Antarius

AA can allow lots of things. They choose not to.

The point is, codeshares have nothing to do with this. AA could change their rules, but that is independent of pretty much everything else.

rasheed

I am not sure what this means for AA miles on QR redemption, but I don't see a change. QR awards have been available for AA redemption to the extent they were available to QR members.

I believe there are posts somewhere about DFW to DOH on AA. While I agree the QR product is typically better, there are always people who prefer the AA metal for reasons mentioned and others.

pbd456

BA flies LHR DOH.

teemuflyer

If the codeshares with QR to SE Asia happen (which they have not before), then AA would be able to sell you an AA marketed ticket from the US to DOH to SE Asia. I haven't seen a single case of not being able to use a single AAward for something that can be purchased with AA flight numbers through other OW partners (with max connection limitations of course).

This would be something new to AA to have these opportunities to market SE Asia via DOH from the US. Completely separate from being able to use AAwards on OW partner airlines without codeshares.

Dave Noble

London - Japan is one , London to Sydney is another

The information is that it will codeshare to Doha - does not state that it will codeshare beyond Doha

Regardless, I cannot see any reason why the rules for awards would be changed - it has no bearing on codeshare agreements

teemuflyer

London via US to SYD or something else? There are no codeshare flights to SYD that you can attach an AA flight number to going east bound. Same with Japan.

And yes, codeshares do make a difference from a marketing and customer experience perspective.If something goes haywire, regardless of operating carrier, AA would be responsible to remedy the situation if the flight was sold as an AA flight number (what happens behind the scenes is a different matter).

And why would AA allow QR to codeshare with them to US destinations but not get some sort of reciprocal benefits from DOH?

DMPHL

Not sure about from QR, but Vasu Raja is quoted in one article as saying that CLT is not a candidate for potential future AA-operated service to DOH.

Dave Noble

AA flies from UK-US and then AA codeshares on Qantas to Australa - there is no exception to 3rd region exception for this
AA codeshares from UK-US on BA and flies to Hong Kong anf Japan - neither are exceptions to 3rd region exception

There is no reason why there would be a special exception for Asia via Doha

Djokison

This is correct.

There are hundreds (if not thousands) of cases (city pairs) where this isn’t possible.

No, you seem to not (want to?) understand that codeshare and awards are in no shape or form related.

cmd320

I’d be willing to bet nothing is actually a candidate for DOH. I’d be shocked to ever see an AA plane there. Basically every AA hub already has one or multiple QR flights to DOH and there’s no way AA can compete with QR. The hubs that don’t aren’t likely to get them.

UA Fan

I hope the FF partnership with EY is not impacted. Award availability on EY is unbeatable.

teemuflyer

I'm still looking to find any codeshare flight that starts from the US, goes to a partner hub, and continues on to a partner operated destination, but with an AA flight number and I can't use a single AA award for it. The whole point of having codeshares- matching and/or extending the network from a marketing perspective. Make $'s selling on someone else's metal.

Example: I can choose to book a flight from AUS to LHR to CPT all on AA flight numbers. I can choose to fly BA metal the whole way, or a mix of BA and AA metal, rather than say direct AUS-LHR-CPT. However I can't start from LHR and fly to CPT on an AA flight number. It requires a US origination on the same ticket.

The announcement with QR calls it strategic, meaning there has to be some value for both parties to make it worthwhile. If they extend codeshares from the US, through DOH to SIN on QR, how will it, from a marketing and PR perspective make any sense that you can use cash for this wholly AA flight numbered ticket, but can't use an award? Today that is not a problem. For example although AA and BA are tight partners overall, there is no codeshare option from US to LHR to SIN. Of course you can buy the ticket, but the LHR to SIN flight will be on a BA flight number.

DMPHL

Is your argument that the only definition of value in this context is the ability to redeem an award?

Because for many flyers, and for AA in general, I doubt that's true.

AANYC1981

Pretty sure Vasu specifically said no to CLT-DOH possibilities.

JAXBA

Does anyone know why the AA codeshare on ATL-DOH is in one direction only? There's no corresponding DOH-ATL codeshare. It's been this way for a few months at least, if there ever was one.

(Same is true for the B6 and AS codeshares too; ATL-DOH but no DOH-ATL).