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nall May 23, 2015 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by Dallas49er (Post 24858993)
Received e-mail notice of upgrade this morning for 5/27 DFW-ABQ at T-100.

Can confirm I know some other upgrades this week cleared at T-100

txrus May 25, 2015 7:40 am

Upgrade for my flight finally cleared @ T-4 yesterday (LAX-PHX in a CRJ, so 9 seats total). Like on Monday, never rec'd an e-mail notification of the upgrade going thru-just happened to notice my seat had changed on my phone. Never could see the upgrade list on my phone for either flight, btw.

At that time the upgrade cleared yesterday, the only other pax up front was, as I discovered later, a non-rev employee who was very well known to the FA's working the flight & who made his own announcement upon landing to the cabin...'ladies & gentlemen, your a**** are now on the ground'.

Flight went out w/3 deadheading uniformed crew up front (who boarded early & took up almost every inch of overhead bin space in the cabin :mad:) along w/1 empty seat. No announcement from the GA while I was there about selling the final seat, though there was 1 unchecked name on the board for an upgrade when we boarded-?pax misconnected.

1AAFlyer May 25, 2015 12:57 pm

No more thru check ins for upgrade
 
I was told in MIA that since the merger, my upgrade would only clear for 1 flight, not my second until I landed at DFW and checked in. That is ridiculous, as I am not able to check in until I land on an AA flight. Seems absurd to me. Has anyone else experienced this?

Dallas49er May 25, 2015 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by 1AAFlyer (Post 24866976)
I was told in MIA that since the merger, my upgrade would only clear for 1 flight, not my second until I landed at DFW and checked in. That is ridiculous, as I am not able to check in until I land on an AA flight. Seems absurd to me. Has anyone else experienced this?

There is a check-in feature at 24 hours prior to flight time, that should preserve your time stamp. I don't see any need for one to check-in for one's next leg when one arrives at the 2nd leg airport, when one checks in ahead.

1AAFlyer May 25, 2015 2:14 pm

check in
 
I did check in on line 24 hours in advance. I am just telling you that I was told the upgrade for the second segment no longer clears then, but instead when you arrive at your first destination

BSBD May 25, 2015 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by 1AAFlyer (Post 24866976)
I was told in MIA that since the merger, my upgrade would only clear for 1 flight, not my second until I landed at DFW and checked in. That is ridiculous, as I am not able to check in until I land on an AA flight. Seems absurd to me. Has anyone else experienced this?

I've had a number of 2nd segment upgraded clear lately, usually at the same time as the 1st segment. Not all the time, but enough to be sure that what you were told is not true.

RogerD408 May 25, 2015 5:16 pm

Having just waded through many pages on this thread and some other similar threads, it appears AA's RM is spending more time crunching numbers before releasing upgrade inventory. I have no doubt they have much more success at predicting what's going to happen on any particular flight than any of us can have through prior experience (not to mention their desire to change things up). Unfortunately RM is a total black box to us and all we are going to see is anecdotal experience and guesses.

Plato1 May 26, 2015 8:08 am


Originally Posted by Dallas49er (Post 24867208)
There is a check-in feature at 24 hours prior to flight time, that should preserve your time stamp. I don't see any need for one to check-in for one's next leg when one arrives at the 2nd leg airport, when one checks in ahead.

Why does time stamp matter on AAa?

Arsey00 May 26, 2015 10:48 am


Originally Posted by Plato1 (Post 24870371)
Why does time stamp matter on AAa?

AA use time of request as a tiebreak within the various upgrade categories.

dmbtr3 May 26, 2015 10:58 am

Clearing late doesn't bother me as long as I clear :) FWIW, I just cleared RDU-LGA at T-100, which is a rarity in general but not on this route. Just depends where/when you fly. I think they hold it some too to give people who booked the code-share a fighting chance. Sometimes I have had to book mixed itineraries and my corp. travel generally has me book all in one ticket stock for the RT, so I appreciate this.

RogerD408 May 26, 2015 11:38 am


Originally Posted by dmbtr3 (Post 24871221)
Clearing late doesn't bother me as long as I clear :) FWIW, I just cleared RDU-LGA at T-100, which is a rarity in general but not on this route. Just depends where/when you fly. I think they hold it some too to give people who booked the code-share a fighting chance. Sometimes I have had to book mixed itineraries and my corp. travel generally has me book all in one ticket stock for the RT, so I appreciate this.

Yes, it does appear they are holding inventory a lot longer than in the past.

FYI, it's not the ticket stock that will determine when an upgrade is possible, it's the marketing/operating info. See if you can get them to book AA flight numbers for AA operated flights and vs and you should be good to go for early upgrades IF the inventory is released.

Dallas49er May 26, 2015 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by RogerD408 (Post 24871431)
Yes, it does appear they are holding inventory a lot longer than in the past.

FYI, it's not the ticket stock that will determine when an upgrade is possible, it's the marketing/operating info. See if you can get them to book AA flight numbers for AA operated flights and vs and you should be good to go for early upgrades IF the inventory is released.

No offence ...

AFAIK-time stamp of request should be the ACE OF TRUMP/final arbiter. (Except at LAX and SFO, where staff will do or try to screw over all and any rev PAX to get non-rev PAX friends upfront).

That is why I lean over the desk at the gate at LAX and SFO, and watch every move the GA's in those stations make-They are looking out for their friends (and family), and not for their revenue PAX.

I have the truth (experience, evidence, et. al, ) on my side.

Yet I am still donning a flame proof suit.

JonNYC May 26, 2015 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by Dallas49er (Post 24871616)
No offence ...

AFAIK-time stamp of request should be the ACE OF TRUMP/final arbiter. (Except at LAX and SFO, where staff will do or try to screw over all and any rev PAX to get non-rev PAX friends upfront).

That is why I lean over the desk at the gate at LAX and SFO, and watch every move the GA's in those stations make-They are looking out for their friends (and family), and not for their revenue PAX.

I have the truth (experience, evidence, et. al, ) on my side.

Yet I am still donning a flame proof suit.

Don't forget the tin-foil hat to go with it.

Dallas49er May 26, 2015 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by JonNYC (Post 24872040)
Don't forget the tin-foil hat to go with it.

I'm not sure I take your meaning.

My meaning is that GA's in LAX & SFO, based on my flying in and out of both since 1982, on UA, DL, AA, ... tend to take care of friends and family, at the expense of REV PAX. Maybe it is a union thing.

cmd320 May 26, 2015 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by Dallas49er (Post 24872954)
I'm not sure I take your meaning.

My meaning is that GA's in LAX & SFO, based on my flying in and out of both since 1982, on UA, DL, AA, ... tend to take care of friends and family, at the expense of REV PAX. Maybe it is a union thing.

I'm not sure about AA but this is definitely how things work at DL. Lots of non-rev upgrade shenanigans.


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