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HELP DESK: AA - US Merger Completion 17 Oct 2015: Program Issues, Problems, Questions, etc.
"One system. One code." As of October 17, 2015.
ASK YOUR PROGRAM MERGER-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE
ASK YOUR PROGRAM MERGER-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE
N.B. LAA = Legacy American Airlines, LUS = Legacy US Airways, being used as differentiators to help members see where threads might have originated, which A319, A321 or 757 is being discussed in a particular thread, which fleet a particular aircraft came from, etc.
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AA and US Computer Reservations and Passenger Services Systems Merge 18 Jul - 16 Oct 2015; US Shares data moved to AA Sabre (with the QIK overlay used by US) during 90 day "draindown" process.
29 October 2015
A message from CEO Doug Parker
Dear FName,
I'm happy to share we are now one airline. All our flights are operating as American Airlines, and the US Airways brand belongs to history.
I want to take a moment to thank you for your continued loyalty as we've worked to become one. Integrating two airlines is no easy task, but today, we're operating a single website and reservations system.
As a valued customer, this means our policies and elite benefits are fully aligned, creating a seamless travel experience for you. You'll notice airport kiosks and signs are all branded American, and all our regional carriers now fly under the American Eagle name.
We've worked hard to build you a better airline, but the work does not end here. We're committed to improving and pushing further down the path to restore American as the greatest airline in the world.
Thank you for flying with us.
Doug Parker
Chairman & CEO
American Airlines
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A message from CEO Doug Parker
Dear FName,
I'm happy to share we are now one airline. All our flights are operating as American Airlines, and the US Airways brand belongs to history.
I want to take a moment to thank you for your continued loyalty as we've worked to become one. Integrating two airlines is no easy task, but today, we're operating a single website and reservations system.
As a valued customer, this means our policies and elite benefits are fully aligned, creating a seamless travel experience for you. You'll notice airport kiosks and signs are all branded American, and all our regional carriers now fly under the American Eagle name.
We've worked hard to build you a better airline, but the work does not end here. We're committed to improving and pushing further down the path to restore American as the greatest airline in the world.
Thank you for flying with us.
Doug Parker
Chairman & CEO
American Airlines
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Note: The "pre-consolidated AA and US fora have now been closed to further posting; all current and relevant threads have been merged into this forum. If you feel there is a thread your Moderator team has missed, please read the ANNOUNCEMENT at the top of this forum to see how that can be remedied.
Executive summary:
- All flights changed to AA, reservations and bookings controls to Sabre and aa.com for flights effective 17 October.
- All US Shares data moved to AA Sabre by 17 Oct; the QIK interface used with Shares has been added to Sabre.
- US Airways site us airways.com now closed, redirects to aa.com
- On Saturday, 17 October, AA had 20% higher than normal staffing to assist.
- On Saturday, 17 October, AA reduced load by 200 flights for that day.
- All policies going forward will be Legacy American Airlines, unless otherwise modified. US Airways policies will no longer apply.
- Full rebranding (other than aircraft reprinting, which will proceed well into 2016 at least) occurred by October 17 - all flight coding, kiosk and ticket counter, lounge (previously completed), etc.
- The US Airways brand ceased to exist 17 October 2015.
OCTOBER 17 2015 CHANGES: The AA front page now links to nhttps://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/arriving.jsp, which lists changes on October 17 at BOS, DCA, SFO.
BOS: Special notice Link
Beginning October 17, we’ll only operate out of Terminal B. There will be 3 check-in locations, marked outside by gate number.
Beginning October 17, we’ll only operate out of Terminal B. There will be 3 check-in locations, marked outside by gate number.
DCA: Special notice Link
Beginning October 17, we’ll operate out of Terminals B and C. American Shuttle flights and ticket counters will move to Terminal B, as well as ticket counters for Priority. Ticket counters for Main Cabin will be in Terminal C.
Beginning October 17, we’ll operate out of Terminals B and C. American Shuttle flights and ticket counters will move to Terminal B, as well as ticket counters for Priority. Ticket counters for Main Cabin will be in Terminal C.
SFO: Special notice Link
We operate out of Terminals 1 and 2. Ticket counters are only available in Terminal 2..
We operate out of Terminals 1 and 2. Ticket counters are only available in Terminal 2..
HELP DESK: AA - US CRS & PSS Merger 17 Oct 2015 - Issues, Q & A, Etc.
