one had come back and I hung up.
Of course after the first six minutes, I no longer needed a car. I was holding on out of curiosity.
Its funny, I had the $30 starwood Card and starpoints are more valuable than
Membership reward points.
The service with the starwood customer service center ( and My Hilton card and regular Optima has always been exellent. I have a very high opinion of American Express. The service with the $395 a year card is BELOW the service of the free and $30 cards!!
I feel that its not only the Plat travel desk. The 800 number customer service is actually worse at Plat than *wood and Hilton!!!