Feb 19, 2016, 2:01 pm
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AA Vacations / aavacations.com Flight and Ground Packages
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FAQ
Q. Do these earn AAEQM Loyalty Points, Award Miles (RDM) and EQD (EQ Dollars in 2017)?
These generally book into discount paid fare buckets, so "Yes" at this time. There are a few promotional offers that do not earnEQM Loyalty Points; these will clearly say so, so read thoroughly. See:
Special fares: Earning Award Miles and Loyalty Points on aa.com (link)
Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partners 2016
and this for the changes affecting Award Miles coming in the latter part of 2016.
Earning AA Award / Redeemable Miles / RDM on AA, partners later 2016
Q. Can I upgrade these with AA upgrade instruments (e500 "stickers", miles and copay, SWU)? NOTE: As of July 2022, AA no longer issues 500-mile upgrade certificates ("stickers"). Auto-requested complimentary upgrades are now available to all elite status members and one traveling companion. See details at aa.com
Yes. These follow the standard AA upgrade rules.
Q. Can I use AAadvantage Award Miles to "pay" for a vacation?
(Change late 2019) Yes. You can "pay" with money (cards, etc.), AAdvantage miles or a combination of both. Miles may be used to pay for any portion of the vacation package up, and including, all of it. At this time there is no way to distinguish the breakpoint between the land portion and the air portion of the package, except by calling. And even this is a mixed bag.
Q. If I use AAdvantage Aware Miles to pay for part of my vacation, does this impact upgrades or EQM/RDM for the flights?(RDM)?
(Change 2020) AA Vacations agents are confident that using miles will have no impact on EQM/EQD/RDM as the miles are converted to "cash" to pay for the trip, so the AA system sees these as cash paid. This is supposed to apply no matter how much of the trip is paid with miles. Experiences reported here using part miles indicate that all posts as expected in these cases..
Q. So, what kinds of fares are ineligible for earning AA miles?
"Exceptions (aa.com)
Q. What aboutEQM Loyalty Points and Award ("Redeemable") Miles earning later in 2016 after 1 January 2022?
AA has specified a set of "Special Fares", which includes select AA Vacations (where there is a * next to the booking code when looking at the flight details).
Note that the Special Fares page also says, "AAdvantage elite member bonuses will be applied in addition to the percentages shown for award miles."
Q. What fare classes do First and Business packages book into?
Typically A for international First, A, R or P domestic F, and I or D international Business.
Q. What if I'm flying on a flight on a partner airline?
AA Vacations most often books into AA "code shares" / AA marketed flights. In that case, you'll earn miles as if flying on American. If it doesn't, you'll earn per the agreement AA has with the partner airline. Start here to look them up.
Q. What advance purchase restrictions are imposed?
Most advance purchase, minimum stay, etc. normally imposed by the airline don't apply; the restrictions are those imposed by AA Vacations. (Detailed Fare Rules for your fare generally do apply, however.)
Q. Are the trips or fares refundable?
Generally not fully refundable. Hotels and ground activities are generally not at all, and air will depend on the fare bucket and detailed rules. AA vacations does offer protection, but hotels etc. may not be included.
"There are two types of protection available: We offer the Cancellation and Change Waiver (Pre-Departure Protection) which allows you to cancel and/or change either the land or air portion of their package without penalty. Trip Protector (Post-Departure protection) from Allianz Global Assistance can provide protection for your trip expenses, your health and your belongings."
A waiver is usually $129 for international travel and $69 for domestic travel. This can also be paid with miles.
Q. What is the shortest time I can book an air-hotel package for?
It appears three nights is the shortest period allowed by aavacations, unless the total duration of the trip is less than three days, then it is length of trip. However, those three nights do not need to be at a single property.
Q. Can I book a ten day package with only three days of prepaid hotel?
Sure. You'll have to call to do so, however.
You can change the dates of the hotel to be different from those of the flights in the "More Search Options" section of the search. You can also book multiple rooms here too, specifying the number of guests per room.I don't think you can book hotel to be in a different city though. A hotel in a different city (or continent, even) can be booked, but must be done over the phone.
Q. Is only one hotel offered?
No. A variety of properties is generally offered, but this will of course affect pricing.
Q. Does the hotel have to be in the destination city?
No. You can book a property in another city if it's offered by AA Vacations.
Q. What happens if I don't use the ground part (hotel, car, etc.)? Will they cancel my return flights?
Nothing. You can use it or forget it. No flight cancellations ensue. See AA Vacations - not checking in at Hotel Some purposely book the cheapest pricing for their trip knowing they're choosing a "throwaway hotel" they won't use.
