AMEX (Canada) Losing Shoppers Drug Mart
Nov 26, 2012, 8:49 pm
#46
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Nov 26, 2012, 9:19 pm
#47
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It's a privacy issue, and partly to prevent identity theft. See here and here, for example.
It's not unusual for businesses to ignore the rules. They get away with it because customers either don't know the rules or don't complain.
Of course, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Quebec law is different on this issue.
It's not unusual for businesses to ignore the rules. They get away with it because customers either don't know the rules or don't complain.
Of course, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Quebec law is different on this issue.
Nov 26, 2012, 10:06 pm
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I still don't mind proving I am who I am. They just want to look at your photo and signature anyway. Obviously your dob and address are important bits of information that could be used to steal your identity, but most individuals are smart enough to know that the nice middle-aged cashier lady at Save-On Foods that you see every week isn't asking for it to steal your identity...
I'd be more concerned with the young 20-something waiter asking for my ID to serve me alcohol and then later taking my CC away for 10 minutes to process my payment...
Privacy concerns are a farce these days. Just look for your friends on Facebook - even the ones that haven't 'added' you. They have their DOB and all their personal information out there for the world to see. Then there's twitter and linkedin. If you can google yourself, then you're already exposed.
A clerk checking your ID should be the least of your concerns...
Last edited by pokee; Nov 26, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Nov 27, 2012, 7:51 am
#51
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It's a privacy issue, and partly to prevent identity theft. See here and here, for example.
It's not unusual for businesses to ignore the rules. They get away with it because customers either don't know the rules or don't complain.
Of course, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Quebec law is different on this issue.
It's not unusual for businesses to ignore the rules. They get away with it because customers either don't know the rules or don't complain.
Of course, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Quebec law is different on this issue.
Nov 27, 2012, 9:02 am
#52
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Very surprising! Here in BC it happens all the time. I know my local Save-on-Foods had a store policy that we had to show photo ID for all purchases over $100 (that was likely due to fraud) before they installed their CHIP terminals.
I still don't mind proving I am who I am. They just want to look at your photo and signature anyway. Obviously your dob and address are important bits of information that could be used to steal your identity, but most individuals are smart enough to know that the nice middle-aged cashier lady at Save-On Foods that you see every week isn't asking for it to steal your identity...
I'd be more concerned with the young 20-something waiter asking for my ID to serve me alcohol and then later taking my CC away for 10 minutes to process my payment...
Privacy concerns are a farce these days. Just look for your friends on Facebook - even the ones that haven't 'added' you. They have their DOB and all their personal information out there for the world to see. Then there's twitter and linkedin. If you can google yourself, then you're already exposed.
A clerk checking your ID should be the least of your concerns...
I still don't mind proving I am who I am. They just want to look at your photo and signature anyway. Obviously your dob and address are important bits of information that could be used to steal your identity, but most individuals are smart enough to know that the nice middle-aged cashier lady at Save-On Foods that you see every week isn't asking for it to steal your identity...
I'd be more concerned with the young 20-something waiter asking for my ID to serve me alcohol and then later taking my CC away for 10 minutes to process my payment...
Privacy concerns are a farce these days. Just look for your friends on Facebook - even the ones that haven't 'added' you. They have their DOB and all their personal information out there for the world to see. Then there's twitter and linkedin. If you can google yourself, then you're already exposed.
A clerk checking your ID should be the least of your concerns...
(Except for my one throwaway account which doesn't even contain real information)
Nov 27, 2012, 9:06 am
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Nov 27, 2012, 9:09 am
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Jeez, doesn't anyone check ID anymore? That would EASILY solve the issue... It's not like they're busy there with long lines and can't afford to spend the 10 seconds it takes to double-check a driver's license!
Sometimes that's quicker than someone entering their PIN (not everyone is savvy with having to do anything but sign their name when they buy stuff)... Oh the many painful times I've had to wait in line while a person tried to remember their pin, or press the tiny little buttons...
It's not like they're busy there with long lines and can't afford to spend the 10 seconds it takes to double-check a driver's license!Sometimes that's quicker than someone entering their PIN (not everyone is savvy with having to do anything but sign their name when they buy stuff)... Oh the many painful times I've had to wait in line while a person tried to remember their pin, or press the tiny little buttons...
Not to mention the additional charges for using one over there...
Jan 19, 2013, 8:29 am
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Recently had some issues with credit cards and SDM, and this thread came up with google.
One SDM refused to take my USA issued non chipped MC, and occasionally they've demanded id. Word from a Mastercard Canada exec this week is both issues are a violation of their merchant agreement and Mastercard will be talking to SDM about them. They must take all mastercards without discrimination, and cannot require id (pretty sure that would go for the other card issuers too)
One SDM refused to take my USA issued non chipped MC, and occasionally they've demanded id. Word from a Mastercard Canada exec this week is both issues are a violation of their merchant agreement and Mastercard will be talking to SDM about them. They must take all mastercards without discrimination, and cannot require id (pretty sure that would go for the other card issuers too)