Losing Assigned Seats? (Family w/ children, equipment change)
#46
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
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So if you choose your seats when you make the reservation, but cannot do online check in 24 hours prior (for one reason or another) that means you lose your seat assignment? What is the window for which they remove you from your seats? We have a return flight on 6/1/19 that we booked back in Dec and it shows online the same "glitch" that OP was speaking of....we are 2 adults and 2 kids and at the top of the screen it has a warning saying that we cannot sit in exit row seats with anyone on our reservation under 15. We are on a 321 airbus with one adult on row 5 and my kids and I on row 6....which is no where near an exit row. I just assumed this warning was posted as normal but now I am wondering if this means I will also not be able to check in 24 hours prior and we lose our seat assignment as well. What can I do now to keep this happening to me as well?
Your seats can change at any time. But, after checking in, it seems to go way down. Also, with no status, not checked in, you are most vulnerable to a seat change. However, it is relatively rare, as is the ability to not check-in online (if you are normally eligible.
#47
Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: AA Plat Pro
Posts: 105
So if you choose your seats when you make the reservation, but cannot do online check in 24 hours prior (for one reason or another) that means you lose your seat assignment? What is the window for which they remove you from your seats? We have a return flight on 6/1/19 that we booked back in Dec and it shows online the same "glitch" that OP was speaking of....we are 2 adults and 2 kids and at the top of the screen it has a warning saying that we cannot sit in exit row seats with anyone on our reservation under 15. We are on a 321 airbus with one adult on row 5 and my kids and I on row 6....which is no where near an exit row. I just assumed this warning was posted as normal but now I am wondering if this means I will also not be able to check in 24 hours prior and we lose our seat assignment as well. What can I do now to keep this happening to me as well?
As others have mentioned, these seat changes happen most frequently with an aircraft change. A lot of people won't realize there has been an aircraft change because it is often still the same aircraft type and just a different version and/or seat map.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent this from happening. The best you can do is to check your reservations regularly so that you catch a change as early as possible and thus have a better chance of getting the seating fixed to your liking. Even if you catch it early you could still find yourself at the mercy of the gate agent and that agent may or may not be able to help. I know this is frustrating but it is, for now, the way it is.
Please try not to stress over this! Chances are that your seat assignments will stick and be fine. If something does happen the vast majority of gate agents will try to help when young children are involved and if they are given sufficient time to work on the seats (meaning you don't wait until just minutes before boarding).
#48
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent this from happening. The best you can do is to check your reservations regularly so that you catch a change as early as possible and thus have a better chance of getting the seating fixed to your liking.
#49
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Well technology is there but some airlines aren't going to invest, particularly the ULCCs for which Parker sees Y-. AA on occasion might move paxs around outside of a/c equipment switches but it's usually a small move, like being moved from 21A to 22A. A/c switches means reseating gets thrown into AA's software, not the best. However, seats are never guaranteed and DOT isn't going to take that up. By no means is this AA specific, plenty of stories about UA, DL, Frontier, Spirit. The only airline that seems to want to be family friendly (other than those paying actually paying for premium and Y+ seats) is WN.
The bottom line is that the airline business is about fees (and credit cards) not flying. What you think is a free seat selection with Main Cabin isn't guaranteed. The most assured way is for a family to remain together is to pay for the first couple of rows in MCE, and yes for a family of 4 that won't be cheap.
The bottom line is that the airline business is about fees (and credit cards) not flying. What you think is a free seat selection with Main Cabin isn't guaranteed. The most assured way is for a family to remain together is to pay for the first couple of rows in MCE, and yes for a family of 4 that won't be cheap.
#50
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 258
No, they do not remove you from your chosen seats if you do not check in at 24 hours.
As others have mentioned, these seat changes happen most frequently with an aircraft change. A lot of people won't realize there has been an aircraft change because it is often still the same aircraft type and just a different version and/or seat map.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent this from happening. The best you can do is to check your reservations regularly so that you catch a change as early as possible and thus have a better chance of getting the seating fixed to your liking. Even if you catch it early you could still find yourself at the mercy of the gate agent and that agent may or may not be able to help. I know this is frustrating but it is, for now, the way it is.
Please try not to stress over this! Chances are that your seat assignments will stick and be fine. If something does happen the vast majority of gate agents will try to help when young children are involved and if they are given sufficient time to work on the seats (meaning you don't wait until just minutes before boarding).
As others have mentioned, these seat changes happen most frequently with an aircraft change. A lot of people won't realize there has been an aircraft change because it is often still the same aircraft type and just a different version and/or seat map.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent this from happening. The best you can do is to check your reservations regularly so that you catch a change as early as possible and thus have a better chance of getting the seating fixed to your liking. Even if you catch it early you could still find yourself at the mercy of the gate agent and that agent may or may not be able to help. I know this is frustrating but it is, for now, the way it is.
Please try not to stress over this! Chances are that your seat assignments will stick and be fine. If something does happen the vast majority of gate agents will try to help when young children are involved and if they are given sufficient time to work on the seats (meaning you don't wait until just minutes before boarding).
