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American Express press releases with data about previous Small Business Saturday promotions:
2011 Over 100 Million Shoppers Help Jumpstart the Holiday Season for Independent Merchants on Small Business Saturday
2012 More Americans Plan to Shop Small and Spend Big on Small Business Saturday, According to Pre-Holiday Research from NFIB and American Express
2013 Small Business Saturday Gives Small Businesses Big Boost to Kick-Off Holiday Season
2014 American Express Debuts Small Business Saturday Night Extending the National Celebration of Small Business Saturday from Sunset to Last-Call
2011 Over 100 Million Shoppers Help Jumpstart the Holiday Season for Independent Merchants on Small Business Saturday
2012 More Americans Plan to Shop Small and Spend Big on Small Business Saturday, According to Pre-Holiday Research from NFIB and American Express
2013 Small Business Saturday Gives Small Businesses Big Boost to Kick-Off Holiday Season
2014 American Express Debuts Small Business Saturday Night Extending the National Celebration of Small Business Saturday from Sunset to Last-Call
Why is "Small Business Saturday" on Saturday?
#1
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Why is "Small Business Saturday" on Saturday?
Why is it always on Saturday? So many of the small businesses aren't open on Saturdays, and those never see the benefit of Small Business Saturday if it's always a Saturday!
Amex doesn't even know its small businesses very well...
Amex doesn't even know its small businesses very well...
#2
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Just checked this out. Used the map and easily found places I shop. I will definitely register this year. Every year I have let this slip through my fingers. Not this year, as I am making my list of hardware, health food, etc. and looking forward to an awesome dinner at one of my favorite restaurants ever!
#3
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Thursday everyone is eating turkey and watching football.
Friday everyone is doing the black friday thing at the big stores
Monday is back to work.
Saturday and Sunday are all that are left. Saturday is obviously better than Sunday. A small business would be smart to open on Saturday (or, at least that Saturday). This is why I rarely shop at small, local businesses. They need to be open when it's convenient for the customer, not the other way around.
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I can't think of any businesses I know (other than service businesses like architects, accountants, etc.) that are closed on Saturdays. In my small city I have dozens and dozens of choices
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Also, there is a dry cleaner that is literally in my building. I don't use them because they close before I get home from work and are not open on Saturdays. Instead I go to the laundry locker a couple of blocks away where I can drop off and pick up 24/7.
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How about Small Business Weekend (Friday through Sunday)? No greater amount of benefits given, but a chance for just about all business, no matter what their schedule, to be included? If they wanted, they could restrict it so that you can only get get the credit from any one given store on one day of the weekend (whichever day you fullfilled the credit requirements first), but you could do different stores on different days.
And, btw, no one forced Amex to do it on Thanksgiving weekend; they could do it anytime they want, it's their promo.
Last edited by sdsearch; Nov 18, 2014 at 12:38 pm
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The bottom line is that if businesses choose to be closed when it's convenient for their customers to shop, they are going to lose business. Their reasons for making that choice aren't really relevant.
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American Express has obviously chosen to focus its promotion on retail businesses (which are likely to be open on Saturday), as opposed to professional or wholesale businesses (architects, attorneys, accountants, wholesale distributors, etc.) which are less likely to be open on a Saturday.
That is Amex's choice. Live with it. Don't argue that it is discriminatory. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Say "thank you" and move on.
They are trying to give you money for free, so please stop complaining. Now.
That is Amex's choice. Live with it. Don't argue that it is discriminatory. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Say "thank you" and move on.
They are trying to give you money for free, so please stop complaining. Now.
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First they supposedly require you to use the map for something called Small Business Saturday, and then the map has no clue who's actually open Saturdays. Who creates this stupid map? (Which, btw, is stupid for other reasons, like the random order it lists only the 100 supposedly closest in each catogory, which turns out to list the actual closest often on the 7th or 9th page of 10! And, as noted above, the fact that lists businesses that don't actually accept Amex! Maybe a limit of semi-random 100 already covers everyone in Olympia, but it doesn't seem to work all that sanely here in Los Angeles.)
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It didn't feel so free in my gas tank last year (when gas was not as cheap then as this year) when I drove from one hardware store (that I had on the printed map) to the next one to the next one and found them all closed on Saturday (and per the signs on the door, every Saturday).
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It didn't feel so free in my gas tank last year (when gas was not as cheap then as this year) when I drove from one hardware store (that I had on the printed map) to the next one to the next one and found them all closed on Saturday (and per the signs on the door, every Saturday).
First they supposedly require you to use the map for something called Small Business Saturday, and then the map has no clue who's actually open Saturdays. Who creates this stupid map? (Which, btw, is stupid for other reasons, like the random order it lists only the 100 supposedly closest in each catogory, which turns out to list the actual closest often on the 7th or 9th page of 10! And, as noted above, the fact that lists businesses that don't actually accept Amex! Maybe a limit of semi-random 100 already covers everyone in Olympia, but it doesn't seem to work all that sanely here in Los Angeles.)
First they supposedly require you to use the map for something called Small Business Saturday, and then the map has no clue who's actually open Saturdays. Who creates this stupid map? (Which, btw, is stupid for other reasons, like the random order it lists only the 100 supposedly closest in each catogory, which turns out to list the actual closest often on the 7th or 9th page of 10! And, as noted above, the fact that lists businesses that don't actually accept Amex! Maybe a limit of semi-random 100 already covers everyone in Olympia, but it doesn't seem to work all that sanely here in Los Angeles.)
^^^
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Moderator action
I have pulled a dozen posts out of the primary Small Business Saturday thread. Please use that thread to ask practical questions about the offer, and to report reimbursement successes and failures.
I have also created a Wikipost with links to a few American Express press releases reporting their estimates of results from previous years' Small Business Saturday promotions, and the support it has received from governments and large businesses. I did this to try to steer the "Why Saturday?" discussion to a more evidence based direction. This not a comprehensive data set, do your own research.
If you are not interested in this topic, please ignore this thread. Do NOT ask other members to stop posting. Likewise, please do not repeatedly post the same questions or claims.
I have also created a Wikipost with links to a few American Express press releases reporting their estimates of results from previous years' Small Business Saturday promotions, and the support it has received from governments and large businesses. I did this to try to steer the "Why Saturday?" discussion to a more evidence based direction. This not a comprehensive data set, do your own research.
If you are not interested in this topic, please ignore this thread. Do NOT ask other members to stop posting. Likewise, please do not repeatedly post the same questions or claims.
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American Express has obviously chosen to focus its promotion on retail businesses (which are likely to be open on Saturday), as opposed to professional or wholesale businesses (architects, attorneys, accountants, wholesale distributors, etc.) which are less likely to be open on a Saturday.
That is Amex's choice. Live with it. Don't argue that it is discriminatory. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Say "thank you" and move on.
They are trying to give you money for free, so please stop complaining. Now.
That is Amex's choice. Live with it. Don't argue that it is discriminatory. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Say "thank you" and move on.
They are trying to give you money for free, so please stop complaining. Now.