Though one AA Vacations agent actually said "always book with us and just book the cheapest hotel for 3 days and throw it away", don't you say it's your intent.
Q. Will AA Vacations cause problems for me?
If you disclose your intent to AA Vacations to "throw away" (not stay at) the hotel, they can not sell you the package. So, don't.
Q. Will the hotel cause problems for me?
Not likely; they're paid for a prepaid stay whether you stay or not, as they get to keep the money and have "your" room to sell.
Q. Will I earn points at the hotel? Will they recognize my status?
Many chains don't recognize third party bookings for points or stay credit, but will usually recognize your status. Properties will treat as prepaid booking.
Q. Are there ever deals or promos?
Indeed. There are often sales and promotions; look for them on the site.
Q. What if I want to book open jaw or customize?
Calling can do that. There's a $39 call fee, unless it's not able to be booked online. Others have said you can generally calculate the price of an open jaw itinerary by adding half the price of pricing for vacations to the arrival and departure cities and adding those.
Q. Can I put these on "hold" while I think about it since these include air fare?
No. But: Refund of Air Ticket Portion Within 24 Hours of Purchase
Within 24 hours of booking, you are allowed to cancel your refundable or non-refundable air ticket for a full refund (and no change fees and/or difference in fare) subject to the following rules:
Q. My AAdvantage credit card earns double Award ("Redeemable") Miles on AA purchases. Will AA Vacations purchases earn 2x miles?
No. What transactions are eligible to earn double AAdvantage® miles?
Eligible American Airlines purchases are items billed by American Airlines as the merchant of record booked through American Airlines channels (aa.com, American Airlines Reservations, American Airlines airport, in-flight and city ticket counters). American Airlines tickets purchased through other channels or that are a component of any other cruise or tour package do not earn the additional mile purchase bonuses. Products or services that do not qualify for the additional bonus miles include car rentals, hotel reservations, American Airlines Vacations packages, purchases of American Airlines AAdvantage miles, duty free purchases and or AA Cargo℠
Q. Do these earn AA
These generally book into discount paid fare buckets, so "Yes" at this time. There are a few promotional offers that do not earn
Special fares: Earning Award Miles and Loyalty Points on aa.com (link)
and this for the changes affecting Award Miles coming in the latter part of 2016.
Earning AA Award / Redeemable Miles / RDM on AA, partners later 2016
Q. Can I upgrade these with AA upgrade instruments (
Yes. These follow the standard AA upgrade rules.
Q. Can I use AAadvantage Award Miles to "pay" for a vacation?
(Change late 2019) Yes. You can "pay" with money (cards, etc.), AAdvantage miles or a combination of both. Miles may be used to pay for any portion of the vacation package up, and including, all of it. At this time there is no way to distinguish the breakpoint between the land portion and the air portion of the package, except by calling. And even this is a mixed bag.
Q. If I use AAdvantage Aware Miles to pay for part of my vacation, does this impact upgrades or EQM/RDM for the flights?(RDM)?
(Change 2020) AA Vacations agents are confident that using miles will have no impact on EQM/EQD/RDM as the miles are converted to "cash" to pay for the trip, so the AA system sees these as cash paid. This is supposed to apply no matter how much of the trip is paid with miles. Experiences reported here using part miles indicate that all posts as expected in these cases..
Q. So, what kinds of fares are ineligible for earning AA miles?
"Exceptions (aa.com)
There are certain airline ticket types that are not eligible for mileage accrual regardless of the booking class. These include, without limitation, the following:
Q Are there any types of tickets that won’t earn award miles?
Yes, tickets that currently do not earn award miles, elite-qualifying miles or elite-qualifying segments will not earn award miles in the future. This includes:
Q Are there any types of tickets that won’t earn award miles?
Yes, tickets that currently do not earn award miles, elite-qualifying miles or elite-qualifying segments will not earn award miles in the future. This includes:
- All tickets issued as AAdvantage awards
- Other free ticket promotions including free or reduced rate tickets
- Companion tickets
- Charter flight tickets
- Travel agency/industry reduced rate tickets
- Infant tickets
- Extra seats or items occupying a purchased seat
- Unpublished fare tickets, including consolidator fares
- Tickets issued subject to special provisions
Q. What about
AA has specified a set of "Special Fares", which includes select AA Vacations (where there is a * next to the booking code when looking at the flight details).