#51
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Thank you. Not really stressing just frustrating if anything. We left AA for WN years ago (when they started flying non stop from DAL to MCO) and just this year decided to switch back to AA from WN to give them another try. One of reasons was being able to pick your seat ahead of time as we hate messing with that with WN lol. I am curious if OP confirmed that the reason for the "glitch" or why they got bumped was due to an equipment change? We are flying the old version of the 321A (as of now) in rows 5 and 6. In this layout, other than row 5, all MCE seats are exit rows as this older plane does not technically have a true "MCE". The other version of this plane does not have rows 5-7 at all. Would it be better for me to switch us to another row further back now just in case they do switch to the other version? All 4 tickets are booked under the same reservation and was a "cash reservation". My husband and I are both citi platinum select card holders (not that makes us special lol) and my husband currently has the "Plat Pro" status due to the promo thing from a few months ago. Unfortunately his temporary status will expire on 5/15 and will not be in effect for this flight on 6/1, so probably won't help us in the least status wise either. Just trying to be proactive.
#52
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The Dakotas
Posts: 608
Was really looking forward to getting to check out the PE seats on the ORD-FCO flight this weekend which I was able to reserve as MCE with paying the appropriate fee about a month ago. I believe AA hadn't officially sold them as PE yet as the completion date of the aircraft updating was uncertain. Seat assignments still showed in row 7 yesterday. Today I saw we had been relocated to non MCE seats. I called to inquire about the move and especially about losing the MCE seats which we had paid for. I was put on hold while the "seats department" was contacted. I was then told that we had to be moved due to a "medical accommodation". We were reassigned into MCE seats- just not in the PE mini-cabin. So an MCE specific seat selection is not a sure thing- which doesn't make sense since there is variable pricing even amongst MCE seats. I wonder how AA determines who to bump from their seats?
#53
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I'm surprised by how many issues people have about equipment changes wrecking seating. In ~ 500 flights in the last several years, it has happened once or twice.
Given that AAs upgrade and seat assignment system is daft, theres no way it seemingly can handle elite status.
is it because of where I sit? Or that I'm usually solo? Or am I somehow lucky? Curious.
Given that AAs upgrade and seat assignment system is daft, theres no way it seemingly can handle elite status.
is it because of where I sit? Or that I'm usually solo? Or am I somehow lucky? Curious.
#54
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: SAN
Programs: AA CK, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 839
I'm surprised by how many issues people have about equipment changes wrecking seating. In ~ 500 flights in the last several years, it has happened once or twice.
Given that AAs upgrade and seat assignment system is daft, theres no way it seemingly can handle elite status.
is it because of where I sit? Or that I'm usually solo? Or am I somehow lucky? Curious.
Given that AAs upgrade and seat assignment system is daft, theres no way it seemingly can handle elite status.
is it because of where I sit? Or that I'm usually solo? Or am I somehow lucky? Curious.
#55
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 4
This part bothers me the most about AA. Obviously a passenger would have to utilize all sorts of resources to accomplish this task; whereas, AA just needs to put in an alert to the passenger via email, text or whatever other method they choose to be contacted that their seat assignment has changed. It doesn't even have to tell them to what other seats. Just that it changed, so they can go in and look. But nope, the technology isn't sophisticated enough to do that. :yikes:
AA claims that there is nothing they can do about it--well, yes it can. AA could invest in better technology or manually make better seat assignments when it changes aircraft. AA could invest in technology that would have notified me immediately so I could try to move into the bulkhead before people booking months after me booked it. AA could fix its app so that it knows the fare I am on and doesn't charge me if I try to move the seats that I am randomly assigned; instead I have to call and wait on hold for alleged customer "service" reps that then need manager approval to move me. It's 2019; we put men on the moon on 50 years ago. No excuse for this. AA simply doesn't care about its customers enough to do any of these things.
Heck, even without the technology fixes AA could easily move the other passengers by explaining that they screwed up and need to accommodate a PE fare passenger who booked over 9 months before you did. Haven't even flown yet, but I'm dreading this trip with AA. Never again.
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#56
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: OH
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Every time I've been on the subway with a young kid or pregnant, it's been a, a man over 65, young man of color or a woman who offers their seat. Young white men have never offered us a seat.
#57
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Was really looking forward to getting to check out the PE seats on the ORD-FCO flight this weekend which I was able to reserve as MCE with paying the appropriate fee about a month ago. I believe AA hadn't officially sold them as PE yet as the completion date of the aircraft updating was uncertain. Seat assignments still showed in row 7 yesterday. Today I saw we had been relocated to non MCE seats. I called to inquire about the move and especially about losing the MCE seats which we had paid for. I was put on hold while the "seats department" was contacted. I was then told that we had to be moved due to a "medical accommodation". We were reassigned into MCE seats- just not in the PE mini-cabin. So an MCE specific seat selection is not a sure thing- which doesn't make sense since there is variable pricing even amongst MCE seats. I wonder how AA determines who to bump from their seats?
#58
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte
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The question is did the OP reserve seats together or actually pay for the seats. For the latter AA is probably more willing to keep families together since they've paid for that privilege. If they simply found free seats together at booking AA is likely less inclined to keep those seats together. Another unfortunate 21st century reality is that one needs to check their reservation regularly for things like equipment swaps so that if there is an issue it can be resolved beforehand. Waiting for the day of departure and expecting a family to get seats together is risky and problematic. This does not in anyway excuse the behavior of the one agent.
#59
Join Date: Mar 2015
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#60
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Sorry AA doesn't see it that way. AA sees it as you "reserved" 6 seats together-you didn't pay for six seat together. That is the reality today of airlines monetizing the a/c.