Aug 19, 2016, 9:47 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
Boeing 757-200 CIP with Rockwell Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel J seat
The first AA Boeing 757-200 with 16 Rockwell Collins (B/E Aerospace) Diamond Parallel seat in business class entered service on September 1, 2016. These replaced the "NGBC" seats used in the "75L" transatlantic 757, and the B/E Aerospace / Rockwell Collins Diamond seat is the same used in the A321T three class transcon in business class.
The Diamond shell seat in the horizontally flat position is not quite long enough for tall people. Those over six feet /183 cm will find they need to sleep in a drawn up legs. The window side seat foot well is narrower than the aisle seat foot well, and the window side will not accommodate two large (13 or European 46) size feet. Window seat passengers will have to step over the aisle seat passenger if that person is sleeping reclined flat.
See the American Fleet Site (not AA affiliated) here for state of fleet conversion.
The new configuration is 16 Business, 160 combined (108) Main Cabin and (52) Main Cabin Extra seats. There are 24 remaining (all Legacy American Airlines) 757-200s converted to the “75L” “international” version.
(There are 10 Legacy US Airways “East” 757-200s converted to 12F/176Y (including MCE) Hawaii service aircraft, based in PHX.) All other AA 757-200s have been withdrawn from AA service.
There is no in seat AVOD or WiFi served IFE installed on these planes (tablets are distributed to Business passengers along with B&O noise-reducing headsets on International flights).
In flight Panasonic satellite-based WiFi is offered for a fee.
The seat in Y have been reupholstered with "pleather", a plastic-based simulated leather.
J has two 5 1.1 amp VDC USB ports and 110 VAC universal power ports at each seat. MCE has power.
See post #1 or #123 for photographs (courtesy of CMK10 and Australian Business Traveller)
Historical:
Link to CONFIRMED: American’s First Boeing 757 International Lie Flat Business Seat Being Installed Now, by Gary Leff on August 19, 2016. Photos.
See here for Interior Photos
AA 757 "75L" with R/C - B/E Diamond Business seat (master thread)
May 22, 2017, 1:19 pm
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May 22, 2017, 1:21 pm
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It's not actually in the contract of carriage. It's in the International tariff, which is effectively an international version of the CoC.
That said, these seats are totally fine, especially for two people traveling together, unless one person is particularly tall with big feet. However, in that case, you'd have the same issues with the 763 seats. Further however, the bulkhead row in both configs will have somewhat wider footwells.
If you still want to change, you'll be offered a refund, and/or you can try to rebook via LHR or something, but that would just be a waste of time IMO. Pretty sure they'll charge you for any fare differential however.
That said, these seats are totally fine, especially for two people traveling together, unless one person is particularly tall with big feet. However, in that case, you'd have the same issues with the 763 seats. Further however, the bulkhead row in both configs will have somewhat wider footwells.
If you still want to change, you'll be offered a refund, and/or you can try to rebook via LHR or something, but that would just be a waste of time IMO. Pretty sure they'll charge you for any fare differential however.
May 22, 2017, 2:42 pm
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Had my CLT-JFK last Friday and rather enjoyed it having done dozens of flights on this route across the various other shorthaul equipment in the last few years. Was my first time in this seat outside of the 321T.
I assume the USB in the "PTV hole" is used to power the PTV on international flights?
Interestingly for as far as collecting my BPs before my connecting flight to CLT (around 5hrs before departure) I was still the only pre-assigned seat. Of course it went out full.
I assume the USB in the "PTV hole" is used to power the PTV on international flights?
Interestingly for as far as collecting my BPs before my connecting flight to CLT (around 5hrs before departure) I was still the only pre-assigned seat. Of course it went out full.
May 22, 2017, 7:49 pm
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It's not actually in the contract of carriage. It's in the International tariff, which is effectively an international version of the CoC.
That said, these seats are totally fine, especially for two people traveling together, unless one person is particularly tall with big feet. However, in that case, you'd have the same issues with the 763 seats. Further however, the bulkhead row in both configs will have somewhat wider footwells.
If you still want to change, you'll be offered a refund, and/or you can try to rebook via LHR or something, but that would just be a waste of time IMO. Pretty sure they'll charge you for any fare differential however.
