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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 12:25 pm
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Gate checking vs valet checking a bag.... when, how?

Hi.

After a a bit of help.

Flying business/first YYZ-CLT-MIA next week and the first leg is on a CRJ-900 connecting on to a (internationally configured) 757. I want to travel hand baggage only but will have the full size so wondering about whether it will fit on the CRJ?

if not, I assume I will end up gate checking it? And if so, where do I collect it? Is it on the jet bridge at CLT?

only reason I care is that the subsequent flight in to MIA lands at 00.40 and Id like to be able to just go straight to hotel and not wait at a carousel.

Any my help from those familiar with the process would be great!!
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 1:07 pm
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Don't gate check with the gate agent. Valet check at the bottom of the jetbridge. It will be delivered back to the jetbridge at your CR9 destination. There's usually a pink tank from the gate agent for that.
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Don't gate check with the gate agent. Valet check at the bottom of the jetbridge. It will be delivered back to the jetbridge at your CR9 destination. There's usually a pink tank from the gate agent for that.
many thanks.

Excuse my my ignorance but what is valet checking and how does it differ from gate checking?
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Originally Posted by Hawes7701


many thanks.

Excuse my my ignorance but what is valet checking and how does it differ from gate checking?
Hi,

Gate checking will be done at the podium in the terminal before the boarding pass scanner and going down the jetway. ( bags will be tagged to final destination and will go to baggage reclaim)

Valet checking will be done prior to boarding the aircraft as the overheads on the regional jet are smaller and bags wil be put on a cart. At arrival the bags will be loaded onto another cart and will be brought round and you collect them before going into the terminal building

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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot
Hi,

Gate checking will be done at the podium in the terminal before the boarding pass scanner and going down the jetway. ( bags will be tagged to final destination and will go to baggage reclaim)

Valet checking will be done prior to boarding the aircraft as the overheads on the regional jet are smaller and bags wil be put on a cart. At arrival the bags will be loaded onto another cart and will be brought round and you collect them before going into the terminal building

Regards

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brilliant. Thanks for clarifying.

1 last question for those that know. Given that my carryon will be full size, will they let me me get as far as the plane to valet check the bag or is it likely they will identify its size at the gate and do it there?

sorry for the questions - just trying to preempt outcomes and plan accordingly.
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Hi,

I will leave that to experts to answer as I do not fly on AA that often but I belive they will let you get to the plane to valet check( they may attach the valet check tag whilst you are waiting to go through the podium) and there will be a lot of people with bags for valet probably.

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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot
Hi,

I will leave that to experts to answer as I do not fly on AA that often but I belive they will let you get to the plane to valet check( they may attach the valet check tag whilst you are waiting to go through the podium) and there will be a lot of people with bags for valet probably.

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TBS.

Many thanks. That makes sense.

if anyone else has first hand knowledge Id love to know.
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AA always seems to provide for valet checking on Canadair and E 14X series jets where the overheads are so small that not even standard roll-aboards will fit into the overheads.
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 2:28 pm
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TBS.

Many thanks. That makes sense.

if anyone else has first hand knowledge I’d love to know.
Gate Checking will tag it through to the final destination as hold baggage. You’ll not see it again until you arrive at your destination, generally speaking (separate ticketing and long connections over 12 hours will require retrieving the gate-checked bag and checking it in again).

Valet checking they’ll generally give you a tag to affix and often either have you position the bag on a trolley or area or take the bag down the jetway to the ground ladder door. These bags will generally be brought up the ground ladder to you while you remain waiting in the jetway outside of the cabin door. At some locations they’ll bring a cart with the valet bags and you retrieve them from that (e.g. LAX Eagle’s Nest or smaller airports where you disembark onto the apron).

Then you proceed airside normally to your ne t flight with the valet bag now cabin baggage, as your next flight is on a 75L.
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
Gate Checking will tag it through to the final destination as hold baggage. Youll not see it again until you arrive at your destination, generally speaking (separate ticketing and long connections over 12 hours will require retrieving the gate-checked bag and checking it in again).

Valet checking theyll generally give you a tag to affix and often either have you position the bag on a trolley or area or take the bag down the jetway to the ground ladder door. These bags will generally be brought up the ground ladder to you while you remain waiting in the jetway outside of the cabin door. At some locations theyll bring a cart with the valet bags and you retrieve them from that (e.g. LAX Eagles Nest or smaller airports where you disembark onto the apron).

Then you proceed airside normally to your ne t flight with the valet bag now cabin baggage, as your next flight is on a 75L.
thank you so much. Makes my plans much simpler as its going to be a long day.

