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Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Old Dec 29, 2023, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by MarkInMichigan
I have been AA Gold for quite a while. I have re-earned Gold for 2024 and will likely achieve Platinum in a few weeks. My question is about the duration of the status. My understanding is that you maintain your status for one year. In the case of AA, now ending in February. However, when I log into my account, it shows:
AAdvantage Gold®
Valid through Mar 31, 2027
Is this accurate? Will I maintain Gold status through 2027, regardless of how many Loyalty Points I earn?
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that may be an IT glitch unless I’m missing something. Highest status earned between 3/1/23 and 2/29/24 will carry you through 3/31/25.
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Old Dec 30, 2023, 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by ZenFlyer
If not hotels then shopping portal - this time of year lots of major retailers (eg Macy's, Best Buy) are periodically offering 10x LPs for a day, you need to monitor closely. There have also been a couple of "double dip" opportunities via Simply Miles lately. Finally, depending on how long ago you crossed the 100k threshold, all three of the above may have a 30% LP bonus attached.
- Did not see any double dip with Simply Miles for the last ca, 6 months.
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Old Dec 30, 2023, 5:09 am
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Originally Posted by Alex_I
- Did not see any double dip with Simply Miles for the last ca, 6 months.
I gather the offers vary a lot among different people, but I currently see eg, lots of the wine clubs that are regularly on the portal, Stitch Fix, Harry&David, Best Buy just to name a few. The LPs don't always seem super high at first glance, but when you combine the SM and portal offers - and in my case a 30% bonus for each - the incremental earnings can be useful. Eg, I recently spent approx $180 on a gift subscription to Ancestry.com that yielded 2824 LPs from the portal plus 2,245 from SM.
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Old Dec 30, 2023, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by ZenFlyer
I gather the offers vary a lot among different people, but I currently see eg, lots of the wine clubs that are regularly on the portal, Stitch Fix, Harry&David, Best Buy just to name a few. The LPs don't always seem super high at first glance, but when you combine the SM and portal offers - and in my case a 30% bonus for each - the incremental earnings can be useful. Eg, I recently spent approx $180 on a gift subscription to Ancestry.com that yielded 2824 LPs from the portal plus 2,245 from SM.
I was able to double dip with LL Bean just a couple of weeks ago.
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Old Dec 30, 2023, 3:26 pm
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Still waiting for my Tommy Hilfiger SM/Eshopping combo to hit; the Eshopping hit last week, nothing yet from SM.
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 2:15 pm
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One leg in February and 2nd leg in March

Originally Posted by IADCAflyer
From AA (this evening)....regarding credit cards:

What has changed?

The Loyalty Points you earn on AAdvantage® credit card* purchases between March 1 and the end of February of the following year count toward the current status qualification year.

This means you can earn Loyalty Points through February 29, 2024, instead of your last statement close date of the qualification year.

As an example, if your monthly AAdvantage® credit card statement closes on March 5 (which includes purchases posted to your credit card account between February 6 and March 5), all the Loyalty Points earned from purchases made between February 6 through 29 will count toward 2024 status. All Loyalty Points earned between March 1 and 5 count toward the 2025 qualification year.
Just looking to confirm, I’m looking to book a flight in late February and one leg would be last week of February and return would be 1st week in March. Pretty sure it would credit to the 23/24 status since that’s when I purchased and started the flight. OR would one leg post for 23/24 and 2nd leg for next status year?
thanks!
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by IzzyL
Just looking to confirm, I’m looking to book a flight in late February and one leg would be last week of February and return would be 1st week in March. Pretty sure it would credit to the 23/24 status since that’s when I purchased and started the flight. OR would one leg post for 23/24 and 2nd leg for next status year?
thanks!
They post based on the date of the individual flights departure. So the first half would post for February (this qualification year) and the return would post for March (next qualification year). This may or may not be equal based on fare class.
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 2:44 pm
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I was thinking that might be the case. Interesting! Thanks for quick response.
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Old Feb 2, 2024, 3:52 pm
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Do LPs not posting until May 2024 count for 2023 250K LPR?

I'm new to chasing/optimizing LPs and new to this forum, so I hope I'm posting this in the right place.

I booked some Viator activities on 1/15/24 through Aadvantageeshopping, but it looks like the approx 12K of LPs won't post until after the Viator activities happen in May 2024. If it's true that the LPs will post with a January 2024 date, those LPs should be enough to get me to the 250K LPR threshold during the 2023 earning period ending on 2/29/24. Does anybody know if I would still be awarded the LPRs for the 250K threshold as late as May 2024 when these late-arriving LPs actually post? I'm trying to be strategic about my spend, and I don't want to waste any additional spend toward the 250K LPR threshold if those late-posting LPs from the Viator purchase won't count toward the current earning period. Would they maybe count for the 2024 LP earning period instead, or would they maybe just be lame-duck LPs in terms of status? Thanks for any insights!
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Old Feb 6, 2024, 6:49 pm
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Well I reached the 250K LP level yesterday by flying for work so I don't need my rocketmiles hotel res. Anyway I chose the SWU (2) and the other option I'm looking at choosing is either 30K Advantage miles or $250 trip credit. What do you think is more valuable?
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Old Feb 6, 2024, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
Well I reached the 250K LP level yesterday by flying for work so I don't need my rocketmiles hotel res. Anyway I chose the SWU (2) and the other option I'm looking at choosing is either 30K Advantage miles or $250 trip credit. What do you think is more valuable?
Congrats, enviroian - I would choose the 30K AAdvantage miles. I value them more than $250.
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Old Feb 6, 2024, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by JKMSTexas
I'm new to chasing/optimizing LPs and new to this forum, so I hope I'm posting this in the right place.

I booked some Viator activities on 1/15/24 through Aadvantageeshopping, but it looks like the approx 12K of LPs won't post until after the Viator activities happen in May 2024. If it's true that the LPs will post with a January 2024 date, those LPs should be enough to get me to the 250K LPR threshold during the 2023 earning period ending on 2/29/24. Does anybody know if I would still be awarded the LPRs for the 250K threshold as late as May 2024 when these late-arriving LPs actually post? I'm trying to be strategic about my spend, and I don't want to waste any additional spend toward the 250K LPR threshold if those late-posting LPs from the Viator purchase won't count toward the current earning period. Would they maybe count for the 2024 LP earning period instead, or would they maybe just be lame-duck LPs in terms of status? Thanks for any insights!
it's weird, because the LPR (loyalty point rewards) say they have to be selected by 3/31/24, but there'll be people like you who retroactively cross the 250k LP threshhold to get their 250k reward. Sounds like a question for EXP customer service.
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Old Feb 7, 2024, 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by LovePrunes
Sounds like a question for EXP customer service.
Just being nitpicky but this is really a question for AAdvantage Customer Service, not the EXP Desk.

It will be interesting to see how AA handles the few cases where a delayed posting causes someone to cross over a rewards threshold after 3/31.
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Old Feb 20, 2024, 12:30 pm
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Old Feb 24, 2024, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by LovePrunes
it's weird, because the LPR (loyalty point rewards) say they have to be selected by 3/31/24, but there'll be people like you who retroactively cross the 250k LP threshhold to get their 250k reward. Sounds like a question for EXP customer service.
Very good question. Did anyone find out?
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