#31
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Even the PSS system seems mostly OK. Had to refresh a few times to see trips, I hate the current itinerary simplicity mode, but Friday I took advantage of the amazing sale last week and booked trips for next year - easily done, ticketed within the hour. ^
Maya Leibman may be getting a tiara for this one.
Maya Leibman may be getting a tiara for this one.
#32
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SFO, LON
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Bonvoy Tit, Hilton Dia etc etc
Posts: 2,354
They did what they said they would do: moved flights from the smaller system to the bigger system, period.
Most of the mergers we have discussed as being flawed from an IT standpoint involved a de facto roll-out of a brand new system (small system with a ton of changes made to it to somehow "catch up"). And while there have been some changes made to AA over the last year or so, and some issues associated with that, it's minor and incremental, not big bang.
It's been great to see from a customer perspective. From my experience this doesn't mean there isn't some concern internally about the change, but what they've done is protect the customer and that's a real achievement. UA/CO managed the singular feat of %$&&$#( off both its customers and employees in one fell swoop
Most of the mergers we have discussed as being flawed from an IT standpoint involved a de facto roll-out of a brand new system (small system with a ton of changes made to it to somehow "catch up"). And while there have been some changes made to AA over the last year or so, and some issues associated with that, it's minor and incremental, not big bang.
It's been great to see from a customer perspective. From my experience this doesn't mean there isn't some concern internally about the change, but what they've done is protect the customer and that's a real achievement. UA/CO managed the singular feat of %$&&$#( off both its customers and employees in one fell swoop
#33
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,951
They did what they said they would do: moved flights from the smaller system to the bigger system, period.
Most of the mergers we have discussed as being flawed from an IT standpoint involved a de facto roll-out of a brand new system (small system with a ton of changes made to it to somehow "catch up"). And while there have been some changes made to AA over the last year or so, and some issues associated with that, it's minor and incremental, not big bang.
Most of the mergers we have discussed as being flawed from an IT standpoint involved a de facto roll-out of a brand new system (small system with a ton of changes made to it to somehow "catch up"). And while there have been some changes made to AA over the last year or so, and some issues associated with that, it's minor and incremental, not big bang.
#34
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Slightly off topic, but related, the stats for the forum here and where we came from (snapshot at 09:00 Pacific):
IMO, our members have contributed a lot: tons of knowledge, experiences, searching and making use of existing resources before starting duplicate threads, treating each other respectfully, refraining from ranting about the changes that have been imposed upon all of us and blaming each other, and being flexible about the changes we had to implement on FT to match what the airlines were doing.
I hoped and expected that, but seeing how other mergers have affected some, wasn't counting on it. We're all veterans now, whether it was HP-US, AA-TW, or this big one, US-AA.
So, here we are - again, welcome to the now finally named American Airlines | AAdvantage forum, and I'm very glad it has gone so easily with everyone's participation and support. ^
AA Combined: 5,143 threads, 321 (70 members & 251 guests)
AA pm closed: 85,670 threads, 99 (3 members & 96 guests
US pm closed: 25,037 threads, 24 (2 members & 22 guests)
AA pm closed: 85,670 threads, 99 (3 members & 96 guests
US pm closed: 25,037 threads, 24 (2 members & 22 guests)
I hoped and expected that, but seeing how other mergers have affected some, wasn't counting on it. We're all veterans now, whether it was HP-US, AA-TW, or this big one, US-AA.
So, here we are - again, welcome to the now finally named American Airlines | AAdvantage forum, and I'm very glad it has gone so easily with everyone's participation and support. ^
#35
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Atlanta, GA
Programs: AA PLT, AS 75K, DL DM, HY Globalist, HH Diamond, MC/RZ/SW Platinum, AB/UA Silver, WN CP
Posts: 1,122
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, so apologies if it has to be moved.
One of the changes to which I've looked most forward was the demise of the horrible US app and sluggish mobile check-in procedures. This included an airport I frequent which US claimed was incompatible with mobile boarding passes (even though it clearly has worked fine for other carriers here for years). I chalked this up to US not making even minor fixes to their problematic IT infrastructure ever since the merger was announced.
Well, today I went to check in for my AA (former US) flight, and the app told me (after checking me in) that I can't use a mobile boarding pass here and have to get one from an AAgent, kiosk, or print from aa.com. Grrr. Ok, fine, this one slipped through the cracks. Curses.
All of the workers here are employed by Envoy (even ones that serve UA), and they are about as unhelpful as any you may ever experience. They refuse to print BP for anyone, claiming that they've been told everyone must use the kiosks, no exceptions. So if you arrive and see a person at the counter doing absolutely nothing, and a line of ploddingly-slow people at the kiosks, you get told they can't help you do anything. Good times. (Not so much.)