Starts at 05.00 at London Luton airport with an easyJet flight to Amsterdam. Then trying out Jet Airways first class to YYZ concluding with the two AA flights mentioned here.

Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Hawes7701


TBS.

Many thanks. That makes sense.

if anyone else has first hand knowledge I’d love to know.
If it's a qualifying carry-on - meeting the max dimensions for carry-on published by AA

CORRECTEDCarry-on requirements
  • Shouldn’t exceed 22 x 14 x 9 inches / 56 x 36 x 23 centimeters (including handles and wheels)
  • Must fit in the sizer at the airport

they will let you through security and out to the gate.

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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
If it's a qualifying carry-on - meeting the max dimensions for carry-on published by AA

Dimensions should not exceed 18 x 14 x 8 inches (45 x 35 x 20 cm ).

they will let you through security and out to the gate.
many thanks although I think the dimensions you quote are for the personal item and not the carryon.

The carryon dimensions state.
  • Shouldnt exceed 22 x 14 x 9 inches / 56 x 36 x 23 centimeters (including handles and wheels)
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A regular size rollaboard carry-on bag does fit in the overhead of the newer CRJ-900 / CR9 (as compared to the CRJ-200 / CR2 and E145, where it definitely does not fit). My luggage is 21 x 14 x 9 inches and it does fit in the CR9 overheads, although it is a tight squeeze, there is no room to spare. Two bags of the specified dimension fit lengthwise per bin.

On Delta the GA will let you board the CR9 with this size bag, especially if seated in F (they tend to gate check later in the boarding process and obviously oversize bags). But on AA, they tend to give a gate tag to everyone and insist that it will not fit, presumably because they don't want to be bothered to use the sizer and a lot of bags that people bring are too big. I have seen limited success on AA with people taking the gate tag and then ignoring it and boarding the plane anyway. Your odds of this are better if seated in F as you board first and put it up right away and there is no question it fits. But you will occasionally be told by a FA at the door to the plane that no roller bags are allowed on the plane at all. In that case, what others have said about gate checking vs valet checking is true-- you will be given the chance to valet check your bag, and it is not worth arguing. Thus the only question is whether you will be able to bring the bag on the plane or retrieve it in the jet bridge, you will not have it sent to the carousel.

To be clear, what I am saying only applies to truly "legit" carry-on bags that meet the dimensions and fit comfortably in the sizer, not some of the enormous/expandable bags with crap sticking out in every direction, that "fit" in a mainline plane.
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 9:08 pm
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One other point - make sure you get a 1st Class Valet tag, if it's available. In theory, they pull these bags and bring to the door upon arrival before the rest of the valet bags.
It's been awhile since I've done it and don't recall exactly if it's a different color (seem to recall that they were?)
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Originally Posted by wetrat0
A regular size rollaboard carry-on bag does fit in the overhead of the newer CRJ-900 / CR9 (as compared to the CRJ-200 / CR2 and E145, where it definitely does not fit). My luggage is 21 x 14 x 9 inches and it does fit in the CR9 overheads, although it is a tight squeeze, there is no room to spare. Two bags of the specified dimension fit lengthwise per bin.

On Delta the GA will let you board the CR9 with this size bag, especially if seated in F (they tend to gate check later in the boarding process and obviously oversize bags). But on AA, they tend to give a gate tag to everyone and insist that it will not fit, presumably because they don't want to be bothered to use the sizer and a lot of bags that people bring are too big. I have seen limited success on AA with people taking the gate tag and then ignoring it and boarding the plane anyway. Your odds of this are better if seated in F as you board first and put it up right away and there is no question it fits. But you will occasionally be told by a FA at the door to the plane that no roller bags are allowed on the plane at all. In that case, what others have said about gate checking vs valet checking is true-- you will be given the chance to valet check your bag, and it is not worth arguing. Thus the only question is whether you will be able to bring the bag on the plane or retrieve it in the jet bridge, you will not have it sent to the carousel.

To be clear, what I am saying only applies to truly "legit" carry-on bags that meet the dimensions and fit comfortably in the sizer, not some of the enormous/expandable bags with crap sticking out in every direction, that "fit" in a mainline plane.
thanks for this. Good to know.

The actual valet checking isnt an issue. My concern was that it would end up at final destination and I would have to wait for at the carousel.

As long as I get it back in CLT I will be happy!!

thanks to all who have commented. This really is such a great resource to get answer to what are - often - obscure but relevant questions.
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