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Speculation: Future changes to AAdvantage program? (Consolidated thread)
Please update as any concrete information becomes available.

This situation changed with JonNYC's revelations here and on travelingbetter.com on November 5, 2015. Please see the current thread, 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes for further discussion. This speculation thread has now been archived.

Q. What do we know at this point?

Nothing.

Q. When would a change occur?

We don't know.

Q. Will there be changes?

We don't know.

Q. Are there clues?
Mr. Parker stated there would be no changes for 2015.

Mr. Parker said he'd not be averse to using others' ideas if they worked.

28 Sep 2015: AA spokesperson Laura Nedbal to Gary Leff:
"If we were to issue changes like this we would be certain to give plenty of advanced notice."
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
.... Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. Manufactured spend is the new mileage run...
You said it too bad miles arent easily manufactured everywhere...
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:41 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320

The way I see it, HVCs used to qualified on EQP by purchasing more valuable fares and being rewarded for doing so, while also avoiding the O/Q type fares.

Now, it seems one could fly a few 20,000 mile O/Q fares and still qualify for EXP, while earning a few less SUWs in the process.
Sounds to me like there will be EQM bonus for certain fare classes, so HVFs will still be rewarded, whilst not punishing those flying cheap Y fares.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by bse118
Sounds to me like there will be EQM bonus for certain fare classes, so HVFs will still be rewarded, whilst not punishing those flying cheap Y fares.
Fair enough. But the reality of the mileage-running EXP is still alive and well. Not saying I have anything against these individuals, however it seems like this was exactly the kind of client DL and UA have been trying to rid themselves of, while AA now seems to be catering to...
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:45 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320
Fair enough. But the reality of the mileage-running EXP is still alive and well. Not saying I have anything against these individuals, however it seems like this was exactly the kind of client DL and UA have been trying to rid themselves of, while AA now seems to be catering to...
Except now with the new deep discounted main cabin product/fare they won't earn as many miles ;-)
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by schwimmair
Ugh, thank you for the heads up. I'm at about 70K miles right now and was thinking about doing a few trips to re-qualify for EXP but not sure if I will do that now with the decrease in SWU's.

Thanks again, one of the threads of the year for sure!
My pleasure! I think it's been one of the busiest nights in recent AA forum history. Travelingbetter has has 400-500 people logged in for hours, which is unprecedented as well.

As far as your first paragraph, maybe (probably even) I'm misreading-- but you're talking about 70K this year? Contemplating of MRs to fill in? It's still 8 SWUs this year if you qualify this year for 2016 elite year. Again, maybe I misunderstood.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Juanefny
Except now with the new deep discounted main cabin product/fare they won't earn as many miles ;-)
Yes, but (at least IMO) RDMs take a back seat to EQMs/Ps. For those who choose to remain loyal, they do so for the status, not the redeemable miles. Of course, YMMV.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:52 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Will be all EQMs, solving the problem of a "mixed" flyer where a few premium/full-Y/etc tickets get buried (and therefore unrewarded) under AAdv's current system.
I am just realizing how awesome and beneficial to most people this is. Under the current system, someone buying a mix of discount Y and premium fares is diluting their efforts, earning .5 eqps/mile and 1.5 eqps/mile, respectively, and leading to a confusing strategy as to whether to qualify on miles or points. Now, they will be earning 1 eqm/mile and 2-3x eqms/mile, respectively for those fares, leading to a more cohesive/integrated approach, and definitely more rewarding one. In the future, someone using a mixed approach will likely get more SWUs than the 8 they will get before. (assuming they were between 100k-140k eqps, before the 2 extra SWUs could be requested with today's system).
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