Major schedule change coming in September, another in October 2016 (consolidated)
Sep 4, 2016, 10:12 am
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Might not be the correct thread, but the schedule change impacts my DFW-MAD-BCN trip next March. It cuts the connection time in MAD down to 65 minutes. From looking at the Iberia website, that looks like it is still sufficient, but I thought I dug up an old AA table that showed MCT at MAD was over 120 minutes.
Any input from those that have been through MAD?
thanks
Any input from those that have been through MAD?
thanks
Sep 4, 2016, 10:23 am
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Might not be the correct thread, but the schedule change impacts my DFW-MAD-BCN trip next March. It cuts the connection time in MAD down to 65 minutes. From looking at the Iberia website, that looks like it is still sufficient, but I thought I dug up an old AA table that showed MCT at MAD was over 120 minutes.
Any input from those that have been through MAD?
thanks
Any input from those that have been through MAD?
thanks
Sep 4, 2016, 11:02 am
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I just talked to a former America West (current American Airlines) captain about this. He talked about how more often than not the current ground service situation at LAX for AA leaves more ground time than flight time for the PHX-LAX flights.
He said it wasn't entirely due to gate space but it was exacerbated by the fact that contractors could not get enough ground staff hired due to the long lead times on government training for ground personnel.
Obviously gate space is the major issue for AA at LAX, but it seems other problems are making the overall situation even worse.
He said it wasn't entirely due to gate space but it was exacerbated by the fact that contractors could not get enough ground staff hired due to the long lead times on government training for ground personnel.
Obviously gate space is the major issue for AA at LAX, but it seems other problems are making the overall situation even worse.
I've done a couple PHX-LAX round trips over the last few weeks. They seem to be really hustling to get the flights in and out on time, but LAX is such an operational mess (in general, for all airlines) that things like taxiing to your gate (even when its open) can take an eternity.
A couple other things to note - AA thought they were doing everyone a favor by moving the Eagle's Nest access from T4 to T6 (gates 60A-I). But that boarding area immediately adjacent to gate 60 is an absolute madhouse, without the space to hold all the passengers bound for the Eagle's Nest. At least in T4, the waiting room was downstairs, so those passengers were separated from the rest of the concourse.
And for all the talk of the demise of the PHX hub, looking around the boarding area its incredible to see how many LAX originating passengers are still connecting to their final destination over PHX.
Sep 4, 2016, 11:05 am
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A route that MrsDallas49er and I, have continually travelled, and will travel on AA bi-monthly until 1/10/17.
How did you discover this?
1. Checking your flights on AA.com under "My trips"? (I have EF aircraft change alerts set up, and FlightView goes crazy when a flight number gets changed).
2. Reviewing schedules on AA.com on your travel days and city pairings?
3. EF alert?
4. You tell me.
Thank you in advance
OBTW-We avoid ORD whenever possible, prefer MIA as our hub of choice, and were VERY PLEASANTLY surprised last month on LUS #754 with LUS crew PHL-CDG.
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How did you discover this?
1. Checking your flights on AA.com under "My trips"? (I have EF aircraft change alerts set up, and FlightView goes crazy when a flight number gets changed).
2. Reviewing schedules on AA.com on your travel days and city pairings?
3. EF alert?
4. You tell me.
Thank you in advance
OBTW-We avoid ORD whenever possible, prefer MIA as our hub of choice, and were VERY PLEASANTLY surprised last month on LUS #754 with LUS crew PHL-CDG.
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1. I checked EF first and saw that there was no longer a direct flight
2. I checked My Trip at AA.com and saw that my flight had been changed.
3. I note that the flight AA 49 is shown for all days except Tuesday BUT all F is shown as 0 available and a dummy booking shows No Availability in F. Make of that what you will.
4. Came back here to post what had happened and to thank JonNYC
You are welcome and your thoughts are appreciated. I may ask them to put me on the Monday non-stop as I can visit friends in Dallas.
Sep 4, 2016, 11:26 am
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Have things settled down yet?
The reason I ask is when looking at the new options, the coach price on 12/5 for LAX-MIA RT is pricing very high in Y ($765) for the flights I was put on/want to be on, but the flights for other times is $290.
Any thoughts on whether I should wait a day or so before changing back or do it now? (I always go on the 77W, which was moved from 11am to 9am, and they put me on a 321 instead).
The reason I ask is when looking at the new options, the coach price on 12/5 for LAX-MIA RT is pricing very high in Y ($765) for the flights I was put on/want to be on, but the flights for other times is $290.
Any thoughts on whether I should wait a day or so before changing back or do it now? (I always go on the 77W, which was moved from 11am to 9am, and they put me on a 321 instead).
Sep 4, 2016, 11:31 am
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Have things settled down yet?
The reason I ask is when looking at the new options, the coach price on 12/5 for LAX-MIA RT is pricing very high in Y ($765) for the flights I was put on/want to be on, but the flights for other times is $290.
Any thoughts on whether I should wait a day or so before changing back or do it now? (I always go on the 77W, which was moved from 11am to 9am, and they put me on a 321 instead).
The reason I ask is when looking at the new options, the coach price on 12/5 for LAX-MIA RT is pricing very high in Y ($765) for the flights I was put on/want to be on, but the flights for other times is $290.
Any thoughts on whether I should wait a day or so before changing back or do it now? (I always go on the 77W, which was moved from 11am to 9am, and they put me on a 321 instead).
Unless, of course, one sees "unique opportunities"
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Sep 4, 2016, 11:35 am
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Thanks again!
The two flights I wanted to change (to save change fees) didn't. I assume that the October changes will be finished after this round but February could get shaken up again?
The two flights I wanted to change (to save change fees) didn't. I assume that the October changes will be finished after this round but February could get shaken up again?