Having learned that lesson before, I went to aa.com to print my BP, and was told, "Please check in at the airport. We’re unable to check you in online." Now, just below that statement, it shows "Already checked in" in green, and I get that message simply by choosing "Get boarding pass >>"
As an aside, I'm sick and tired of being told, "This feature is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for this inconvenience. Please try again later." when selecting My trips / Check-in from the aa.com homepage. I'm sorry, but that's been broken for months, and that's absolutely unacceptable. Yes, I know I can just click on AAdvantage and then My Trips, but why must I?
On the positive side, upgrades for both of my flights tomorrow actually cleared 72 hours in advance (still no email or other notification; I just checked on my own). This is the first time I've ever had that feature work properly. On my last flight from ATL to DFW, the system was showing 9 available F seats a few hours in advance, but I still didn't clear until boarding time (even the AC AAgent couldn't do it sooner than that).
Hopefully the other kinks will iron themselves out very soon.
One of the changes to which I've looked most forward was the demise of the horrible US app and sluggish mobile check-in procedures. This included an airport I frequent which US claimed was incompatible with mobile boarding passes (even though it clearly has worked fine for other carriers here for years). I chalked this up to US not making even minor fixes to their problematic IT infrastructure ever since the merger was announced.
Well, today I went to check in for my AA (former US) flight, and the app told me (after checking me in) that I can't use a mobile boarding pass here and have to get one from an AAgent, kiosk, or print from aa.com. Grrr. Ok, fine, this one slipped through the cracks. Curses.
All of the workers here are employed by Envoy (even ones that serve UA), and they are about as unhelpful as any you may ever experience. They refuse to print BP for anyone, claiming that they've been told everyone must use the kiosks, no exceptions. So if you arrive and see a person at the counter doing absolutely nothing, and a line of ploddingly-slow people at the kiosks, you get told they can't help you do anything. Good times. (Not so much.)
Having learned that lesson before, I went to aa.com to print my BP, and was told, "Please check in at the airport. We’re unable to check you in online." Now, just below that statement, it shows "Already checked in" in green, and I get that message simply by choosing "Get boarding pass >>"
As an aside, I'm sick and tired of being told, "This feature is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for this inconvenience. Please try again later." when selecting My trips / Check-in from the aa.com homepage. I'm sorry, but that's been broken for months, and that's absolutely unacceptable. Yes, I know I can just click on AAdvantage and then My Trips, but why must I?
On the positive side, upgrades for both of my flights tomorrow actually cleared 72 hours in advance (still no email or other notification; I just checked on my own). This is the first time I've ever had that feature work properly. On my last flight from ATL to DFW, the system was showing 9 available F seats a few hours in advance, but I still didn't clear until boarding time (even the AC AAgent couldn't do it sooner than that).
Hopefully the other kinks will iron themselves out very soon.
#36
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BOS
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 194
+1
Yup. But they deserve serious kudos for designing a transition that avoided a roll-out of a brand new system. Experience certainly tells me that simply doing what you say you're going to do with a major IT transition is a major feat. The fact that they (seem to have) succeeded by making it easy on themselves earns them more respect than they would have gotten by successfully pulling off a UA/CO or HP/US-style major day zero rollout.
#37
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: US, HH
Posts: 895
CP certificates on US drained down reservations.
Not sure if others have come across this, but:
- CP certificate applied to outbound back when booked
- After reticketing on AA for draindown, unable to access reservation while logged in, but ok while not logged in.
- Nobody ever sees anything wrong with it.
- Unable to check in online --> after entering passport info (which is in fact in the record already but getting ignored), it just cycles back to the check-in screen
-First told "schedule change" so mismatch - not true.
- Then told, by EXP agent no less, "because your return flight is SWU waitlisted still, you can't do OLCI for outbound" (Really?? Then I guess I was lucky some other times when I was able to do just that)
- After they keep passing me back and forth between reservations and yet another web support rep, I actually get one (#3) who after a while finally sees something - the CP certificate is apparently looking like waitlisted but has me in J so the whole outbound flight is mismatched re class of service and seat.
So that is probably why it's acting up at OLCI.
Sadly that means checking in at airport, what a waste of time.
Workaround: originally when trying to check in at T23, app didn't even display option for OLCI. Fast forward a few hours and noticed the app now shows Check-in option - and it worked. (Why is the app late with making OLCI available?)