Some fares (such as bulk or consolidator fares) earn award miles and Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQDs) Loyalty Points (LPs) at a modified rate based on a percentage of the distance flown as determined by the booking code.
Special fares are often purchased through a specialized agent, third party or as part of a package including air transportation and lodging.
Examples:
Special fares are often purchased through a specialized agent, third party or as part of a package including air transportation and lodging.
Examples:
- Bulk fares
- Cruise fares
- Consolidator fares
- Discounted or inclusive tour packages
- Vacation packages, including select American Airlines Vacations® packages. For Vacations, special fares are marked with an asterisk (*) after the booking code in the AAVacations.com booking path,
- Other tickets where the fare isn't disclosed, excluding bookings made through priceline.com or hotwire.com where the carrier isn't disclosed before buying
Q. What fare classes do First and Business packages book into?
Typically A for international First, A, R or P domestic F, and I or D international Business.
Q. What if I'm flying on a flight on a partner airline?
AA Vacations most often books into AA "code shares" / AA marketed flights. In that case, you'll earn miles as if flying on American. If it doesn't, you'll earn per the agreement AA has with the partner airline. Start here to look them up.
Q. What advance purchase restrictions are imposed?
Most advance purchase, minimum stay, etc. normally imposed by the airline don't apply; the restrictions are those imposed by AA Vacations. (Detailed Fare Rules for your fare generally do apply, however.)
Q. Are the trips or fares refundable?
Generally not fully refundable. Hotels and ground activities are generally not at all, and air will depend on the fare bucket and detailed rules. AA vacations does offer protection, but hotels etc. may not be included.
"There are two types of protection available: We offer the Cancellation and Change Waiver (Pre-Departure Protection) which allows you to cancel and/or change either the land or air portion of their package without penalty. Trip Protector (Post-Departure protection) from Allianz Global Assistance can provide protection for your trip expenses, your health and your belongings."
A waiver is usually $129 for international travel and $69 for domestic travel. This can also be paid with miles.
Q. What is the shortest time I can book an air-hotel package for?
It appears three nights is the shortest period allowed by aavacations, unless the total duration of the trip is less than three days, then it is length of trip. However, those three nights do not need to be at a single property.
Q. Can I book a ten day package with only three days of prepaid hotel?
You can change the dates of the hotel to be different from those of the flights in the "More Search Options" section of the search. You can also book multiple rooms here too, specifying the number of guests per room.
Q. Is only one hotel offered?
No. A variety of properties is generally offered, but this will of course affect pricing.
Q. Does the hotel have to be in the destination city?
No. You can book a property in another city if it's offered by AA Vacations.
Q. What happens if I don't use the ground part (hotel, car, etc.)? Will they cancel my return flights?
Nothing. You can use it or forget it. No flight cancellations ensue. See AA Vacations - not checking in at Hotel Some purposely book the cheapest pricing for their trip knowing they're choosing a "throwaway hotel" they won't use.
Though one AA Vacations agent actually said "always book with us and just book the cheapest hotel for 3 days and throw it away", don't you say it's your intent.
Q. Will AA Vacations cause problems for me?
If you disclose your intent to AA Vacations to "throw away" (not stay at) the hotel, they can not sell you the package. So, don't.
Q. Will the hotel cause problems for me?
Not likely; they're paid for a prepaid stay whether you stay or not, as they get to keep the money and have "your" room to sell.
Q. Will I earn points at the hotel? Will they recognize my status?
Many chains don't recognize third party bookings for points or stay credit, but will usually recognize your status. Properties will treat as prepaid booking.
Q. Are there ever deals or promos?
Indeed. There are often sales and promotions; look for them on the site.
Q. What if I want to book open jaw or customize?
Calling can do that. There's a $39 call fee, unless it's not able to be booked online. Others have said you can generally calculate the price of an open jaw itinerary by adding half the price of pricing for vacations to the arrival and departure cities and adding those.
Q. Can I put these on "hold" while I think about it since these include air fare?
No. But: Refund of Air Ticket Portion Within 24 Hours of Purchase
Within 24 hours of booking, you are allowed to cancel your refundable or non-refundable air ticket for a full refund (and no change fees and/or difference in fare) subject to the following rules:
- You must call 800-321-2121 within 24 hours of purchase to cancel the air ticket reservation and request a refund of the air ticket.
- The reservation must have been booked at least 7 days before scheduled departure.
- This policy does not apply to hotel or other non-air portions of the package. Standard cancellation policies will apply to all non-air components of the package.
