FA permitting a "self upgrade" to MCE/exit row after boarding door closes
Nov 21, 2017, 9:30 am
#166
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Comfort plus on DL is a separate booking class. W is different from all other fare buckets. Specific overhead storage bins are reserved for C+ PAX. On longer domestic flights it comes with complimentary Cocktails.
That is completely different from AA's MCE and should not be compared.
That is completely different from AA's MCE and should not be compared.
I think there are just differing fundamental viewpoints about this topic that no amount of justification with respect to the argument of either side will solve. Like any number of social issues that are increasingly fracturing our country. But hopefully not as bad.
Nov 21, 2017, 1:10 pm
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Except that isn't what's happening here at all. Go to the store and pay for a regular sized bag of M&Ms then try to walk out with a king size bag. That's a more accurate comparison.
AA needs to outline an actual policy regarding MCE and then enforce it. Every other airline that offers an extended economy product does this.
AA needs to outline an actual policy regarding MCE and then enforce it. Every other airline that offers an extended economy product does this.
If AA was allowing upgrades to Premium Economy cabin , that would be different
Nov 21, 2017, 3:09 pm
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I have only seen it where an airline has a Premium Economy product, not where the airline is just charging differing amounts for advanced selection of seating within the economy cabin . MCE is just a name given to some of the economy seats
If AA was allowing upgrades to Premium Economy cabin , that would be different
If AA was allowing upgrades to Premium Economy cabin , that would be different
Nov 23, 2017, 12:22 pm
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I've had two experiences on the king of the nickle dimers Ryan Air. Other than the fact that I paid a 'significant' amount more to sit in the exit row, I had one flight that the FA activity asked people if they wanted to sit in the other 11 empty seats in the exit row.
I mostly paid for the ability to select my seats and have access to the exit row and the first couple of rows in the cabin.
My feeling is that if Ryan Air doesn't have it's FA's actively taking money for those seats you are not going to see it on AA or others
I mostly paid for the ability to select my seats and have access to the exit row and the first couple of rows in the cabin.
My feeling is that if Ryan Air doesn't have it's FA's actively taking money for those seats you are not going to see it on AA or others
Sep 9, 2019, 4:24 pm
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UA has humorously weighed in on this topic.
A passenger in Economy tweeted UA complaining FA's would make him pay extra if he sat in the Economy Plus section despite a couple of rows there being empty and his row was packed after the doors closed. UA's Twitter response was.
"Hi, Krunal. Economy Plus seats do carry an extra charge and letting customers move to those seats is not fair to the customers who did pay for the upgrade. ^BA" ... "The customers who choose to pay for Economy Plus are then afforded that extra space. If you were to purchase a Toyota, you would not be able to drive off with a Lexus, because it was empty. ^BA"
Why is AA the only carrier of the big 3 that allow squatters from Economy into MCE free of charge?
Source: https://thepointsguy.com/news/flying...youre-onboard/
A passenger in Economy tweeted UA complaining FA's would make him pay extra if he sat in the Economy Plus section despite a couple of rows there being empty and his row was packed after the doors closed. UA's Twitter response was.
"Hi, Krunal. Economy Plus seats do carry an extra charge and letting customers move to those seats is not fair to the customers who did pay for the upgrade. ^BA" ... "The customers who choose to pay for Economy Plus are then afforded that extra space. If you were to purchase a Toyota, you would not be able to drive off with a Lexus, because it was empty. ^BA"
Why is AA the only carrier of the big 3 that allow squatters from Economy into MCE free of charge?
Source: https://thepointsguy.com/news/flying...youre-onboard/
Sep 9, 2019, 4:48 pm
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Sep 9, 2019, 4:57 pm
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UA has humorously weighed in on this topic.
A passenger in Economy tweeted UA complaining FA's would make him pay extra if he sat in the Economy Plus section despite a couple of rows there being empty and his row was packed after the doors closed. UA's Twitter response was.
"Hi, Krunal. Economy Plus seats do carry an extra charge and letting customers move to those seats is not fair to the customers who did pay for the upgrade. ^BA" ... "The customers who choose to pay for Economy Plus are then afforded that extra space. If you were to purchase a Toyota, you would not be able to drive off with a Lexus, because it was empty. ^BA"
A passenger in Economy tweeted UA complaining FA's would make him pay extra if he sat in the Economy Plus section despite a couple of rows there being empty and his row was packed after the doors closed. UA's Twitter response was.
"Hi, Krunal. Economy Plus seats do carry an extra charge and letting customers move to those seats is not fair to the customers who did pay for the upgrade. ^BA" ... "The customers who choose to pay for Economy Plus are then afforded that extra space. If you were to purchase a Toyota, you would not be able to drive off with a Lexus, because it was empty. ^BA"
Sep 9, 2019, 6:23 pm
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Sep 9, 2019, 7:31 pm
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As a fellow passenger with a lot more on my mind to ding AA (or any other airline) for this, its not really something that strikes me as an issue to worry about.
Sep 9, 2019, 8:06 pm
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On international flights - MCE is spread all over the cabin and on the 77W the only few rows are the middle seats in the back part of the aircraft - except bulk head.
AA has done little to differentiate MCE - like UA has for E+ and DL for C+. UA sells E+ even for in flight upgrade. AA lets people on Basic Economy tickets move up - and they know they can and they buy BE seats.
AA wants more seats - and doesn't worry about trying to sell MCE.
Sep 9, 2019, 8:12 pm
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However, AA was the airline that tried the "more space throughout coach" failed experiment and discovered that most coach passengers will not pay anything extra for more legroom.
Sep 10, 2019, 8:09 am
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It happens on RJs at off-peak times. I've been on Saturday morning flights where every elite got upgraded to F, leaving entire MCE section empty. I didn't see whether they allowed anyone to move into MCE or not.
Sep 10, 2019, 8:19 am
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I've seen times when there's been one person in each row of MCE and the remainder of the a/c completely full. You see this on non summer Saturday afternoons and evenings and early Sundays when there are probably fewer elites traveling. I think we will see fewer MCE seats, particularly given the number of Group 9 paxs that end up in MCE.