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Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:13 pm
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Originally Posted by js1993
I'm guessing the new system won't go live until at least after midnight Pacific time. Those people still have almost two hours of 2022 qualifying left. No idea if AA has even later-departing flights out of Hawaii or elsewhere on what's left of Feb. 28.
HNL alone has flights to DFW, PHX, LAX, and another to PHX departing this evening.
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by js1993
I'm guessing the new system won't go live until at least after midnight Pacific time. Those people still have almost two hours of 2022 qualifying left. No idea if AA has even later-departing flights out of Hawaii or elsewhere on what's left of Feb. 28.
Originally Posted by FlyFreakquently
HNL alone has flights to DFW, PHX, LAX, and another to PHX departing this evening.
Yeah, I didn't think about that. So possibly 5am CT now. Good night all.
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:19 pm
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It is live y'all, 0 loyalty points, yea!!! We did it!
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:23 pm
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Only 200k to go!

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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:26 pm
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This feels like progress
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:26 pm
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The new "activity" page layout sucks...
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:26 pm
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They had TWO MONTHS to work this out. You would think they could have displayed at least SOME of the LPs tonight. It was already lame leaving us this way. UGH!
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:28 pm
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0 to EXP! (Classic AA IT)

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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:30 pm
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Originally Posted by bethyy
Yeah, nothing on mine. 0
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:30 pm
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New Portal
It's live! Any "double dipped" loyalty points aren't shown just yet, guess we have to wait a few weeks. I do have a flight later today, I think AA mentioned that LP will start posting for new reservations. We'll see how it goes!
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:31 pm
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For me it says I need 0 points for all qualification levels, and I currently have 0 as well. Glitches in various pages....
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:40 pm
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Originally Posted by nk15
For me it says I need 0 points for all qualification levels, and I currently have 0 as well. Glitches in various pages....
Congrats! That was easy.
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:50 pm
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Some of you guys were right. This new program is a lot easier ...

"Status Earned! [EXP] You did it! Keep flying to earn even more benefits."
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Old Feb 28, 2022, 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by nk15
The new "activity" page layout sucks...
No more table? I have to click on everything individually? Boo.
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 12:01 am
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Ha, I'm done.
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