Arbitrary fare differences during reservation change
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Arbitrary fare differences during reservation change
I could not find any thread regarding this but was wondering if anyone ever had a similar experience. First, I understand that fares are kind of dynamic and may change all the time but no to that degree.
I had a reservation for my inbound flight PHL-ZRH and wanted to change it to PHX-PHL-ZRH. I saw that a one-way fare for PHX-PHL is $400.
I reached out to reservations via Twitter and I got this response:
When I got this response I thought I'd never pay $1400. So I was actually considering to just buy that one way ticket for $400. Just before I did that (and this is a few hours later). I took another attempt but this time via chat and they were able to make the change with a fare difference of $62.
What are the odds of the fares being that dynamic? Or is it just a handling mistake by an agent? It's actually not the first time that has happened to me.
I had a reservation for my inbound flight PHL-ZRH and wanted to change it to PHX-PHL-ZRH. I saw that a one-way fare for PHX-PHL is $400.
I reached out to reservations via Twitter and I got this response:
To make this change will require a fare difference of $1400. This can change as it's based on availability. Let us know if you'd like to complete it.
What are the odds of the fares being that dynamic? Or is it just a handling mistake by an agent? It's actually not the first time that has happened to me.
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I think it's just very dynamic, last Wednesday I needed a same day ticket MIA-TPA, saw it online for $1,200 but couldn't book it using credits. Called and had the agent price the ticket and it came back at $900. Was surprised that such a last minute booking fluctuated so much in 5 minutes and for my benefit.
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It is probably down to availability in booking classes.
e.g. the lowest booking class for one way PHX-PHL is V class - the lowest booking class for ZRH-PHL is different with V class ZRH-PHX being about $750 more than cheapest fare
Making a change for PHX-ZRH would be based on fare on best availability for PHX-PHL-ZRH
The 1st agent may have made a mistake or it could be that there was , say, a cancellation of a hold or booking and availability opened in a cheaper booking class for PHX-PHL-ZRH
e.g. the lowest booking class for one way PHX-PHL is V class - the lowest booking class for ZRH-PHL is different with V class ZRH-PHX being about $750 more than cheapest fare
Making a change for PHX-ZRH would be based on fare on best availability for PHX-PHL-ZRH
The 1st agent may have made a mistake or it could be that there was , say, a cancellation of a hold or booking and availability opened in a cheaper booking class for PHX-PHL-ZRH
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I'd check what was actually ticketed. This seems like a wild swing that I'd double if not triple check that what is now ticketed is what you want.
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It is probably down to availability in booking classes.
e.g. the lowest booking class for one way PHX-PHL is V class - the lowest booking class for ZRH-PHL is different with V class ZRH-PHX being about $750 more than cheapest fare
Making a change for PHX-ZRH would be based on fare on best availability for PHX-PHL-ZRH
The 1st agent may have made a mistake or it could be that there was , say, a cancellation of a hold or booking and availability opened in a cheaper booking class for PHX-PHL-ZRH
e.g. the lowest booking class for one way PHX-PHL is V class - the lowest booking class for ZRH-PHL is different with V class ZRH-PHX being about $750 more than cheapest fare
Making a change for PHX-ZRH would be based on fare on best availability for PHX-PHL-ZRH
The 1st agent may have made a mistake or it could be that there was , say, a cancellation of a hold or booking and availability opened in a cheaper booking class for PHX-PHL-ZRH
Usually, I am use to chat agents making mistakes, not the twitter ones.
Last edited by crypticro; Jun 20, 2023 at 4:42 pm Reason: additional info
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Did you check individual flight bucket availability or married segment availability? Adding segment will change the fare from a PHL-ZRH fare to a PHX-ZRH fare (fares are not priced hop-by-hop). There are other things that can come into play here like advance purchase requirements (just because there is bucket availability in lower fare classes doesn't mean there are cheaper fares that can be purchased in those classes due advance purchase requirements for them). Without further info on dates of flights, etc., there's not much to go on here.
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What do you mean by, "that dynamic"? You only described one change. Prices can change daily, or even more often, and fare buckets sell out and become available Everttime a price changes there is a good chance that someone is a witness to the change (i.e. they saw the proce before and after the change).
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A few months ago, I had a similar issue where the add/collect was materially different within a few minutes. As it turns out, the system bumped me out of first class on a segment that wasn't being changed. The web site had showed no indication that this was happening as it only showed the segments being changed. Had I not gone back in to verify the reservation, I'd likely not have noticed for several weeks. I called right away and, after an hour on the phone, AA was able to rebuild the reservation back to what it should have been. I'm not saying this is what happened here or that anything actually went wrong -- just recommending you double check the classes of service, dates of travel, etc.
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A few months ago, I had a similar issue where the add/collect was materially different within a few minutes. As it turns out, the system bumped me out of first class on a segment that wasn't being changed. The web site had showed no indication that this was happening as it only showed the segments being changed. Had I not gone back in to verify the reservation, I'd likely not have noticed for several weeks. I called right away and, after an hour on the phone, AA was able to rebuild the reservation back to what it should have been. I'm not saying this is what happened here or that anything actually went wrong -- just recommending you double check the classes of service, dates of travel, etc.
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What do you mean by, "that dynamic"? You only described one change. Prices can change daily, or even more often, and fare buckets sell out and become available Everttime a price changes there is a good chance that someone is a witness to the change (i.e. they saw the proce before and after the change).
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Alternatively, my understand is that the agent can also book a separate/additional ticket for the $400 PHX-PHL under the same PNR and not change the original ticket.


The issue is that you are changing your routing. It requires a re fare on this return portion. Just buy the $400 ow.