Big Pushback From TSA when using the priority Lane At IAH
#61




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Well the idea behind CLEAR is that they don't need to go through the identity verification part because CLEAR does that for them. The first line is to verify your identity.
Personally I think it's BS but it is what it is. I hope that CLEAR is paying TSA enough money for that.
Personally I think it's BS but it is what it is. I hope that CLEAR is paying TSA enough money for that.
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What part do you think is BS? I wish they'd move all TSA to biometrics, like they did with Global Entry. Clear has saved my ... many times, most notably at DEN where the TSA line was extremely long after getting to the airport late due to a customer meeting that ran long. Made it through CLEAR with no wait, and breezed through the precheck inspection. Best part, my AMEX Plat pays for both clear and precheck.
If TSA was 100% biometrics, or biometrics for those who opted in, I agree that would be better. That's not what this is. Do not confuse a government program like global entry with a private company like Clear.
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I wasn't confusing GE and Clear, I was saying TSA should go fully biometric like GE, but even if they did, they would still charge and provide a bio and regular line for people who don't sign up for bio. I don't know Clear is that' much different than paying for precheck, which lets you bypass post-9/11 security theater, or different from airlines providing expedited security (like Delta One at LAX - Delta One At LAX). Federal agencies let private companies handle gov't business all the time. JMHO
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Just did A-North security to A30 this past Friday.
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So PPRO is only open to US Citizens or Residents?
Many elites in the US or traveling frequently to the US (myself included) are ineligible for TSA-PRE or Global Entry. The closest we are get to TSA PRE is Clear (and there are still restrictions - my spouse couldnt get CLEAR until she got a SSN).
Many elites in the US or traveling frequently to the US (myself included) are ineligible for TSA-PRE or Global Entry. The closest we are get to TSA PRE is Clear (and there are still restrictions - my spouse couldnt get CLEAR until she got a SSN).
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I wasn't confusing GE and Clear, I was saying TSA should go fully biometric like GE, but even if they did, they would still charge and provide a bio and regular line for people who don't sign up for bio. I don't know Clear is that' much different than paying for precheck, which lets you bypass post-9/11 security theater, or different from airlines providing expedited security (like Delta One at LAX - Delta One At LAX). Federal agencies let private companies handle gov't business all the time. JMHO
In terms of lines, it is simply economics. Raise the price of Precheck and you'll have less people.
And in terms of letting private companies handle government business-did you see the pushback on ID.me for IRS logons? Private companies abuse people's data all the time. I don't think that should be allowed. If CLEAR goes bankrupt, can they sell people's biometrics? All's fair in business ...
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I understand not wanting to get fingerprinted "on principle". But if you are a boomer or younger in the US and say, drive, or have a passport; your fingerprints have already been taken.
I understand not wanting to get fingerprinted "on principle". But if you are a boomer or younger in the US and say, drive, or have a passport; your fingerprints have already been taken.
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I'm so confused by this whole story. Who what where why when? What were all the line options?
In my experience (on UA I know nothing of AA), there are 3 lines at most airports: Regular, Elite, and TSA Pre. Elites can use the regular Elite line and take off their shoes but there is no such thing as an Elite Pre line. The only people who can cut the Pre line are Clear and Crew. Is OP saying there was an Elite+Pre line at IAH??? Regardless, if the sign is gone then I guess they can't use it. Sorry.
The companion Pre issue is neither here nor there but they stopped handing it out a few years back. My mom always (like 100%) used to inherit mine. After half a dozen times waiting in line, she broke down and agreed to get it. I've been telling her to for years now. Would not bite the bullet on GE though :/
In my experience (on UA I know nothing of AA), there are 3 lines at most airports: Regular, Elite, and TSA Pre. Elites can use the regular Elite line and take off their shoes but there is no such thing as an Elite Pre line. The only people who can cut the Pre line are Clear and Crew. Is OP saying there was an Elite+Pre line at IAH??? Regardless, if the sign is gone then I guess they can't use it. Sorry.
The companion Pre issue is neither here nor there but they stopped handing it out a few years back. My mom always (like 100%) used to inherit mine. After half a dozen times waiting in line, she broke down and agreed to get it. I've been telling her to for years now. Would not bite the bullet on GE though :/
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I'm so confused by this whole story. Who what where why when? What were all the line options?
In my experience (on UA I know nothing of AA), there are 3 lines at most airports: Regular, Elite, and TSA Pre. Elites can use the regular Elite line and take off their shoes but there is no such thing as an Elite Pre line. The only people who can cut the Pre line are Clear and Crew. Is OP saying there was an Elite+Pre line at IAH??? Regardless, if the sign is gone then I guess they can't use it. Sorry.
In my experience (on UA I know nothing of AA), there are 3 lines at most airports: Regular, Elite, and TSA Pre. Elites can use the regular Elite line and take off their shoes but there is no such thing as an Elite Pre line. The only people who can cut the Pre line are Clear and Crew. Is OP saying there was an Elite+Pre line at IAH??? Regardless, if the sign is gone then I guess they can't use it. Sorry.
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The unlabeled line at some point in the past (pre-covid?) had been a Priority lane, but since then the Priority sign had been removed. The OP had continued to use the unlabeled lane without issue until this time they got called out by the TSA.
There is another checkpoint further away in the same terminal that has TSA Pre, but this one does not.