That said, these seats are totally fine, especially for two people traveling together, unless one person is particularly tall with big feet. However, in that case, you'd have the same issues with the 763 seats. Further however, the bulkhead row in both configs will have somewhat wider footwells.
If you still want to change, you'll be offered a refund, and/or you can try to rebook via LHR or something, but that would just be a waste of time IMO. Pretty sure they'll charge you for any fare differential however.
May 22, 2017, 7:55 pm
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ijgordon makes an excellent point: while I too would prefer the 767 for trans-oceanic travel really because of that 'wide-body' feel, we've taken AA's 757 to CDG and BRU in J several times and it's really not that bad at all if you are a party of two. IIRC, service has been pretty attentive too; what with the small cabin and all.
May 23, 2017, 5:37 am
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Thanks for all your advice - so the consensus from the Cognoscenti is that the 757 is fine and I don't have to start long phone calls with anyone. Who knows? - with AA at the moment by September the timing and the aircraft could have changed yet again. I might have asked for the flight to PHL but I'd far rather a non-stop if possible.
Thank you again for your help.
Thank you again for your help.
May 23, 2017, 7:52 am
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Flew N194AA May 18 CUN-DFW, picked up the last 2 first seats at the gate, as a sticker upgrade.
Flight was delayed more than 5 hours, 2 trips back to the gate - first time due to a sticky hydraulic valve, second due to fuel pump issues. Delay was compounded by passengers bailing out of the flight, changing weight and balance, ground crew removing their luggage.
In the confusion, FC FA burned the nuts and rolls.
In hindsight, it was a wise decision to burn 6 stickers for what should have been a less than 3 hour flight.
Flight was delayed more than 5 hours, 2 trips back to the gate - first time due to a sticky hydraulic valve, second due to fuel pump issues. Delay was compounded by passengers bailing out of the flight, changing weight and balance, ground crew removing their luggage.
In the confusion, FC FA burned the nuts and rolls.
In hindsight, it was a wise decision to burn 6 stickers for what should have been a less than 3 hour flight.
May 23, 2017, 8:25 am
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Flew N194AA May 18 CUN-DFW, picked up the last 2 first seats at the gate, as a sticker upgrade.
Flight was delayed more than 5 hours, 2 trips back to the gate - first time due to a sticky hydraulic valve, second due to fuel pump issues. Delay was compounded by passengers bailing out of the flight, changing weight and balance, ground crew removing their luggage.
In the confusion, FC FA burned the nuts and rolls.
In hindsight, it was a wise decision to burn 6 stickers for what should have been a less than 3 hour flight.
Flight was delayed more than 5 hours, 2 trips back to the gate - first time due to a sticky hydraulic valve, second due to fuel pump issues. Delay was compounded by passengers bailing out of the flight, changing weight and balance, ground crew removing their luggage.
In the confusion, FC FA burned the nuts and rolls.
In hindsight, it was a wise decision to burn 6 stickers for what should have been a less than 3 hour flight.
May 31, 2017, 3:57 pm
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is there an update on the number of 757s retrofitted and their tail #s ?
Flying LIM-DFW and was hoping to get one.
Flying LIM-DFW and was hoping to get one.
https://sites.google.com/site/newame...boeing-757-200
Jun 1, 2017, 10:02 am
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awesome! thanks!
I hope i get a new one
I hope i get a new one
See link below, still 9 TA birds in old config.
https://sites.google.com/site/newame...boeing-757-200
https://sites.google.com/site/newame...boeing-757-200
Jun 20, 2017, 7:51 am
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Does anyone have recent experience with this flight path and know if it will have new configuration? Seat map shows 16 in J, but I know there are two configurations with 16, one new and one old. Looked at tail numbers for recent flight and compared them to the upgrade wiki and looks like they are, but can't be sure. Are Caribbean routes using the new 75L layouts?? Thanks for the help!
Jun 21, 2017, 10:31 am
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Anyone aware of what the policy is regarding being reccaomodated on an alternative routing if a non-lieflat aircraft gets put on a transatlantic route.
Interestingly, AA.com advertises the 757 as having lie flat seats so flying one of the slopey seats on a tranatlantic seems to run counter to this.
Interestingly, AA.com advertises the 757 as having lie flat seats so flying one of the slopey seats on a tranatlantic seems to run counter to this.