Jan 18, 2016, 10:57 am
Last edit by: MaxVO
This thread is a continuation of: Airline fee $200/$100 reimbursement reports: DL only [2011 - 2015]
Credit posting delays range from several business days (typical) to several weeks (seen in Oct 2015). The T&Cs state that it could take up to four weeks, so wait at least that long before worrying, and certainly don't contact Amex prematurely
Caution: effective from 22 June 2019, gift card purchases from Delta do not get reimbursed.
Read this primer first
additional collections/split tender
THIS IS A LOOPHOLE. BE DISCREET
Anything coded as an additional collection (aka add/collect or a/c), including difference in fare when changing flights, and accepting an FCM offer, also triggers the credit and will be reimbursed; this may (insufficient data) only happen if the additional amount collected is below ~$250 (regardless of card type, e.g. there have been reports of full $100 credit for Gold card on a/c over $100 and full $200 credit for Plat on a/c over $200 but less than $250)
other non Gift Card options
(DEAD) eGift Card (eCert) details
This Section is not applicable effective 2019/06/22!
Credit posting delays range from several business days (typical) to several weeks (seen in Oct 2015). The T&Cs state that it could take up to four weeks, so wait at least that long before worrying, and certainly don't contact Amex prematurely
Caution: effective from 22 June 2019, gift card purchases from Delta do not get reimbursed.
Read this primer first
- In the Amex Membership Rewards family, both the Consumer and Business versions of the Platinum and Centurion cards qualify for a $200 airline credit. The Premier Rewards Gold (PRG) card is eligible for a $100 airline credit.
- You must
click here to<--(link dead) select Delta as your enrolled airline before you make a reimbursable purchase, else the benefit won't apply. The feature is activated immediately upon airline designation. Try logging in to your AMEX account and selecting the airline. This link may work - If you've selected DL in the past and don't wish to change airlines, there's no need to select again; current selection rolls into future years until modified.
- The T&Cs state the eligible charges, but YMMV, so don't call and ask especially about the fuzzier cases below because that will probably hasten closing of any loopholes.
- The credit is per account, not per card. If the main account has authorized users with additional cards, eligible charges may still be made on those cards, but they'll count jointly towards the same account limit.
- Credits are capped per calendar year, meaning you could tap the full amount on Dec 31st and again on Jan 1st in the extreme. Transaction date, not posting date, determines the year. Note: This is not my experience. I purchased Dec 31, 2016, posted Jan 1, 2017 and went against my 2017 credit. (TheMadBrewer)
- You will get a partial credit to bring your total annual reimbursements to the limit exactly if a qualifying charge takes you past the limit.
- After four weeks, if you've read this Wiki carefully and posted here seeking assistance but the credit still has not arrived, consider chatting with Amex online. Politely mention the "Delta extras" you thought would be reimbursed within four weeks and they'll handle it.
additional collections/split tender
THIS IS A LOOPHOLE. BE DISCREET
Anything coded as an additional collection (aka add/collect or a/c), including difference in fare when changing flights, and accepting an FCM offer, also triggers the credit and will be reimbursed; this may (insufficient data) only happen if the additional amount collected is below ~$250 (regardless of card type, e.g. there have been reports of full $100 credit for Gold card on a/c over $100 and full $200 credit for Plat on a/c over $200 but less than $250)
- Relevantly, split tender where you partially pay with a gift card, existing credit, VDB voucher etc. and partly charged to your card, are processed by DL as an add/collect and trigger the credit per above.
- Thus if you anticipate actually buying, say, a $200 DL ticket, you could buy a single $50 gift card, then buy the ticket using $50 GC and $150 on your card (the $150 will be reimbursed)
- Canceling a ticket within the 24-hour risk-free period generally results in funds being returned to where they came from (GC back to GC and CC back to CC). If you have no immediate travel plans but anticipate travel in the next year, consider buying a fully refundable ticket and then changing it later once you know your future travel dates. IF a lot of people suddenly start refunding tickets after getting the credit reimbursement this may hasten the demise of this particular loophole.
- Caution when buying multiple tickets: for example if you buy two $125 tickets in one transaction (total $250) and use one $100 GC or even two $50 GCs, they will all be applied to the same ticket and you would see one additional collection for $25 on that ticket and a separate "normal" charge for $125 for the second ticket. In this scenario only $25 will be reimbursed (instead of the $150 you might be expecting)
other non Gift Card options
- baggage and other service fees (same day change/standby, change fees, etc.)
