Dec 20, 2015, 10:41 pm
Last edit by: Mwenenzi
AA 73 & 72 LAX / Los Angeles <--> SYD / Sydney (as of 17 Dec 2015)
Was operated with Boeing 77W / 777-323ER to 8 Nov 2017
Changed to Boeing 787-9 in November 2017.
Including lounge, connections information
Was operated with Boeing 77W / 777-323ER to 8 Nov 2017
Changed to Boeing 787-9 in November 2017.
Including lounge, connections information
Initial schedule:
LAX-SYD: 17 Dec 2015 AA 73 Flight duration 15:05
Lv LAX 21:50 Dec 17 PST / 05:50 18 Dec GMT
Ar SYD 07:55 Dec 19 AEDT / 20:55 18 Dec GMT (same day)
SYD-LAX: 19 Dec 2015 AA 72 Flight duration 13:50Ar SYD 07:55 Dec 19 AEDT / 20:55 18 Dec GMT (same day)
Lv SYD 12:00 Dec 19 AEDT / 01:00 19 Dec GMT
Ar LAX 06:50 Dec 19 PST / 14:50 19 Dec GMT
Inaugural flight AA73, operated by Boeing 777-323ER ("77W") N720AN:Ar LAX 06:50 Dec 19 PST / 14:50 19 Dec GMT
2015-12-17 - AA73 - Los Angeles (LAX) STD 21:50 PST ATD 22:15 - Sydney (SYD) STA 07:55 AEDT ATA 07:30 AEDT
From Source Aust BT
American Airlines will shift its Sydney-Los Angeles flights to a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner from November 8, 2017. The advanced jet replaces the larger Boeing 777-300ER and will see first class dropped from the trans-Pacific route, although business travellers on a budget will appreciate the introduction of American Airlines' new premium economy seating on the Boeing 787.
Link to Australian Aviation article
Older archived thread relating to announcement of new LAX-SYD-LAX flight (June 9, 2015) here.
Lounges: by oneworld status, or by class of service - and Admirals Club members flying out on AA (or an AA marketed flight) get to use the QANTAS Business Lounge.
Qantas First Lounge - spa, restaurant: First or oneworld Emerald passengers
Qantas Business Lounge: Business, oneworld Sapphire pax and Admirals Club members
On arrival
Link to Airport info SYDNEY (SYD) - amenities, transfers, transport to FlyerTalk Oceania Forum SYD master thread with extensive wiki.
Connections:
International- no need to collect baggage if allowed by your airline(s), follow flight connections signs to immigration, flight connections desk. If you are not allowed to through check your bags you must process immigration, collect bags, process customs, proceed to the airline Check in areas and process security to get back airside.
Domestic: the domestic terminals 2 and 3 are 2.5 miles / 4 km away. Figure on a half hour at least to transfer, and if you use landside road transfers during high traffic times, longer (airside plan minimum half an hour). Talking about peak times, it can take two hours with queues waiting to board shuttle busses.
If traveling on via Qantas once you're landside after the Duty Free gantlet, follow the signs and go right. You'll eventually arrive at the baggage check facility, process security and take an airside shuttle that will end up with you're being at Gate 15 airside in the QF domestic terminal. It's called "Qantas seamless transfer".
If traveling with other airlines see Here
Link to SYD airport maps, etc.
Link to SYD airport FAQ.
If you wish to overnight close to international terminal 1, see here for a Rydges Sydney Airport stay report and tips.
Historical note: Pan American World Airways was the first American airline offering commercial passenger service to Australia, beginning Feb 1947 to SYD (with several stops), adding MEL in 1958. United acquired Pan Am's Pacific routes, operating them as of Feb 1986.
American Airlines initially operated to Sydney (and later also Melbourne between August 1970 through to March 1974. AA reestablished service with a DC-10 LAX-HNL-SYD return 4x weekly in Feb 1990, but ended that service March 1992.
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AA LAX-SYD-LAX AA73 / AA72 (17 Dec 2015)
Apr 16, 2017, 8:49 am
#587
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Apr 21, 2017, 2:15 pm
#589
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 2,203
Probably the same reason that random days were pulled last fall. Low demand and they pre cxl a few days and move people to other flights
Apr 24, 2017, 6:48 pm
#590
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Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Programs: AA EXP, SPG Plat
Posts: 1,472
I'd agree, but looking at availability around my travel date in December I'm seeing the following on LAX -> SYD:
12/14 - J0
12/15 - J1
12/16 - J0
12/21 - J0
12/22 - J0
I know it is the holiday season, but I'm surprised they have sold/awarded all 30 business class seats this far out.
12/14 - J0
12/15 - J1
12/16 - J0
12/21 - J0
12/22 - J0
I know it is the holiday season, but I'm surprised they have sold/awarded all 30 business class seats this far out.
May 9, 2017, 12:09 am
#592
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 1,786
May not totally be the right thread but curious if anyone has had this issue...
I've been looking to book Phx-Syd departing 8/3 and returning on 8/10. Flying on AA73 works great but the return on AA72 doesn't work for me. I'm looking to book QF73 from Sydney to SFO and then book back to PHX from there.