After that, aa.com was able to pull up BPs in order to print (is there no option from app to also print/email?) Interestingly, when trying to do this from an iPad, it errored out but did not actually show any error messages. Trying from a laptop revealed that the email field was blank - which is par for the course for AA and US dropping info between reservations even before Oct 17, my email and phone never made it across from AA to US when flying AA ticketed US flights.
- CP certificate applied to outbound back when booked
- After reticketing on AA for draindown, unable to access reservation while logged in, but ok while not logged in.
- Nobody ever sees anything wrong with it.
- Unable to check in online --> after entering passport info (which is in fact in the record already but getting ignored), it just cycles back to the check-in screen
-First told "schedule change" so mismatch - not true.
- Then told, by EXP agent no less, "because your return flight is SWU waitlisted still, you can't do OLCI for outbound" (Really?? Then I guess I was lucky some other times when I was able to do just that)
- After they keep passing me back and forth between reservations and yet another web support rep, I actually get one (#3) who after a while finally sees something - the CP certificate is apparently looking like waitlisted but has me in J so the whole outbound flight is mismatched re class of service and seat.
So that is probably why it's acting up at OLCI.
Sadly that means checking in at airport, what a waste of time.
Workaround: originally when trying to check in at T23, app didn't even display option for OLCI. Fast forward a few hours and noticed the app now shows Check-in option - and it worked. (Why is the app late with making OLCI available?)
After that, aa.com was able to pull up BPs in order to print (is there no option from app to also print/email?) Interestingly, when trying to do this from an iPad, it errored out but did not actually show any error messages. Trying from a laptop revealed that the email field was blank - which is par for the course for AA and US dropping info between reservations even before Oct 17, my email and phone never made it across from AA to US when flying AA ticketed US flights.
Last edited by GrjApp; Oct 22, 2015 at 9:42 pm Reason: Workaround found
#38
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 755
An update from my mini-rant about web services and the BS reply I got.
Have checked several days and several cities, and it seems that any PSA CR7 flight out of CLT I looked at, the seatmap will not load.
Frankly, I don't want to put myself through another call to web services - If there's anyone official from AA here, or if the mods have a contact, can someone look into this?
Have checked several days and several cities, and it seems that any PSA CR7 flight out of CLT I looked at, the seatmap will not load.
Frankly, I don't want to put myself through another call to web services - If there's anyone official from AA here, or if the mods have a contact, can someone look into this?
#39
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 755
An update from my mini-rant about web services and the BS reply I got.
Have checked several days and several cities, and it seems that any PSA CR7 flight out of CLT I looked at, the seatmap will not load.
Frankly, I don't want to put myself through another call to web services - If there's anyone official from AA here, or if the mods have a contact, can someone look into this?
Have checked several days and several cities, and it seems that any PSA CR7 flight out of CLT I looked at, the seatmap will not load.
Frankly, I don't want to put myself through another call to web services - If there's anyone official from AA here, or if the mods have a contact, can someone look into this?
#40
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: AA Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 425
Not sure if others have come across this, but:
- CP certificate applied to outbound back when booked
- After reticketing on AA for draindown, unable to access reservation while logged in, but ok while not logged in.
- Nobody ever sees anything wrong with it.
- Unable to check in online --> after entering passport info (which is in fact in the record already but getting ignored), it just cycles back to the check-in screen
-First told "schedule change" so mismatch - not true.
- Then told, by EXP agent no less, "because your return flight is SWU waitlisted still, you can't do OLCI for outbound" (Really?? Then I guess I was lucky some other times when I was able to do just that)
- After they keep passing me back and forth between reservations and yet another web support rep, I actually get one (#3) who after a while finally sees something - the CP certificate is apparently looking like waitlisted but has me in J so the whole outbound flight is mismatched re class of service and seat.
So that is probably why it's acting up at OLCI.
Sadly that means checking in at airport, what a waste of time.
Workaround: originally when trying to check in at T23, app didn't even display option for OLCI. Fast forward a few hours and noticed the app now shows Check-in option - and it worked. (Why is the app late with making OLCI available?)
After that, aa.com was able to pull up BPs in order to print (is there no option from app to also print/email?) Interestingly, when trying to do this from an iPad, it errored out but did not actually show any error messages. Trying from a laptop revealed that the email field was blank - which is par for the course for AA and US dropping info between reservations even before Oct 17, my email and phone never made it across from AA to US when flying AA ticketed US flights.
- CP certificate applied to outbound back when booked
- After reticketing on AA for draindown, unable to access reservation while logged in, but ok while not logged in.
