This is normal for AA redemptions on BA. If you search, there are lots of threads about this. It has been this way with BA for many years now. The exorbitant fees are unique to BA, but not everyone is against at least having the option available.
That said, most people here wouldn't consider Norwegian's premium seat to come anywhere close to a true lie-flat product. (I wouldn't fly BA's J either in most cases, because it's so narrow, but still; Norwegian is just an extra-reclining recliner like the old Virgin America product). In any event, AA flies true lie-flat business class seats into CDG from MIA, DFW, CLT, PHL, JFK, and ORD. You can get to all those cities nonstop from SFO, including various lie-flat options on those, too. Of course, odds of finding a "saver" redemption SFO-XXX-CDG on your preferred dates are nearly zero, but you should still set ExpertFlyer alerts (for each TATL leg individually and for the 2-segment itineraries) in case it pops up -- total of 12 alerts. If availability does pop up, you may be able to redeem 57,500 miles and $5.60-11.20 for an excellent all-AA itinerary. It just takes some work and luck. |
Originally Posted by RickR
(Post 30759902)
For about the same money I got a premium seat, non stop, on Norwegian. No miles.
Point accrual: https://en.norwegianreward.com/earn-...avel/norwegian Status benefits: https://en.norwegianreward.com/about-us/about-rewards |
Originally Posted by Some person
(Post 30760515)
What do you mean? To my knowledge, you earn points on all Norwegian flights.
Point accrual: https://en.norwegianreward.com/earn-...avel/norwegian Status benefits: https://en.norwegianreward.com/about-us/about-rewards |
Originally Posted by platbrownguy
(Post 30759919)
This is normal for AA redemptions on BA. If you search, there are lots of threads about this. It has been this way with BA for many years now. The exorbitant fees are unique to BA, but not everyone is against at least having the option available.
That said, most people here wouldn't consider Norwegian's premium seat to come anywhere close to a true lie-flat product. (I wouldn't fly BA's J either in most cases, because it's so narrow, but still; Norwegian is just an extra-reclining recliner like the old Virgin America product). In any event, AA flies true lie-flat business class seats into CDG from MIA, DFW, CLT, PHL, JFK, and ORD. You can get to all those cities nonstop from SFO, including various lie-flat options on those, too. Of course, odds of finding a "saver" redemption SFO-XXX-CDG on your preferred dates are nearly zero, but you should still set ExpertFlyer alerts (for each TATL leg individually and for the 2-segment itineraries) in case it pops up -- total of 12 alerts. If availability does pop up, you may be able to redeem 57,500 miles and $5.60-11.20 for an excellent all-AA itinerary. It just takes some work and luck. |
At least flying British Airways, you know the airline is not going to go past bust anytime soon. unlike Norwegian that is on rocky financial ground. |
Did you look at possible LAX-CDG availability using AA miles on TN / Air Tahiti Nui?
See https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...er-thread.html https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ssistance.html https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...nnections.html |
A premium seat on Norwegian is actually more like a Premium Economy seat on most other TATL flights. As bad as BA Metal is, their Business Class seat and service is much better than Norwegian. |
Originally Posted by RickR
(Post 30759902)
Also I find AA award itineraries feature extraneous stops and connections usually. Award travel on AA is not as useful as it used to be.
Norwegian may actually be in business long enough to fly you to Paris and back. :) |
Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 30761073)
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Norwegian may actually be in business long enough to fly you to Paris and back. :) |
When you get results on AA, uncheck the BA box and IF there are any options left you will see a reasonable tax/fees. BA scam charges make any award a joke.
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Originally Posted by RickR
(Post 30759902)
I wanted to use some of my AA mileage to get to Paris. I found a one-stop/change Business class itinerary from SFO to CDG - with fees of about $600!
For about the same money I got a premium seat, non stop, on Norwegian. No miles. The AA flights were actually on BA. These exorbitant fees to use miles must be to compensate BA? Also I find AA award itineraries feature extraneous stops and connections usually. Award travel on AA is not as useful as it used to be. I used this list of direct AA flights from the Wiki: AMS - PHL, DFW(s) ATH - ORD (s), PHL(s) BCN - CLT(s), JFK, MIA, ORD(s), PHL(s) BLQ - PHL(s) BUD - PHL(s) CDG - CLT (s), DFW, JFK, MIA, ORD (s), PHL DBV - PHL(s) DUB - CLT(s), DFW(s), ORD(s), PHL EDI - PHL(s) FCO - CLT(s), JFK (s), ORD(s), PHL, DFW(s) FRA - CLT, DFW KEF - DFW (s) LIS - PHL(s) LHR - CLT, DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA, ORD, PHL, PHX (s), RDU MAD - CLT(s), DFW, JFK, MIA, PHL MAN - PHL MUC - CLT, DFW(s), PHL (ends March 30, 2019) MXP - JFK, MIA PRG - PHL(s) SNN - PHL(s) TXL - PHL(s) VCE - PHL(s), ORD(s) ZRH - PHL |
Originally Posted by zebranz
(Post 30762601)
When you get results on AA, uncheck the BA box and IF there are any options left you will see a reasonable tax/fees. BA scam charges make any award a joke.
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy
(Post 30759919)
...AA flies true lie-flat business class seats into CDG from MIA, DFW, CLT, PHL, JFK, and ORD. You can get to all those cities nonstop from SFO, including various lie-flat options on those, too. Of course, odds of finding a "saver" redemption SFO-XXX-CDG on your preferred dates are nearly zero, but you should still set ExpertFlyer alerts (for each TATL leg individually and for the 2-segment itineraries) in case it pops up -- total of 12 alerts. If availability does pop up, you may be able to redeem 57,500 miles and $5.60-11.20 for an excellent all-AA itinerary. It just takes some work and luck.
[well aware that Norwegian is not in the same class at the front of the plane - but perfectly good enough for me. Their economy seating on 787s is quite competitive.) |
Originally Posted by RickR
(Post 30828992)
Plat - I was able to get a return for 57.5K miles - CDG-LHR on BA, then AA to LAX and on to SFO. I may try to improve that itinerary using some of the useful advice on this site. Thanks.
[well aware that Norwegian is not in the same class at the front of the plane - but perfectly good enough for me. Their economy seating on 787s is quite competitive.) |
Originally Posted by RickR
(Post 30828992)
Plat - I was able to get a return for 57.5K miles - CDG-LHR on BA, then AA to LAX and on to SFO. I may try to improve that itinerary using some of the useful advice on this site. Thanks.
[well aware that Norwegian is not in the same class at the front of the plane - but perfectly good enough for me. Their economy seating on 787s is quite competitive.)
Originally Posted by platbrownguy
(Post 30829665)
Great -- glad to hear you pulled off LHR-LAX on AA for 57.5k -- that's definitely the hard part of that puzzle.
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