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Boeing 757-200 CIP with Rockwell Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel J seat
The first AA Boeing 757-200 with 16 Rockwell Collins (B/E Aerospace) Diamond Parallel seat in business class entered service on September 1, 2016. These replaced the "NGBC" seats used in the "75L" transatlantic 757, and the B/E Aerospace / Rockwell Collins Diamond seat is the same used in the A321T three class transcon in business class.
The Diamond shell seat in the horizontally flat position is not quite long enough for tall people. Those over six feet /183 cm will find they need to sleep in a drawn up legs. The window side seat foot well is narrower than the aisle seat foot well, and the window side will not accommodate two large (13 or European 46) size feet. Window seat passengers will have to step over the aisle seat passenger if that person is sleeping reclined flat.
See the American Fleet Site (not AA affiliated) here for state of fleet conversion.
The new configuration is 16 Business, 160 combined (108) Main Cabin and (52) Main Cabin Extra seats. There are 24 remaining (all Legacy American Airlines) 757-200s converted to the “75L” “international” version.
(There are 10 Legacy US Airways “East” 757-200s converted to 12F/176Y (including MCE) Hawaii service aircraft, based in PHX.) All other AA 757-200s have been withdrawn from AA service.
There is no in seat AVOD or WiFi served IFE installed on these planes (tablets are distributed to Business passengers along with B&O noise-reducing headsets on International flights).
In flight Panasonic satellite-based WiFi is offered for a fee.
The seat in Y have been reupholstered with "pleather", a plastic-based simulated leather.
J has two 5 1.1 amp VDC USB ports and 110 VAC universal power ports at each seat. MCE has power.
See post #1 or #123 for photographs (courtesy of CMK10 and Australian Business Traveller)
Historical:
Link to CONFIRMED: American’s First Boeing 757 International Lie Flat Business Seat Being Installed Now, by Gary Leff on August 19, 2016. Photos.
See here for Interior Photos
AA 757 "75L" with R/C - B/E Diamond Business seat (master thread)
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No IFE neother tablet in Business?
Hi
I was on AA64 MIA JFK ZRH. The F/As on MIA JFK 75L told me that the tablets are only for "international passengers" so they would not be handing them out.
Is this the rule or did they pull a quick one to reduce their workload?
Thanks.
I was on AA64 MIA JFK ZRH. The F/As on MIA JFK 75L told me that the tablets are only for "international passengers" so they would not be handing them out.
Is this the rule or did they pull a quick one to reduce their workload?
Thanks.
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And on the 76R which also has no built-in AVOD.
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Is there any differentiation any longer between domestic vs. international B757 configurations? Reading through a couple threads on here, I guess I'm still a little confused regarding LUS vs. LAA 757s, as well as the "east" vs. "west" aircraft. Looking at the AA.com planes site, it says there are only two 757 configurations in service - one with 16F lie-flats and another with 12F standard. However, not that long ago I was on what I believe to be a different version, (probably LUS) from PHL-PIT that had 12 lie flats up front.
The reason for my inquiry is that I have a couple PHL-LAS trips coming up in the next few months, and they've added a daily PHL-LAS-PHL flight (2252) a few days a week on a 757 with 16F and what looks to be a full complement of MCE seats. If I'm understanding everything correctly, I believe this means those F seats will be lie flat, but can anyone confirm? I've had pretty good success getting my EXP upgrades to clear on this route, would definitely pick this flight for a chance to cross country in a lie flat vs. the standard LUS-A321 seats, but I know being located in PHL it seems that we always end up with LUS planes and these new 757s seem like LAA versions, so I wasn't sure if there was some odd domestic configuration still out there. Thanks for your help!
The reason for my inquiry is that I have a couple PHL-LAS trips coming up in the next few months, and they've added a daily PHL-LAS-PHL flight (2252) a few days a week on a 757 with 16F and what looks to be a full complement of MCE seats. If I'm understanding everything correctly, I believe this means those F seats will be lie flat, but can anyone confirm? I've had pretty good success getting my EXP upgrades to clear on this route, would definitely pick this flight for a chance to cross country in a lie flat vs. the standard LUS-A321 seats, but I know being located in PHL it seems that we always end up with LUS planes and these new 757s seem like LAA versions, so I wasn't sure if there was some odd domestic configuration still out there. Thanks for your help!
