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Old Aug 16, 2016, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Kreative03
Slightly off topic then, but does anyone know if you SWU up a reservation for a different FF program -- what's your experience in how many miles are earned in other programs? Asking for a friend
Ask your friend....what?????
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Kreative03
Slightly off topic then, but does anyone know if you SWU up a reservation for a different FF program -- what's your experience in how many miles are earned in other programs? Asking for a friend
It totally depends on the program, and the fare class booked, so tell your friend "more specifics, please, or you might as well be asking 'how high is up?'".

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Old Aug 16, 2016, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Kreative03
Slightly off topic then, but does anyone know if you SWU up a reservation for a different FF program -- what's your experience in how many miles are earned in other programs? Asking for a friend
I think that your friend will need to check the rules of the scheme to which he or she is crediting

On schemes I am aware of, where upgraded using miles/SWU , it will credit as per per the underlying booking class
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
I think that your friend will need to check the rules of the scheme to which he or she is crediting

On schemes I am aware of, where upgraded using miles/SWU , it will credit as per per the underlying booking class
Looking at AA flights, crediting to BAEC. My membership year just started, and I over qualified for EXP, but likely won't do another 40k...so looking to gain tier points. However 20 TP vs 140 (O vs C, for example) is a big jump. It says C earns based on original class(doesn't say if it's avios earnings or TP earnings) but not the same caveat for A.
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 10:33 pm
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You will earn as per the original booking class

Upgrading from economy to business - credit as original economy booking class for TP and Avios
Upgrading from business to first - credit as original business booking class for TP and Avios
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 9:22 am
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I'm wanting to start crediting my AA flights to Alaska as I've been status matched to MVPG 75k. I've been told multiple times by reservations, once I have started a trip (I'm in the middle of a long multi city trip) I cannot change my AAdvantage number to another program.

Anyone know if this is true, or experience otherwise?
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by swimdude92
I'm wanting to start crediting my AA flights to Alaska as I've been status matched to MVPG 75k. I've been told multiple times by reservations, once I have started a trip (I'm in the middle of a long multi city trip) I cannot change my AAdvantage number to another program.

Anyone know if this is true, or experience otherwise?
Just left AAdvantage in the 2nd half of a RTW. No problem changing FFP # at the airport
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Old Feb 26, 2018, 9:11 am
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Can you change the FF# on AA.com AFTER check-in?
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Old Feb 26, 2018, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by dmodemd
Can you change the FF# on AA.com AFTER check-in?
People have been able to change FFN at the gate. Of course, this isn’t a sure thing if the gate is chaotic. On aa.com, it may not be possible.

In any case, changing the FFN and preserving perks that pertain to the original FFN may result in loss of those perks; it’s AA policy.

Originally Posted by DeltaFlyingProf
You can apply your SWU to anybody's booking, including any non-elite friends. So it seems to me that you should not have any issue doing it to your alter-ego, i.e. you with a different FF#. I don't think you'd have any issue if you change it now way before departure.
Older, but the answer to this is: Terrific way to get both accounts closed, lose status and miles.
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Old Feb 26, 2018, 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
Older, but the answer to this is: Terrific way to get both accounts closed, lose status and miles.
I really don't see what the issue is. What I am proposing is breaking no rule whatsoever. You buy a AA ticket and put your BA, CX or whichever account you want. Then you apply the SWU (which can be gifted and doesn't have to be used by the AAdvantage member) on your AA ticket? What rule is that breaking?
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Old Feb 27, 2018, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by DeltaFlyingProf
I really don't see what the issue is. What I am proposing is breaking no rule whatsoever. You buy a AA ticket and put your BA, CX or whichever account you want. Then you apply the SWU (which can be gifted and doesn't have to be used by the AAdvantage member) on your AA ticket? What rule is that breaking?
I think a problem would be if you used your AA status to get priority in the SWU (or another) upgrade process or elite seating (preferred or MCE), and then removed your AA number from the booking.
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Old Feb 27, 2018, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by mvoight
I think a problem would be if you used your AA status to get priority in the SWU (or another) upgrade process or elite seating (preferred or MCE), and then removed your AA number from the booking.
I could see that but usually I call to get a SWU applied only when I see C (or A for J->F) availability on EF. So no use of priority.
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Old Feb 27, 2018, 10:19 am
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The key issue is if you have at any point used any benefit from you AA EXP / OWE status.

If you received a MCE seat assignment (which might not be used), or if used priority check in desk, or if you used your AA FF# to place yourself higher on the upgrade list. Any of those actions means you benefited from your AA status. To receive a benefit from AA without crediting to the AA program is the big no no.

I think if the original reservation is made with NO FF# no CX, no Ba, no QR, no AY number. etc. Reserve with no FF# then apply SWU as gift. That should be OK. Later, best if even after the flight is completed, you can contact your other program and ask for the flight credit.

But never try to game this
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Old Feb 27, 2018, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by cplona
The key issue is if you have at any point used any benefit from you AA EXP / OWE status.

If you received a MCE seat assignment (which might not be used), or if used priority check in desk, or if you used your AA FF# to place yourself higher on the upgrade list. Any of those actions means you benefited from your AA status. To receive a benefit from AA without crediting to the AA program is the big no no.

I think if the original reservation is made with NO FF# no CX, no Ba, no QR, no AY number. etc. Reserve with no FF# then apply SWU as gift. That should be OK. Later, best if even after the flight is completed, you can contact your other program and ask for the flight credit.

But never try to game this
I'm not sure what harm there would be in applying any other FF program # to the reservation before applying the SWU. Unless it is an AA FF#, it would have no impact as far as unwarranted benefits are concerned.
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Old Feb 27, 2018, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by cplona
The key issue is if you have at any point used any benefit from you AA EXP / OWE status.
This is a recurring question, but JonNYC laid down the law for me in these posts. Apparently, in spite of logic, it is just a rule that you cannot apply a SWU to yourself without crediting to AAdv, even if it doesn't benefit from status, and even though you can apply a SWU to someone else who isn't using their AAdv # (or doesn't even have one). Per JonNYC, it is not about whether you make use of waitlist priority (as people seem to think).

It's occurred to me that two people flying on AA, who both have SWUs, can upgrade each other (non-status-based) and credit to another program without violating anything. The fact that it's effectively allowed for two or more in combination, but not for one passenger at a time, is a indication of the illogic.

Originally Posted by cplona
I think if the original reservation is made with NO FF# no CX, no Ba, no QR, no AY number. etc. Reserve with no FF# then apply SWU as gift. That should be OK.
I haven't tried this, but I would suspect that if the agent sees that the name and DOB match and that you are upgrading yourself, your AAdv # would get added somehow.

But this:
Originally Posted by JDiver
Older, but the answer to this is: Terrific way to get both accounts closed, lose status and miles.
sounds implausible to me. Unclear if JDiver was referring to the "friend" scenario or the "alter-ego" scenario. In the former (applying a SWU to someone else who's using a non-AA FF# and may not even be an AAdv member), I don't see any violation of even the strictest rules. Even in the latter (alter-ego), I could see AA rescinding the upgrade or refusing to credit to the other program -- but that AA would close one's account (when JonNYC said heavy enforcement is not the practice here), and that the other airline (whose FF# one tried to use) would know and care so much about a possible obscure violation of AA's rules that they would also close that account (JDiver said "get both accounts closed"), seems hyperbolic.
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