Is There A Card Above The AMEX Centurion??
Jul 15, 2010, 10:49 am
#31
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Google it and see that there's only one "mention" of this "card" - on the link you showed (which forwards to a spam site, yes)
Jul 15, 2010, 11:53 am
#32
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It also seems improbable that Morgan Stanley would be issuing an exclusive card on the VISA network in view of the testy history between Morgan Stanley and VISA as explained here:
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleases...guiLanguage=en
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleases...guiLanguage=en
Jul 15, 2010, 3:54 pm
#33
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Oh definitely. It reminded me of a previous post on this forum by some member that wanted someone with a Centurion card to add him as a authorized user with his own card... and he said he could show pictures of all his expensive watches as 'proof' of his wealth.
Jul 16, 2010, 6:57 am
#34
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I had a better look on the links provided by google. Only a few sites or blogs in french and yes, bit old...
Nothing that could confirm this card does really exist.
Sorry guys for that, i will double/triple check next time before sending a post like that...
Nothing that could confirm this card does really exist.
Sorry guys for that, i will double/triple check next time before sending a post like that...
Jul 16, 2010, 9:51 am
#35
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Well, metal Centurion cards are above those lousy plastic ones. And of course Australian Centurion cards are more exclusive than other Centurion cards because we pay a higher yearly fee.
Jul 16, 2010, 10:19 am
#36
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AFAIK there are a few at or above that mark, e.g.
- ICC = 2,800 EUR (about US$3,700)
- Singapore = 5,000 SGD (about US$3,700)
- Japan = 367,500 JPY (about US$4,250)
Jul 19, 2010, 12:56 pm
#38
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Are people wrong here - is it possible that there is something above Centurion called Pearl? I've never heard of it before but check out this post
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/11511096-post13.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/11511096-post13.html
I phoned Centurion Customer Service to enquire about receiving the new card.
They informed me of the following corrections to OP's information:
* The card is not a bright-white, it is more pearl-like. They didn't want to confuse it with the old Visa Stratus card.
The unofficial name for the card is "Pearl" - but this does not appear on the card (like the Centurion)
* The added airline benefits include top tier only with JetBlue, in addition to the usual Centurion elite memberships.
* The hotel benefits does include Platinum SPG (finally), but they are removing their relationship with Priority Club also for Centurions, and as of this month IHG Group Hotels will no longer accept Amex cards at all (some merchant-fees dispute).
* Saks Fifth Avenue is a new retail partner (again) but only if you purchase $10,000 or more from Saks during a rolling 3-month period - and this does not apply to shoes, jewelry, cosmetics, or any sale-items.
* Membership Rewards do not apply to the card, and in the event that you upgrade to Pearl from Centurion, you will receive AMEX gift cards for your existing MR points, at the rate of 1MR=$0.005
* Instead, there will be no points accumulated on Pearl - instead, for each full-increment of $5,000 charged (and paid) in full each month, you will receive a $50 AMEX restaurant card.
* Upon reaching at least $100,000 in any one month - you will also receive 5% cashback from Costco during the remainder of that calendar year.
* You cannot jump from Platinum to Pearl - you must be an existing Centurion primary cardholder.
* The number of Pearl cards is not 500 - it will be capped at 495 (In a tip to the $495 annual Visa Black fee) Eligibility for the Pearl will be "exclusive to the top 1% of US Residents holiding Centurion Status, to ensure the highest level of customer service".
* You will be charged a new initiation fee of $5,000 when you change to the Pearl. The annual fee is also $5,000.
Hope this clears up some confusion...
They informed me of the following corrections to OP's information:
* The card is not a bright-white, it is more pearl-like. They didn't want to confuse it with the old Visa Stratus card.
The unofficial name for the card is "Pearl" - but this does not appear on the card (like the Centurion)
* The added airline benefits include top tier only with JetBlue, in addition to the usual Centurion elite memberships.
* The hotel benefits does include Platinum SPG (finally), but they are removing their relationship with Priority Club also for Centurions, and as of this month IHG Group Hotels will no longer accept Amex cards at all (some merchant-fees dispute).
* Saks Fifth Avenue is a new retail partner (again) but only if you purchase $10,000 or more from Saks during a rolling 3-month period - and this does not apply to shoes, jewelry, cosmetics, or any sale-items.
* Membership Rewards do not apply to the card, and in the event that you upgrade to Pearl from Centurion, you will receive AMEX gift cards for your existing MR points, at the rate of 1MR=$0.005
* Instead, there will be no points accumulated on Pearl - instead, for each full-increment of $5,000 charged (and paid) in full each month, you will receive a $50 AMEX restaurant card.
* Upon reaching at least $100,000 in any one month - you will also receive 5% cashback from Costco during the remainder of that calendar year.
* You cannot jump from Platinum to Pearl - you must be an existing Centurion primary cardholder.
* The number of Pearl cards is not 500 - it will be capped at 495 (In a tip to the $495 annual Visa Black fee) Eligibility for the Pearl will be "exclusive to the top 1% of US Residents holiding Centurion Status, to ensure the highest level of customer service".
* You will be charged a new initiation fee of $5,000 when you change to the Pearl. The annual fee is also $5,000.
Hope this clears up some confusion...
Last edited by mia; Jul 19, 2010 at 1:13 pm Reason: Added quotation formatting