- Nobody ever sees anything wrong with it.
- Unable to check in online --> after entering passport info (which is in fact in the record already but getting ignored), it just cycles back to the check-in screen
-First told "schedule change" so mismatch - not true.
- Then told, by EXP agent no less, "because your return flight is SWU waitlisted still, you can't do OLCI for outbound" (Really?? Then I guess I was lucky some other times when I was able to do just that)
- After they keep passing me back and forth between reservations and yet another web support rep, I actually get one (#3) who after a while finally sees something - the CP certificate is apparently looking like waitlisted but has me in J so the whole outbound flight is mismatched re class of service and seat.
So that is probably why it's acting up at OLCI.
Sadly that means checking in at airport, what a waste of time.
Workaround: originally when trying to check in at T23, app didn't even display option for OLCI. Fast forward a few hours and noticed the app now shows Check-in option - and it worked. (Why is the app late with making OLCI available?)
After that, aa.com was able to pull up BPs in order to print (is there no option from app to also print/email?) Interestingly, when trying to do this from an iPad, it errored out but did not actually show any error messages. Trying from a laptop revealed that the email field was blank - which is par for the course for AA and US dropping info between reservations even before Oct 17, my email and phone never made it across from AA to US when flying AA ticketed US flights.
This scares me. But it looks like your resolution was simply to wait until a few hours before your flight, and then check in.
I may have to check in at the airport anyway because I plan to ask them to interline my luggage through to a BA flight upon arriving at LHR.
#41
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: US, HH
Posts: 895
YES. I am having the exact same issues, up to the point where you discuss checking in, as my flights do not depart until late December. I have been unable to access my reservation while logged in. When I call, they say the reservation is fine. I have seat assignments in J and everything. Sometimes the app loads the reservation, but the web will only intermittently load the reservation if I am logged out and manually enter the confirmation number.
This scares me. But it looks like your resolution was simply to wait until a few hours before your flight, and then check in.
I may have to check in at the airport anyway because I plan to ask them to interline my luggage through to a BA flight upon arriving at LHR.
This scares me. But it looks like your resolution was simply to wait until a few hours before your flight, and then check in.
I may have to check in at the airport anyway because I plan to ask them to interline my luggage through to a BA flight upon arriving at LHR.
#42
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: SFO/STS
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond
Posts: 396
Smooth Flying
I had two flights this week, one Sunday morning (18th) and one Friday (23rd). The only issue I had was a TSA precheck line that was longer and slower than the regular line at ORD. Got upgrades between 36 and 6 hrs in advance so the whole change over was pretty much a non-event for me. Kudos to the consolidation teams!
#43
Join Date: Dec 2005
Programs: DL GM, AA PLT.
Posts: 537
Is it always this difficult to buy an upgrade?
Flew MAN-PHL recently.
Called AA to get an upgrade with miles/co-pay.
First call - The agent types away, declares herself 'confused' and then says I'll have to sort it out at the airport.
I go into my booking, and I'm now in J, though no miles deducted and no payment had been taken.
Second call - I call to ask what has happened. The agent this time takes payment, saying she had to 'fool the computer into thinking we're in London.'
I check my booking, the miles have been deducted.
I arrive at MAN on the day of departure, to be told payment hadn't been taken, nor miles deducted (even though I can see the miles have gone.)
I paid again, though am a bit wary I've paid twice. Will have to check that when I get home.
Is it always this tricky to give AA money?
Called AA to get an upgrade with miles/co-pay.
First call - The agent types away, declares herself 'confused' and then says I'll have to sort it out at the airport.
I go into my booking, and I'm now in J, though no miles deducted and no payment had been taken.
Second call - I call to ask what has happened. The agent this time takes payment, saying she had to 'fool the computer into thinking we're in London.'
I check my booking, the miles have been deducted.
I arrive at MAN on the day of departure, to be told payment hadn't been taken, nor miles deducted (even though I can see the miles have gone.)
I paid again, though am a bit wary I've paid twice. Will have to check that when I get home.
Is it always this tricky to give AA money?
#44
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: OKC
Programs: IHG Spire, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 2,274
No, it isn't that hard. I do miles+copay fairly often, and it works well.
When you were moved up to J, did it show ticketed, or ticket pending? If it said ticketed, I would have left it at that. May have been a glitch for a free upgrade.
When you were moved up to J, did it show ticketed, or ticket pending? If it said ticketed, I would have left it at that. May have been a glitch for a free upgrade.