Apr 1, 2020, 9:54 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: With Alaska’s joining one world and changes in AAdvantage earnings and benefits as of 31 March 2021, the discussion has been closed and appropriate posts moved to https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/2036999-american-alaska-earnings-elite-benefits-31-mar-2021-a.html
American Airlines and Alaska Airlines are working together to become closer and more integrated partners with the addition of mileage accrual across both airlines. As Alaska Airlines prepares to join Oneworld in 2021, Alaska and American are expanding codeshare agreements and providing frequent flyers of both programs to once again earn and redeem miles. Starting April 1, 2020 all flights on either airline can earn miles (award and elite qualifying, as of an April 7 update to the AA web site) for the other airline’s frequent flyer program.
NOTE: Significant numbers of AAdvantage members are reporting excessive time lags or other difficulties with AA miles earned flying Alaska posting in an easy and timely manner.
AA and AS had previously agreed to cease all mileage and codeshare agreements as of March 1, 2020.
link to AA page
link to Travel Codex article
Earn AA Award Miles, EQM, EQD, EQS Flying Alaska / AS Again (as of 1 Apr 2020)
Feb 4, 2021, 10:05 am
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So the bottom line is if using AS out of your market area logistically works, and you are buying an F ticket, then AS all the way as you'll get whatever EQD you would have earned on a AA flight but higher with AS (x 0.35 x).
So a AA flight in F (using easy numbers) gets $100 EQD
Then AS flight in F gets $135 EQD.
Is my logic sound?
So a AA flight in F (using easy numbers) gets $100 EQD
Then AS flight in F gets $135 EQD.
Is my logic sound?
But AS's EQD is a percentage of mileage flown. So regardless of whether you spend $100 or $500, a 2,000-mile flight will get you 700 EQD (in F) or 600 EQD (in P or I).
From DCA, I could fly DCA-SEA-ANC-SEA-DCA for ~$900 in actual spend. But it's 7,554 miles flown, x 0.30, gets me 2266 EQD. I'm sure there are better examples but I actually looked into doing this because I'm almost certainly going to be at an EQD deficit this year. (I wouldn't do it as a mileage run... but I would consider buying an F ticket on AS to visit Alaska this year instead of flying AA, because of the extra EQD.)
Feb 4, 2021, 10:42 am
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No -- AA's EQD is based on dollars spent, so $100 (pretax) = 100 EQD
But AS's EQD is a percentage of mileage flown. So regardless of whether you spend $100 or $500, a 2,000-mile flight will get you 700 EQD (in F) or 600 EQD (in P or I).
From DCA, I could fly DCA-SEA-ANC-SEA-DCA for ~$900 in actual spend. But it's 7,554 miles flown, x 0.30, gets me 2266 EQD. I'm sure there are better examples but I actually looked into doing this because I'm almost certainly going to be at an EQD deficit this year. (I wouldn't do it as a mileage run... but I would consider buying an F ticket on AS to visit Alaska this year instead of flying AA, because of the extra EQD.)
But AS's EQD is a percentage of mileage flown. So regardless of whether you spend $100 or $500, a 2,000-mile flight will get you 700 EQD (in F) or 600 EQD (in P or I).
From DCA, I could fly DCA-SEA-ANC-SEA-DCA for ~$900 in actual spend. But it's 7,554 miles flown, x 0.30, gets me 2266 EQD. I'm sure there are better examples but I actually looked into doing this because I'm almost certainly going to be at an EQD deficit this year. (I wouldn't do it as a mileage run... but I would consider buying an F ticket on AS to visit Alaska this year instead of flying AA, because of the extra EQD.)
Now where should I go....LOL
Do I really have to go via SEA to go anywhere? I think I know the answer to this already
Feb 4, 2021, 12:27 pm
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Of course not---you can go via PDX!!
Feb 4, 2021, 1:50 pm
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Feb 4, 2021, 2:42 pm
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Feb 4, 2021, 6:35 pm
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If you are a member of Costco, they are currently selling AS gift cards ($500 value for $450).
Feb 4, 2021, 6:45 pm
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AS sometimes offers 30% off coupons... One of my direct reports who is only PLT got FLL LAX for $132 one-way in "I" class which is equivalent to $703 EQD since AA uses a distance and booking class formula for AS flights
Feb 4, 2021, 11:06 pm
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You have so many options since AS' rev mgmt teams seems to be more lost than AA's and that's saying something!
AS sometimes offers 30% off coupons... One of my direct reports who is only PLT got FLL LAX for $132 one-way in "I" class which is equivalent to $703 EQD since AA uses a distance and booking class formula for AS flights
AS sometimes offers 30% off coupons... One of my direct reports who is only PLT got FLL LAX for $132 one-way in "I" class which is equivalent to $703 EQD since AA uses a distance and booking class formula for AS flights
Feb 5, 2021, 9:55 am
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I might want to check and see if AK is open first.
Feb 5, 2021, 12:12 pm
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Ah...forgot about Anchorage. I don't even know if AA flies no stop to anc from dfw. I'll check. That being said like you noted EQD is based on miles so a F ticket on AS dfw-sea-anc should be a whopper of EQD credited to my AA account.
I might want to check and see if AK is open first.
I might want to check and see if AK is open first.
Feb 5, 2021, 2:02 pm
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Then, from Jun. 6 to Sept. 3, 2019, a Boeing 787-8 will operate between DFW and Anchorage:
AA 399 — Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 3:25pm Departure ⇒ Anchorage (ANC) 7:12pm Arrival
AA 399 — Anchorage (ANC) 8:40pm Departure ⇒ Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 6:00am Arrival (+1 day)
AA 399 — Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 3:25pm Departure ⇒ Anchorage (ANC) 7:12pm Arrival
AA 399 — Anchorage (ANC) 8:40pm Departure ⇒ Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 6:00am Arrival (+1 day)
Feb 5, 2021, 7:07 pm
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I just used the AA app to check out flights to ANC. All flights of course were on AS metal via Seattle. What I found interesting that the coach price was higher than the AS website and there were no F seats available to purchase. Can AA not sell F seats on AS?
the weekend I’m looking at is March 12tb.
the weekend I’m looking at is March 12tb.
Feb 5, 2021, 8:13 pm
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Guess I’ll need to wait to book that ANC flight on AS!
Hello! American Airlines is currently not offering Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD) or Miles (EQM) for flights on Alaska Airlines. Hopefully once Alaska joins OneWorld this will change. In the meantime, to earn EQD and EQM the airline must be sold with an AA flight number.
Hello! American Airlines is currently not offering Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD) or Miles (EQM) for flights on Alaska Airlines. Hopefully once Alaska joins OneWorld this will change. In the meantime, to earn EQD and EQM the airline must be sold with an AA flight number.
Feb 5, 2021, 8:35 pm
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Guess I’ll need to wait to book that ANC flight on AS!
Hello! American Airlines is currently not offering Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD) or Miles (EQM) for flights on Alaska Airlines. Hopefully once Alaska joins OneWorld this will change. In the meantime, to earn EQD and EQM the airline must be sold with an AA flight number.
Hello! American Airlines is currently not offering Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD) or Miles (EQM) for flights on Alaska Airlines. Hopefully once Alaska joins OneWorld this will change. In the meantime, to earn EQD and EQM the airline must be sold with an AA flight number.
Feb 5, 2021, 8:50 pm
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I did. That’s why I’m confused by AA’s response. Are they off their rocker?