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In large airports there are limitations on early pushback. It's basically up to the ground controller. The Captain just can't close the door and instruct the ground crew to begin pushback. The crew would probably love to do so as they could be home or to the hotel earlier or have more time between flights.
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Happened to me at CLT. I had to use the restroom and we still had around 20 minutes before boarding started. All of a sudden they start boarding early - I have never seen a plane board that fast in my life. I was all like 😦 AA app didn’t say anything, that app is not always up to date. |
Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
(Post 30835253)
In large airports there are limitations on early pushback. It's basically up to the ground controller. The Captain just can't close the door and instruct the ground crew to begin pushback. The crew would probably love to do so as they could be home or to the hotel earlier or have more time between flights.
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Listen to ATC recordings on YouTube. Pilots need approval for all ground movement. They simply can't drive off to and from the gate as they please. In fact when you listen to ground controllers at large airports there's often testy communication with pilots. If the controller has a tarmac full of planes he/she likely won't let an aircraft push early.
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I recently saw a sign AA posted to GAs telling them to not board early as it is causing problems on the other end as flights arrive early with no gate. Couldn't find it now - did anyone else see this?
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Originally Posted by HofstraJet
(Post 30835873)
I recently saw a sign AA posted to GAs telling them to not board early as it is causing problems on the other end as flights arrive early with no gate. Couldn't find it now - did anyone else see this?
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Originally Posted by MarkOK
(Post 30832966)
Every flight DFW to SWO does this. It's a small ERJ 135 or 140, they begin boarding at T-30 sharp or earlier, it takes 5 minutes to board the plane, then they start doing final boarding call announcements. Many times I get there at T-25 as and they are itching to close the door. Not sure yet at what point they would yet. Doubt they would call me too.
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
(Post 30835901)
If you mean this, not an admonition against early boarding, something else.
https://twitter.com/TheForwardCabin/...60893496897536 |
Originally Posted by jacca83
(Post 30835200)
Yes, I've ran into the same situation. Since on certain flights I am not so concerned with overhead space, I prefer to stay in the lounge as long as possible and board last. Like you, I leave the lounge exactly when boarding is scheduled to begin and by the time I get to the gate (5-10 mins later) they are announcing final boarding. I'll sometimes even get a comment made that they were about to give my seat away. I completely understand they are aiming for an on-time departure, but they need to get their act together and stop changing the rules/procedures without clearly communicating.
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You'all missed the causation. It is high time to outlaw the T-10 door closing. There is a simple solution the door closing needs to be the departure time. SIMPLE.
The idiots who invented T-10 door closing should have their MBA diplomas invalidated. |
Originally Posted by m44
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You'all missed the causation. It is high time to outlaw the T-10 door closing. There is a simple solution the door closing needs to be the departure time. SIMPLE.
The idiots who invented T-10 door closing should have their MBA diplomas invalidated.
Originally Posted by JonNYC
(Post 30835901)
If you mean this, not an admonition against early boarding, something else.
https://twitter.com/TheForwardCabin/...60893496897536 |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 30836124)
Interesting. No mention of how it affect passengers though, just how it affects AA.
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Originally Posted by GNRMatt
(Post 30833918)
I may be in the minority, but I'm good with them boarding early since it gives a somewhat better likelihood of us actually getting out of there on time. I find when they start boarding "on time" on the mainline planes, half the time they are still boarding by the time we should depart.
Maybe what they really need to do is bump up the departure time to 45 minutes instead of 30 minutes. |
Originally Posted by NYCommuter
(Post 30834978)
No but, sorry, I'm not sympathetic, except for the rudeness of the agent. I'd love it if flights boarded right when boarding was to start and if they closed the door and departed as soon as possible.
So what's the point of publishing departure times in schedules? "Hey, we'll just depart whenever we're ready! If you're not there, too bad!" This T-10, T-15, D0, WXYZ garbage is annoying. Agree with a post upthread that suggested cutting things off AT departure time. Then they can have 10 minutes to clear standbys and get the plane out. Build it into the ARRIVAL times for chrissake. Would be so much easier for consumers. |
Reading this reminds me of how screwed up air travel is in the US between this latest nonsense, the inevitable sitting on the tarmac forever...ugh.
Every European flight I take boards 30 minutes in advance (with a few exceptions). How is it that these flights can properly board in that timeframe and AA flights cannot? |
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