- taxes on award flights
- in-flight purchases (EXCEPT wifi)
- SkyClub access/guest fees (but NOT gift cards purchased at a SC, which are actually activated at a 3rd party web site)
- mileage boosts (post 2499)
- The $59 for Delta Skymiles Select is reimbursed (posts 2180, 2182)
- seat assignment fees (may need to call in to have processed manually)
(DEAD) eGift Card (eCert) details
This Section is not applicable effective 2019/06/22!
- Delta eGift Cards (eCerts) have been reimbursed in practice, even though technically they do not meet the criteria listed by Amex for reimbursement. The name on the eCerts doesn't matter and need not match your card, but you must purchase using an eligible Amex card and meet the other criteria detailed in this Wiki.
- Denominations over $50 will not generate the credit. Multiple $50 eCerts will. The smallest denomination available is $50.
- To order, use this direct link to the eGift cert order page, or navigate via Delta.com>Shop>eGift Certificate.
- No need to place separate orders using multiple carts/checkouts. By adding multiple certs to one order (e.g., 4 x $50), even though they are in the same cart, the certs will post as separate transactions and still generate a credit for each.
- eCert purchases may initially authorize (show pending) as ticket purchases before posting to (finalize on) your statement. Multiple-eCert orders may authorize the combined value as a single pending ticket purchase. Don't worry; they'll post later as separate eCert charges in the qualifying amounts.
- eCerts are generated instantly, but the codes are not valid for use until 72 hours after purchase, so don't order expecting to use them in a pinch.
- A maximum of three eCerts may be redeemed per online transaction. Splitting a round-trip into two one-ways will allow you to use additional eCerts, but in some cases two one-ways may cost more than a single roundtrip so compare carefully to decide whether using more than 3 certs on a single trip is worthwhile.
- If purchasing a ticket for more than 1 person, splitting the purchase into a separate transaction for each person would also allow the use of more than 3 certs on a single trip at (usually) no additional cost. However this could have an adverse effect on ability to upgrade, upgrade priority, and other elite benefits, and on the likelihood of being reaccommodated on the same flight in the event of a flight cancellation.
- There is one recent REPORT of a telephone agent allowing more than three eCerts to be used when purchasing one ticket.
- eCerts do not expire. Their T&Cs are listed here.
Airline fee $250/$200/$100 reimbursement reports: DL only (2015-2019)
Dec 18, 2019, 7:21 pm
#2536
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I don't get it. If you purchased a ticket for $236, and selected pay with miles, you'd use 23,600 SkyMiles. So what did you need to use the Hilton card for?
Dec 18, 2019, 7:31 pm
#2537
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Data point:
2/15 - Purchased a $259.60 Delta ticket and used a $50 GC. Charged $209.60 on AMEX Plat
2/16 - $209.60 posted as “Travel - Airline”.
So far no credit posted and meter hasn’t moved. Shouldn’t it have posted as “Additional Collection”? Not very hopeful that I’ll get reimbursed.
2/15 - Purchased a $259.60 Delta ticket and used a $50 GC. Charged $209.60 on AMEX Plat
2/16 - $209.60 posted as “Travel - Airline”.
So far no credit posted and meter hasn’t moved. Shouldn’t it have posted as “Additional Collection”? Not very hopeful that I’ll get reimbursed.
Or you should just chill out and wait a few days:
8/1 - bought DL $225 ticket using a $50 GC
8/2 - $175 posted as additional collection (this only shows on the web, my app still says travel-airline)
(weekend in here, if that makes a difference)
8/5 - meter moved
8/6 - reimbursed (shows date of 8/5, but wasn't there last night)
8/2 - $175 posted as additional collection (this only shows on the web, my app still says travel-airline)
(weekend in here, if that makes a difference)
8/5 - meter moved
8/6 - reimbursed (shows date of 8/5, but wasn't there last night)
Dec 18, 2019, 8:08 pm
#2538
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Posts: 4,035
Can I buy the delta egift card online and use it to buy an airfare? or if i do pay with miles. how many miles will I need to use?
Dec 18, 2019, 8:50 pm
#2539
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 1
Tried to search but I haven't found the original DPs that suggest this <$250 limit applies - does anyone know where this came from? Is it an arbitrary number or have people tried >$250 charges that posted as additional collection?