- Refunds are only issued for tickets booked on aavacations.com or with American Airlines Vacations Reservations.
Q. My AAdvantage credit card earns double Award ("Redeemable") Miles on AA purchases. Will AA Vacations purchases earn 2x miles?
No. What transactions are eligible to earn double AAdvantage® miles?
Eligible American Airlines purchases are items billed by American Airlines as the merchant of record booked through American Airlines channels (aa.com, American Airlines Reservations, American Airlines airport, in-flight and city ticket counters). American Airlines tickets purchased through other channels or that are a component of any other cruise or tour package do not earn the additional mile purchase bonuses. Products or services that do not qualify for the additional bonus miles include car rentals, hotel reservations, American Airlines Vacations packages, purchases of American Airlines AAdvantage miles, duty free purchases and or AA Cargo℠
(lower right wiki corner)Updated by JDiver 19 Feb 2016
FAQ: aavacations.com / AA Vacations flight & vacation package questions, discussion
Feb 24, 2017, 11:26 am
#91
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: CGX
Posts: 168
If you are using AAVacations, the payout is the same regardless of metal.
Are you comparing using AAVacations to not using AAVacations? Then you can pull up the relevant tables side-by-side and see for yourself. The EQM looks to be the same on AA-marketed and lower on BA-marketed. EQD on AA-marketed of course depends on the fare; on BA-marketed it's the same for some fare classes and worse for the others. Unless I mis-read the tables somewhere.
Are you comparing using AAVacations to not using AAVacations? Then you can pull up the relevant tables side-by-side and see for yourself. The EQM looks to be the same on AA-marketed and lower on BA-marketed. EQD on AA-marketed of course depends on the fare; on BA-marketed it's the same for some fare classes and worse for the others. Unless I mis-read the tables somewhere.
Feb 24, 2017, 1:01 pm
#92
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,234
Metal rarely, if ever, matters. It's all about the flight number / who markets the flight. As mentioned, EQMs are higher on AA-marketed flights, and you can usually get the AA codeshares via AA Vacations, even if you fly BA/IB metal TATL.
Feb 25, 2017, 8:43 am
#94
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: TPA
Programs: BA Silver; Hilton Gold; IHG Diamond Ambassador; Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,811
I've noticed that. You have to wonder why, except maybe for bookkeeping reasons. Even Marketed-by is irrelevant with AAVacations, as far as earning is concerned. It doesn't help the traveler in any other way, does it? IROPS handling, maybe, but they still need to get a new seat in the right fare class from the operating carrier, anyway.
Feb 25, 2017, 11:06 pm
#95
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 47
Data points on my recent AAVacations trip (LAX-DFW-NRT-SIN-NRT-LAX):
Outbound posted as a special fare by distance/data not available (ticket/fare details not available at the time flight posted). I don't know if this was due to the date change of the three outbound flights or the same day standby. The SWU leg (DFW-NRT) posted with booking code C (which isn't listed on the aa.com special fare chart), which was 100% award miles and 20% EQD. The original booking code was O (would have been 50% award miles and 10% EQD). I don't know if that was a glitch or intentional.
Inbound flights posted as expected: special fare by distance. SWU leg (NRT-LAX) posted with original booking code of O (50% award miles, 10% EQD).
- Two days prior to the original departure date, all three outbound flights (LAX-DFW-NRT-SIN) were changed on my request to one day earlier due to an equipment change (at no charge).
- NRT-SIN was originally booking code O but switched to N when I changed my flight as described above.
- I flew standby on an earlier same day flight for LAX-DFW.
- SWU was applied to DFW-NRT and NRT-LAX.
Outbound posted as a special fare by distance/data not available (ticket/fare details not available at the time flight posted). I don't know if this was due to the date change of the three outbound flights or the same day standby. The SWU leg (DFW-NRT) posted with booking code C (which isn't listed on the aa.com special fare chart), which was 100% award miles and 20% EQD. The original booking code was O (would have been 50% award miles and 10% EQD). I don't know if that was a glitch or intentional.
Inbound flights posted as expected: special fare by distance. SWU leg (NRT-LAX) posted with original booking code of O (50% award miles, 10% EQD).
Feb 26, 2017, 1:24 am
#96
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 2,203
Seems like it all posts as it should. Special fare. Mileage based.