When searching it is difficult getting this option to come up but using either advanced or multi city I can make it work. My problem lies when it comes time to price it out I am required to contact AA. Anyone know why that might be? All I'm trying to do is make sure the price is comparable to the QF options. I've done this exact itinerary before so I know it can be done.
I've been looking to book Phx-Syd departing 8/3 and returning on 8/10. Flying on AA73 works great but the return on AA72 doesn't work for me. I'm looking to book QF73 from Sydney to SFO and then book back to PHX from there.
When searching it is difficult getting this option to come up but using either advanced or multi city I can make it work. My problem lies when it comes time to price it out I am required to contact AA. Anyone know why that might be? All I'm trying to do is make sure the price is comparable to the QF options. I've done this exact itinerary before so I know it can be done.
May 9, 2017, 8:50 am
#593
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Location: NYC
Posts: 27,239
May not totally be the right thread but curious if anyone has had this issue...
I've been looking to book Phx-Syd departing 8/3 and returning on 8/10. Flying on AA73 works great but the return on AA72 doesn't work for me. I'm looking to book QF73 from Sydney to SFO and then book back to PHX from there.
When searching it is difficult getting this option to come up but using either advanced or multi city I can make it work. My problem lies when it comes time to price it out I am required to contact AA. Anyone know why that might be? All I'm trying to do is make sure the price is comparable to the QF options. I've done this exact itinerary before so I know it can be done.
I've been looking to book Phx-Syd departing 8/3 and returning on 8/10. Flying on AA73 works great but the return on AA72 doesn't work for me. I'm looking to book QF73 from Sydney to SFO and then book back to PHX from there.
When searching it is difficult getting this option to come up but using either advanced or multi city I can make it work. My problem lies when it comes time to price it out I am required to contact AA. Anyone know why that might be? All I'm trying to do is make sure the price is comparable to the QF options. I've done this exact itinerary before so I know it can be done.
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THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
May 9, 2017, 3:28 pm
#594
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 1,786
I think this has to do with the decrease in cooperation between AA/QF after the US DOT denied their application for anti-trust ammunity. Seems as if the lowest fares on your route now have rules like this:
So combining an AA flight and a QF flight is likely to significantly increase the cost. Worst case, you'd need two one-way fares, or separate fares that are combinable on a half round-trip basis. Getting into complicated territory, which is why a call to AA (or a travel agent) would be required.
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THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
May 9, 2017, 4:07 pm
#595
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May 9, 2017, 4:52 pm
#596
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
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May 10, 2017, 6:55 am
#597
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: BNA
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 766
be aware if you book SYD-SFO on QF and SFO-PHX on AA under separate PNRs then you won't be able to interline your luggage. So you'll have to re-check in at SFO after customs. Probably not a big deal but just be aware with connection times, etc.
Also you wouldn't be protected during IRROPS.
Also you wouldn't be protected during IRROPS.
May 10, 2017, 11:39 am
#598
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
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be aware if you book SYD-SFO on QF and SFO-PHX on AA under separate PNRs then you won't be able to interline your luggage. So you'll have to re-check in at SFO after customs. Probably not a big deal but just be aware with connection times, etc.
Also you wouldn't be protected during IRROPS.
Also you wouldn't be protected during IRROPS.
May 10, 2017, 12:46 pm
#599
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: DCA
Programs: AA Executive Platinum
Posts: 2,085
be aware if you book SYD-SFO on QF and SFO-PHX on AA under separate PNRs then you won't be able to interline your luggage. So you'll have to re-check in at SFO after customs. Probably not a big deal but just be aware with connection times, etc.
Also you wouldn't be protected during IRROPS.
Also you wouldn't be protected during IRROPS.
BTW - just a datapoint. CX interlined my bag a couple of weeks ago to my connecting flight to DFW after arriving in HKG from BKK. Additionally, on my outbound trip, AA interlined my bag to MH in HKG when headed to KUL, despite, in both cases, the onward flights not being a codeshare segment and booked on different PNRs.
Last edited by GotCalcio4; May 10, 2017 at 12:58 pm
May 12, 2017, 9:53 pm
#600
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I believe that OTHER oneworld carriers will interline bags TO AA operated flights, regardless of AA's willingness to interline bags to other carriers.
BTW - just a datapoint. CX interlined my bag a couple of weeks ago to my connecting flight to DFW after arriving in HKG from BKK. Additionally, on my outbound trip, AA interlined my bag to MH in HKG when headed to KUL, despite, in both cases, the onward flights not being a codeshare segment and booked on different PNRs.
BTW - just a datapoint. CX interlined my bag a couple of weeks ago to my connecting flight to DFW after arriving in HKG from BKK. Additionally, on my outbound trip, AA interlined my bag to MH in HKG when headed to KUL, despite, in both cases, the onward flights not being a codeshare segment and booked on different PNRs.
Some will like CX (who changed there policy). Other will not like, BA & QF.
OW forum thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...d-threads.html
But it can depend on the check in agent. Some overide the airline policy.