Sep 4, 2016, 11:37 am
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Might not be the correct thread, but the schedule change impacts my DFW-MAD-BCN trip next March. It cuts the connection time in MAD down to 65 minutes. From looking at the Iberia website, that looks like it is still sufficient, but I thought I dug up an old AA table that showed MCT at MAD was over 120 minutes.
Any input from those that have been through MAD?
thanks
Any input from those that have been through MAD?
thanks
Sep 4, 2016, 11:40 am
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Easy. I read this thread and went and checked. I have EF but had not set an alert as this is not until late February. The non-stop is still operational on Mondays and Wednesdays - sorry I haven't checked anything else.
1. I checked EF first and saw that there was no longer a direct flight
2. I checked My Trip at AA.com and saw that my flight had been changed.
3. I note that the flight AA 49 is shown for all days except Tuesday BUT all F is shown as 0 available and a dummy booking shows No Availability in F. Make of that what you will.
4. Came back here to post what had happened and to thank JonNYC
You are welcome and your thoughts are appreciated. I may ask them to put me on the Monday non-stop as I can visit friends in Dallas.
1. I checked EF first and saw that there was no longer a direct flight
2. I checked My Trip at AA.com and saw that my flight had been changed.
3. I note that the flight AA 49 is shown for all days except Tuesday BUT all F is shown as 0 available and a dummy booking shows No Availability in F. Make of that what you will.
4. Came back here to post what had happened and to thank JonNYC
You are welcome and your thoughts are appreciated. I may ask them to put me on the Monday non-stop as I can visit friends in Dallas.
Sep 4, 2016, 11:42 am
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Thanks JonNYC for posting this - my JFK-LAX-HKG outbound flights had changed.
I was originally on a 7 pm to LAX, but aa moved me to the new 8pm with the later 193 departure. I called aa and got back on the 7 pm instead of having a 49 minute connection in LAX
I was originally on a 7 pm to LAX, but aa moved me to the new 8pm with the later 193 departure. I called aa and got back on the 7 pm instead of having a 49 minute connection in LAX
Sep 4, 2016, 12:01 pm
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Nice move, glad it helped!
Sep 4, 2016, 12:04 pm
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This is almost certainly the case - especially for PHX-LAX flights that take off to the west and and land to the west ... and don't require any circling around.
I've done a couple PHX-LAX round trips over the last few weeks. They seem to be really hustling to get the flights in and out on time, but LAX is such an operational mess (in general, for all airlines) that things like taxiing to your gate (even when its open) can take an eternity.
A couple other things to note - AA thought they were doing everyone a favor by moving the Eagle's Nest access from T4 to T6 (gates 60A-I). But that boarding area immediately adjacent to gate 60 is an absolute madhouse, without the space to hold all the passengers bound for the Eagle's Nest. At least in T4, the waiting room was downstairs, so those passengers were separated from the rest of the concourse.
And for all the talk of the demise of the PHX hub, looking around the boarding area its incredible to see how many LAX originating passengers are still connecting to their final destination over PHX.
I've done a couple PHX-LAX round trips over the last few weeks. They seem to be really hustling to get the flights in and out on time, but LAX is such an operational mess (in general, for all airlines) that things like taxiing to your gate (even when its open) can take an eternity.
A couple other things to note - AA thought they were doing everyone a favor by moving the Eagle's Nest access from T4 to T6 (gates 60A-I). But that boarding area immediately adjacent to gate 60 is an absolute madhouse, without the space to hold all the passengers bound for the Eagle's Nest. At least in T4, the waiting room was downstairs, so those passengers were separated from the rest of the concourse.
And for all the talk of the demise of the PHX hub, looking around the boarding area its incredible to see how many LAX originating passengers are still connecting to their final destination over PHX.
PHX and LAX will likely operate similar to JFK/LGA and PHL do (except without intercontinental flights). LAX will have the intercontinental flights as well as non-stops to key O/D domestic markets and PHX will have regional flights as well as lower yielding flights and just enough nonstop service to prevent PHX based O/D traffic to move to other airlines.
Sep 4, 2016, 12:57 pm
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A couple adds out of PHX to SAF and FSD. I knew SAF was right around the corner, but FSD took me a bit by surprise. Either way I'm loving all the new markets out of PHX recently!
Sep 4, 2016, 12:57 pm
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Might not be the correct thread, but the schedule change impacts my DFW-MAD-BCN trip next March. It cuts the connection time in MAD down to 65 minutes. From looking at the Iberia website, that looks like it is still sufficient, but I thought I dug up an old AA table that showed MCT at MAD was over 120 minutes.
Any input from those that have been through MAD?
thanks
Any input from those that have been through MAD?
thanks
Sep 4, 2016, 1:05 pm
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I don't believe the PHX hub is going anywhere. The PHX airport authority will do whatever it can to make AA happy and there is a growing population and economy in the PHX area. Will the hub be restructured, absolutely. However, I believe we're already seeing the future of PHX with new nonstop RJ service added over the past year to secondary markets such as EGE, FSD, MAF, MEM, LBB, RDM, SAF, SGU.
PHX and LAX will likely operate similar to JFK/LGA and PHL do (except without intercontinental flights). LAX will have the intercontinental flights as well as non-stops to key O/D domestic markets and PHX will have regional flights as well as lower yielding flights and just enough nonstop service to prevent PHX based O/D traffic to move to other airlines.
PHX and LAX will likely operate similar to JFK/LGA and PHL do (except without intercontinental flights). LAX will have the intercontinental flights as well as non-stops to key O/D domestic markets and PHX will have regional flights as well as lower yielding flights and just enough nonstop service to prevent PHX based O/D traffic to move to other airlines.
AA is also opening a 738 pilot base in PHX, which isn't a move you would expect if AA has plans to slash and burn the hub.