AA.com now itemizing account EQM / EQS (13 Jul 2016)
Jul 14, 2016, 4:00 pm
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Jul 14, 2016, 4:18 pm
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Cool! But why bother with EQSs, I wonder. It's always going to be 1 per flight, no? Unless for those "through" flights, where despite a stop the flight number doesn't change, they at least credit you with 2 segments?
Jul 14, 2016, 4:26 pm
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But yes, in general, I agree that the EQS information is probably redundant.
Jul 14, 2016, 5:03 pm
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Wow. Clears up a lot of discrepancies.
The one remaining "glitch" I have picked up relates to multipliers on flights below 500 miles. Rules say multipliers should apply to 500 mile minimum (for elites).
The one remaining "glitch" I have picked up relates to multipliers on flights below 500 miles. Rules say multipliers should apply to 500 mile minimum (for elites).
- For a domestic F <500miles, the new EQM shown is <1000miles. However, after a lot of triple- and quadruple-checking, I can see that my total mileage reflects the correct 1000 miles. So summing these new EQMs will not necessarily equal your total.
- For a couple of deep discount IB flights (<500miles) credited to AA, they do seem to have followed the rules as currently written: 250 miles (0.5 x 500 minimum) showing for both flights.
Jul 14, 2016, 6:00 pm
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Except that it seems to only do that for AA-marketed flights. I had a several-leg trip purchased from AA where one leg was not AA-marketed. Ended up flying 2 non-AA-marketed due to IROPS. I now see the (same) ticket number for all AA-marketed legs and none for the non-AA. Very odd.
Jul 15, 2016, 2:37 am
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Would have been nice indeed, but if it does still apply, it applies to AA flights only. I can now see why there's been a relatively small but growing discrepancy between my expected and posted EQMs since June (even made me phone AAdvantage to ask whether the EQMs had not posted for certain flights). As I can now see, the reason is that starting in June, BA flights no longer yield a minimum of 500 EQM. The new minimum seems to be 250 (still getting 500+500 RDMs). Very disappointing, but as I don't believe it was ever official policy, I guess they can just change it quietly all they like.
Jul 15, 2016, 3:53 pm
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Except that it seems to only do that for AA-marketed flights. I had a several-leg trip purchased from AA where one leg was not AA-marketed. Ended up flying 2 non-AA-marketed due to IROPS. I now see the (same) ticket number for all AA-marketed legs and none for the non-AA. Very odd.
Jul 17, 2016, 11:00 pm
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Would have been nice indeed, but if it does still apply, it applies to AA flights only. I can now see why there's been a relatively small but growing discrepancy between my expected and posted EQMs since June (even made me phone AAdvantage to ask whether the EQMs had not posted for certain flights). As I can now see, the reason is that starting in June, BA flights no longer yield a minimum of 500 EQM. The new minimum seems to be 250 (still getting 500+500 RDMs). Very disappointing, but as I don't believe it was ever official policy, I guess they can just change it quietly all they like.
EDITED: Never mind, I've discovered they were never actually part of the minimum mileage guarantee.
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Jul 18, 2016, 8:35 am
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Another discovery: JL flights, too, don't yield a minimum of 500 EQM. Moreover, they don't even yield a minimum of 500 RDMs — I just earned actual mileage in both instances.
EDITED: Never mind, I've discovered they were never actually part of the minimum mileage guarantee.
EDITED: Never mind, I've discovered they were never actually part of the minimum mileage guarantee.
Also, remember that the guarantee will continue for EQM but not RDM at that point.
Jul 18, 2016, 9:20 am
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Yes, but my point was that the minimum EQM earning with BA (and presumably the other participating partners) has already been removed. They could do this at any time because, as far as I understand, it was never published.
Jul 18, 2016, 10:21 am
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It was, and still is, published on the Elite benefits page.
I'm curious to know what you're seeing to support "the minimum EQM earning with BA (and presumably the other participating partners) has already been removed".
Others have pointed to changes in the way the guarantee works when the CoS multiplier is small, but that:
- is not partner-only
- is not a removal but a weakening
Is that the change that led to your claim?
I'm curious to know what you're seeing to support "the minimum EQM earning with BA (and presumably the other participating partners) has already been removed".
Others have pointed to changes in the way the guarantee works when the CoS multiplier is small, but that:
- is not partner-only
- is not a removal but a weakening
Is that the change that led to your claim?
Jul 18, 2016, 10:38 am
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It was, and still is, published on the Elite benefits page.
I'm curious to know what you're seeing to support "the minimum EQM earning with BA (and presumably the other participating partners) has already been removed".
Others have pointed to changes in the way the guarantee works when the CoS multiplier is small, but that:
- is not partner-only
- is not a removal but a weakening
Is that the change that led to your claim?
I'm curious to know what you're seeing to support "the minimum EQM earning with BA (and presumably the other participating partners) has already been removed".
Others have pointed to changes in the way the guarantee works when the CoS multiplier is small, but that:
- is not partner-only
- is not a removal but a weakening
Is that the change that led to your claim?
This is not likely to be pertinent for my own requalification this year, but I do find it quite naughty to do it without any notification.
Jul 18, 2016, 1:11 pm
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What I'm seeing is my online AAdvantage statement, now adorned with EQM information. All discount economy short-haul flights with BA up until 5/9 earned 500 EQMs. The same type of flights have earned 250 EQMs from 6/1 onwards (in four instances to date).
This is not likely to be pertinent for my own requalification this year, but I do find it quite naughty to do it without any notification.
This is not likely to be pertinent for my own requalification this year, but I do find it quite naughty to do it without any notification.
ETA: It's irrelevant to AA earning because the multiplier is never less than 1. D'oh.
Last edited by SpammersAreScum; Jul 18, 2016 at 1:24 pm Reason: Cancelling meaningless question