Data points on my recent AAVacations trip (LAX-DFW-NRT-SIN-NRT-LAX):
Outbound posted as a special fare by distance/data not available (ticket/fare details not available at the time flight posted). I don't know if this was due to the date change of the three outbound flights or the same day standby. The SWU leg (DFW-NRT) posted with booking code C (which isn't listed on the aa.com special fare chart), which was 100% award miles and 20% EQD. The original booking code was O (would have been 50% award miles and 10% EQD). I don't know if that was a glitch or intentional.
Inbound flights posted as expected: special fare by distance. SWU leg (NRT-LAX) posted with original booking code of O (50% award miles, 10% EQD).
- Two days prior to the original departure date, all three outbound flights (LAX-DFW-NRT-SIN) were changed on my request to one day earlier due to an equipment change (at no charge).
- NRT-SIN was originally booking code O but switched to N when I changed my flight as described above.
- I flew standby on an earlier same day flight for LAX-DFW.
- SWU was applied to DFW-NRT and NRT-LAX.
Outbound posted as a special fare by distance/data not available (ticket/fare details not available at the time flight posted). I don't know if this was due to the date change of the three outbound flights or the same day standby. The SWU leg (DFW-NRT) posted with booking code C (which isn't listed on the aa.com special fare chart), which was 100% award miles and 20% EQD. The original booking code was O (would have been 50% award miles and 10% EQD). I don't know if that was a glitch or intentional.
Inbound flights posted as expected: special fare by distance. SWU leg (NRT-LAX) posted with original booking code of O (50% award miles, 10% EQD).
Feb 26, 2017, 5:08 am
#97
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oakland
Programs: AA Explat, UA former 1K + PremExec, DL
Posts: 1,151
I've noticed that. You have to wonder why, except maybe for bookkeeping reasons. Even Marketed-by is irrelevant with AAVacations, as far as earning is concerned. It doesn't help the traveler in any other way, does it? IROPS handling, maybe, but they still need to get a new seat in the right fare class from the operating carrier, anyway.
Feb 26, 2017, 3:59 pm
#98
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: TPA
Programs: BA Silver; Hilton Gold; IHG Diamond Ambassador; Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,811
Feb 26, 2017, 4:02 pm
#99
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: TPA
Programs: BA Silver; Hilton Gold; IHG Diamond Ambassador; Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,811
No, that's the opposite of my point. Neither marketed nor operated matters for earnings in this case -- the AAVacations Special Fares table rules.
Feb 26, 2017, 4:23 pm
#100
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,234
Is there evidence to the contrary?
Feb 26, 2017, 5:06 pm
#101
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 47
In my case, I really benefited by the fare details not being available for my outbound trip. I got C at a rate that isn't published, and I got N at the higher rate. I'm not complaining... actually I'd like to know what caused the outbound trip to fall into the "ticket/fare details unavailable" category so I can try to recreate it next time.
Feb 26, 2017, 5:09 pm
#102
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 47
My understanding is that the Special Fares table is only for AA-marketed flights. If the segment is marketed by another carrier, then that table will rule. So an AA-marketed business class flight booked via AA Vacations will earn 2.0x EQM/mile, while a BA-marketed segment would only earn 1.5x.
Is there evidence to the contrary?
Is there evidence to the contrary?
Feb 26, 2017, 5:16 pm
#103
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: TPA
Programs: BA Silver; Hilton Gold; IHG Diamond Ambassador; Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,811
My understanding is that the Special Fares table is only for AA-marketed flights. If the segment is marketed by another carrier, then that table will rule. So an AA-marketed business class flight booked via AA Vacations will earn 2.0x EQM/mile, while a BA-marketed segment would only earn 1.5x.
Is there evidence to the contrary?
Is there evidence to the contrary?
Feb 26, 2017, 5:18 pm
#104
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: TPA
Programs: BA Silver; Hilton Gold; IHG Diamond Ambassador; Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,811
Actually, O and N are the same when fare details are available (the top table on the website - 50% award miles and 10% EQD), but when fare details aren't available, N is better than O (75% award miles and 15% EQD).
In my case, I really benefited by the fare details not being available for my outbound trip. I got C at a rate that isn't published, and I got N at the higher rate. I'm not complaining... actually I'd like to know what caused the outbound trip to fall into the "ticket/fare details unavailable" category so I can try to recreate it next time.
In my case, I really benefited by the fare details not being available for my outbound trip. I got C at a rate that isn't published, and I got N at the higher rate. I'm not complaining... actually I'd like to know what caused the outbound trip to fall into the "ticket/fare details unavailable" category so I can try to recreate it next time.