ARCHIVE: Speculation: Will Aer Lingus Now Re-Join AA in Oneworld ?
Jan 28, 2015, 5:38 pm
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Jan 28, 2015, 6:10 pm
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I think EI would fly to LAX from DUB long before AA would ever attempt it. They were flying to SFO for a while last decade. I'm not sure if that flight still exists though. When EI is folded into the ATI/JV agreement, my prediction is that AA would do the flying from BOS/JFK/PHL/CLT, while EI would pick up the routes with their 330s that are beyond the range of a 757 (like MIA/DFW/LAX), and probably fly to JFK and ORD as well.
Jan 28, 2015, 8:23 pm
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Hey, lets not forget that EI gives Canadians another choice to fly OW rather than the only carrier offered from DUB to YYZ via LHR on BA.
Jan 29, 2015, 3:19 pm
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I think EI would fly to LAX from DUB long before AA would ever attempt it. They were flying to SFO for a while last decade. I'm not sure if that flight still exists though. When EI is folded into the ATI/JV agreement, my prediction is that AA would do the flying from BOS/JFK/PHL/CLT, while EI would pick up the routes with their 330s that are beyond the range of a 757 (like MIA/DFW/LAX), and probably fly to JFK and ORD as well.
Jan 29, 2015, 10:55 pm
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One challenge we might see, given we're all speculating now, is given Iberia and BAEC a upcoming reductions to 50% earnings in any economy fare below H, B, Y (and 25% for deep discount fares), be prepared for very stingy miles earnings in those classes (or pay more to take economy AA codeshares).
Jan 30, 2015, 11:02 am
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Jan 30, 2015, 12:16 pm
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Jan 30, 2015, 2:13 pm
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Unless some joker decides to do DUB or SNN -BOS with a narrow body A320 or such 737, equipped with high density Y seating and a "Business Class" with the same seating and the middle seat blocked. DUB/SNN-BOS is not that much longer than HEL-TLV flown as an intra-European route.
Jan 30, 2015, 8:28 pm
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Those eggs could be oneworld (all economy within Euro seemed not to be too much of a barrier for airberlin), JBA or no (but if yes, as revenue is shared it makes little difference if it's AA or EI to the U.S.), what FFPs changes might occur a la Iberia Plus and BAEC, all to be decided in some future.
Interestingly, Michael O'Leary sounds fine with the IAG proposal, but one must take the diversity of the Irish political spectrum and government into the equation before we can count on any chock at all. From resistance to downsizing the workforce to calls for nationalization, ouch!
Jan 31, 2015, 10:52 am
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To me, it makes a difference in seating whether the flight is a daytime flight or a redeye.
Jan 31, 2015, 4:57 pm
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It is a big if!
Besides the financial considerations to be made by the Irish government and FR, both of which own substantial chunks of EI, there are political considerations.
There is a great deal of speculation that IAG's interest in EI is largely for EI's LHR slots. Those in Ireland want to continue to be able to utilize LHR, but worry that BA will drastically (if not entirely) eliminate DUB-LHR service in favor of other London area airports.
There is also a great deal of consideration to be made to jobs being made redundant by the merger. Even if IAG commits to keep jobs in Ireland, politicians won't to face voters who fear losses nonetheless; one can imagine the headlines that will likely come, if the acquisition goes through, and down the road IAG finds that is no longer viable to live up to its commitments to keep jobs in Ireland.
There are some in Ireland that may not be ready for British ownership of their flag carrier.
Nov 18, 2016, 6:57 pm
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Aer Lingus
May be coming to Oneworld. Mods feel free to move. I did not see it in Oneworld or AA forums.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...-ceo/94064688/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...-ceo/94064688/
Nov 18, 2016, 9:44 pm
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USA Today, above:
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Translation: probably in 2017, "sometime". Maybe early?
There are two places to discuss Aer Lingus until it rejoins oneworld and we discuss earning, burning AAdvantage miles, EQM, etc.
The oneworld forum, and the Aer Lingus forum: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aer-l...-oneworld.html.
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Walsh said it was too early to set a precise date for when Aer Lingus might officially join.
“We don’t have a specific timeline. We’re working as quickly as we can," he said.
“We don’t have a specific timeline. We’re working as quickly as we can," he said.
WASHINGTON -- Irish carrier Aer Lingus could join the oneworld frequent-flier alliance as soon as next year, though the timing remains in flux.
That’s according to Willie Walsh, CEO of the International Airlines Group (IAG) that includes Aer Lingus as well as British Airways, Iberia and Spanish low-cost carrier Vueling.
“The plan is Aer Lingus will rejoin the oneworld alliance and therefore will benefit from the arrangements that apply,” Walsh said in an interview with Today in the Sky last week.
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“We’re also intending to bring Aer Lingus into the trans-Atlantic joint business that we have with Finnair and American Airlines,” Walsh said, noting that there’s some overlap in the efforts to bring Aer Lingus into those tie-ups.
That’s according to Willie Walsh, CEO of the International Airlines Group (IAG) that includes Aer Lingus as well as British Airways, Iberia and Spanish low-cost carrier Vueling.
“The plan is Aer Lingus will rejoin the oneworld alliance and therefore will benefit from the arrangements that apply,” Walsh said in an interview with Today in the Sky last week.
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“We’re also intending to bring Aer Lingus into the trans-Atlantic joint business that we have with Finnair and American Airlines,” Walsh said, noting that there’s some overlap in the efforts to bring Aer Lingus into those tie-ups.
There are two places to discuss Aer Lingus until it rejoins oneworld and we discuss earning, burning AAdvantage miles, EQM, etc.
The oneworld forum, and the Aer Lingus forum: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aer-l...-oneworld.html.
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Nov 18, 2016, 10:51 pm
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I had a BA agent confirm to me at LHR last Tuesday that it is likely to happen in January of next year. YMMV.
Nov 19, 2016, 2:09 am
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It is likely that in 2017 oneworld will have Aer Lingus in and airberlin out.