I booked a $311 fare using a $50 GC and charged the remaining $261 to an Aspire with $250 in travel credit remaining - we'll see if it ends up working, if not I should still have time to rebook one that's under $250 after GC (bought a refundable ticket, anyways).
I booked a $311 fare using a $50 GC and charged the remaining $261 to an Aspire with $250 in travel credit remaining - we'll see if it ends up working, if not I should still have time to rebook one that's under $250 after GC (bought a refundable ticket, anyways).
Dec 18, 2019, 11:57 pm
#2540
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: PHX, SEA
Programs: Avis President's Club, Global Entry, Hilton/Marriott Gold. No more DL/AA status.
Posts: 4,422
Previously you could use the $200 airline perk twice within the first annual bill. $550 - $400 = $150. The rest of the perks of the card were worth >$150 to me.
This card, however, is not worth $550/year to me when I'm not flying anywhere. Hell, even if I were to fly somewhere, that $200 perk is fairly worthless to me because I never spend $200 on extraneous flight stuff, so I would just be using it for the sake of using it.
This card, however, is not worth $550/year to me when I'm not flying anywhere. Hell, even if I were to fly somewhere, that $200 perk is fairly worthless to me because I never spend $200 on extraneous flight stuff, so I would just be using it for the sake of using it.
Dec 19, 2019, 1:06 am
#2541
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Tried to search but I haven't found the original DPs that suggest this <$250 limit applies - does anyone know where this came from? Is it an arbitrary number or have people tried >$250 charges that posted as additional collection?
I booked a $311 fare using a $50 GC and charged the remaining $261 to an Aspire with $250 in travel credit remaining - we'll see if it ends up working, if not I should still have time to rebook one that's under $250 after GC (bought a refundable ticket, anyways).
I booked a $311 fare using a $50 GC and charged the remaining $261 to an Aspire with $250 in travel credit remaining - we'll see if it ends up working, if not I should still have time to rebook one that's under $250 after GC (bought a refundable ticket, anyways).
i.e. it's not like there were DPs of $245, $246, $247, $248, $249, $250 working and $251, $252 and $253 not working
your $261 will be an interesting test case.A motivated person could do a survey of the last 6-9 months worth of reports and post a summary back to the thread or in the wiki, but I am not that person
(at least not tonight)
Dec 19, 2019, 6:28 am
#2542
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,857
The balance was $236 after paying with some number of miles to bring the residual cost below $250. This is just another good example of a split payment transaction that triggers the credit.
Dec 19, 2019, 8:57 am
#2543
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Smart thinking. I've never use the 24 hour period on a gift card purchase before? If a gift card is used as payment and I cancel in the 24 hour period do the funds just go back on the gift card? IIRC, when I've done that paying with a credit card they usually end up never charging the credit card isntead of charging it and issuing a refund.
Dec 19, 2019, 10:20 am
#2544
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Dec 19, 2019, 10:23 am
#2545
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 19
Does anybody know if the Ascend Package (wifi + priority boarding) is reimbursed?
Wifi isn't reimbursed because it's billed differently, but this comes as a package so I'm not sure how it's billed.
Wifi isn't reimbursed because it's billed differently, but this comes as a package so I'm not sure how it's billed.
Dec 19, 2019, 11:20 am
#2546
Join Date: May 2018
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Dec 19, 2019, 11:30 am
#2547
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Hey jamesteroh , I know I'm seeing this very late but just wondering... where these available online or at the warehouse? Thanks.
Regards
Dec 19, 2019, 11:40 am
#2548
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Hey jamesteroh , I know I'm seeing this very late but just wondering... where these available online or at the warehouse? Thanks.
There were reports in the Delta forum thread about a lot of warehouses having them. They were available in either $500 or $1000 cards and were marked down 10%.
Dec 19, 2019, 3:09 pm
#2549
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 27
Waiting to see if it will trigger reimbursement. (been less than 24 hours since posted, meter haven't moved yet)
BTW this was charged by Delta's foreign branch, in foreign currency converted to USD
Dec 19, 2019, 4:55 pm
#2550
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 2
Same situation here, charged by Delta's foreign branch in foreign currency converted to USD. Although I booked directly on Delta US website. Charge posted 12/7, haven't heard anything since then, now it's 12/19. Should I contact Delta before the year ends?