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Is there any differentiation any longer between domestic vs. international B757 configurations? Reading through a couple threads on here, I guess I'm still a little confused regarding LUS vs. LAA 757s, as well as the "east" vs. "west" aircraft. Looking at the AA.com planes site, it says there are only two 757 configurations in service - one with 16F lie-flats and another with 12F standard. However, not that long ago I was on what I believe to be a different version, (probably LUS) from PHL-PIT that had 12 lie flats up front.
The reason for my inquiry is that I have a couple PHL-LAS trips coming up in the next few months, and they've added a daily PHL-LAS-PHL flight (2252) a few days a week on a 757 with 16F and what looks to be a full complement of MCE seats. If I'm understanding everything correctly, I believe this means those F seats will be lie flat, but can anyone confirm? I've had pretty good success getting my EXP upgrades to clear on this route, would definitely pick this flight for a chance to cross country in a lie flat vs. the standard LUS-A321 seats, but I know being located in PHL it seems that we always end up with LUS planes and these new 757s seem like LAA versions, so I wasn't sure if there was some odd domestic configuration still out there. Thanks for your help!
The reason for my inquiry is that I have a couple PHL-LAS trips coming up in the next few months, and they've added a daily PHL-LAS-PHL flight (2252) a few days a week on a 757 with 16F and what looks to be a full complement of MCE seats. If I'm understanding everything correctly, I believe this means those F seats will be lie flat, but can anyone confirm? I've had pretty good success getting my EXP upgrades to clear on this route, would definitely pick this flight for a chance to cross country in a lie flat vs. the standard LUS-A321 seats, but I know being located in PHL it seems that we always end up with LUS planes and these new 757s seem like LAA versions, so I wasn't sure if there was some odd domestic configuration still out there. Thanks for your help!
12F are LUS birds. Some may still have the non-flat bed international config. But these are all being reconfigured for Hawaii service. They will have 12F and MCE. I am not sure how many have gone through the retrofit.
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Got it. So it appears then that they've moved this LAA 757 international configured plane into the rotation out of PHL for this domestic route to LAS. Is that unusual? I know I've read on here that certain international aircraft have certain routings to get in position for later flights, but it appears this is strictly PHL-LAS-PHL so no out of market positioning. Either way, I've booked two trips where the schedule worked out well, definitely a nice change of pace to the LUS-A321 that dominates this route.
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Looks like N679AN, the last LAA 757 in the domestic configuration (and last in the old livery) was retired to Roswell this morning: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N679AN. This now brings the number of 757 configurations down to only 2: the LAA International and LUS "Hawaii" refurb. At one point, I'm pretty sure AA was flying around with 6 different 757 configurations.
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Looks like N679AN, the last LAA 757 in the domestic configuration (and last in the old livery) was retired to Roswell this morning: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N679AN. This now brings the number of 757 configurations down to only 2: the LAA International and LUS "Hawaii" refurb. At one point, I'm pretty sure AA was flying around with 6 different 757 configurations.
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sad day that these are going away. It was the only plane that had a decent ratio of Y:F seats. The A 321s SHOULD have at least 20 or 24 FC seats, but god knows we'll never see that with the current horrible leadership.
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Looks like N679AN, the last LAA 757 in the domestic configuration (and last in the old livery) was retired to Roswell this morning: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N679AN. This now brings the number of 757 configurations down to only 2: the LAA International and LUS "Hawaii" refurb. At one point, I'm pretty sure AA was flying around with 6 different 757 configurations.
Just for fun, I've listed them here, all of which I believe did overlap at some point concurrently in service:
LUS:
1. LHP, 14F
2. LUS, 12J
3. LUS, 12F
LAA:
4. 22F
5. 24F
6. 16J Recaro
7. 16J B/E
757 roulette seems to be a pretty common occurrence at the remaining majors. Similar numbers of configurations either exist or have recently existed at UA, and especially at DL, which has a shockingly large number of 757 configurations, given all of the re-fit and re-furb programs between the LNW and LDL fleets.
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It isn't that they are reducing their workload, though for consistency they shouldn't be handed out domestically, the tablets are not stored on the aircraft as they are offloaded by catering to be counted, cleaned, and supposedly tested. They're only loaded for appropriate flights for the previous reasons and to save weight.
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Others have pointed out the number of different configurations even on the same aircraft type e.g. A319, 737, 777, A321 and PMUS aircraft not having the same business class there is a focus on product consistency.
As a side note... getting the 767 Y experience up to industry standard is being studied given the timeline for these aircraft staying in the fleet.