Oct 10, 2013, 11:39 am
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: The nine low MTOW Pratt & Whitney PW4168 engine equipped Airbus Industrie A330-300s had been scheduled for retirement (returned to lessor at end of lease) by late 2018 2021 now due to poor "fit" in the AA fleet (link). (The A330-200s, with more compatible Rolls Royce Trent 700 engines, will continue, however.)
Premium Economy and extended Main Cabin Extra are not expected to be installed on the A330-300, at this time. It’s unpredictable if they might be refutted with the extended retirement dates.
Link to Combined AA Fleet page
For the specific thread about the Zodiac Envoy Business seat, please see LUS A330 "Envoy" Lie Flat All Aisle Access Business Seats (master thread)
Also see the older, archived thread on Envoy seating on the A330:
A330-200 Envoy Suites
Link to Seatguru for AA A330-300
Envoy / Business:
* Rows 1 to 7, 4 across, private "suites"
* Seats A and H have windows and aisle access, angle out toward windows
* Seats C and F are both in the middle, angle in toward center (no windows)
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA and USB power
Economy:
* Rows 8 through 40
* Configured in a 2-4-2 pattern (A and H are windows with B/G beside them)
* Exits at row 25
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA
New Livery (AA-style) of the A330-300:
A333 in New Livery
Link to archived older posts (back to 2011) from this thread.
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Premium Economy and extended Main Cabin Extra are not expected to be installed on the A330-300, at this time. It’s unpredictable if they might be refutted with the extended retirement dates.
Link to Combined AA Fleet page
For the specific thread about the Zodiac Envoy Business seat, please see LUS A330 "Envoy" Lie Flat All Aisle Access Business Seats (master thread)
Also see the older, archived thread on Envoy seating on the A330:
A330-200 Envoy Suites
Link to Seatguru for AA A330-300
Envoy / Business:
* Rows 1 to 7, 4 across, private "suites"
* Seats A and H have windows and aisle access, angle out toward windows
* Seats C and F are both in the middle, angle in toward center (no windows)
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA and USB power
Economy:
* Rows 8 through 40
* Configured in a 2-4-2 pattern (A and H are windows with B/G beside them)
* Exits at row 25
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA
New Livery (AA-style) of the A330-300:
A333 in New Livery
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AA Airbus A330-300 / 333 [master thread]
Apr 20, 2016, 11:56 am
#31
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If you use Seatguru it tells you that these seats are Main cabin extra but with restricted legroom. They show up yellow on the chart. Another gotcha is on the A321 exit row 22. The seats are 3" narrower. First time I sat in one I didn't check Seatguru and was quite shocked at how narrow they are. Now I always check there before selecting my seat.
Apr 20, 2016, 12:06 pm
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To report back, I flew in 8A on Sunday CDG-CLT...8A and B were blocked until 24 hours before departure, at which point I grabbed them. For a daytime flight, these seats were perfect. The bulkhead wall is in front of these seats, but there is much more legroom than a narrowbody A319/320. I'm 5'11" and I could extend my legs almost fully. I could easily get out of my seat without my wife needing to move in 8B. For an overnight flight, the light and noise from the galley may be an issue, but no issue flying westbound from Europe.
I am 6'4' and just moved over from the luxury of United E+ with great legroom , even the bulkheads have cutouts so I can put my legs fully out.
Anyway, with AA/US planes I have to always just use Exit rows as NONE of their planes have a cutout on the bulkhead.
I will be flying to UK with my 4 year old, so will not be able to use exit row, did you get a chance to see what the 'preferred ' seats are like behind row 8? I will not be able to put my legs straight on row 8, but can on next row, but I am concerned , as with any standard seat, that I will not be able to get my knees in. Always a catch 22 with AA planes , I am finding - cannot put legs out on bulkhead ' extra' seats, but cannot get knees in a standard seat, hence exit row.
Any help appreciated.
thx
Apr 20, 2016, 1:12 pm
#33
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Hi,
I am 6'4' and just moved over from the luxury of United E+ with great legroom , even the bulkheads have cutouts so I can put my legs fully out.
Anyway, with AA/US planes I have to always just use Exit rows as NONE of their planes have a cutout on the bulkhead.
I will be flying to UK with my 4 year old, so will not be able to use exit row, did you get a chance to see what the 'preferred ' seats are like behind row 8? I will not be able to put my legs straight on row 8, but can on next row, but I am concerned , as with any standard seat, that I will not be able to get my knees in. Always a catch 22 with AA planes , I am finding - cannot put legs out on bulkhead ' extra' seats, but cannot get knees in a standard seat, hence exit row.
Any help appreciated.
thx
I am 6'4' and just moved over from the luxury of United E+ with great legroom , even the bulkheads have cutouts so I can put my legs fully out.
Anyway, with AA/US planes I have to always just use Exit rows as NONE of their planes have a cutout on the bulkhead.
I will be flying to UK with my 4 year old, so will not be able to use exit row, did you get a chance to see what the 'preferred ' seats are like behind row 8? I will not be able to put my legs straight on row 8, but can on next row, but I am concerned , as with any standard seat, that I will not be able to get my knees in. Always a catch 22 with AA planes , I am finding - cannot put legs out on bulkhead ' extra' seats, but cannot get knees in a standard seat, hence exit row.
Any help appreciated.
thx
Apr 20, 2016, 1:49 pm
#34
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Apr 20, 2016, 7:57 pm
#35
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If you use Seatguru it tells you that these seats are Main cabin extra but with restricted legroom. They show up yellow on the chart. Another gotcha is on the A321 exit row 22. The seats are 3" narrower. First time I sat in one I didn't check Seatguru and was quite shocked at how narrow they are. Now I always check there before selecting my seat.
As a point of reference, seat 10A on the LUS A321 is 17.8" wide between armrests and 6B is 18.4" wide.
May 6, 2016, 3:39 pm
#36
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I've read most of the pages in this thread, but are all of the A333s update with new interior matching the A332s in economy? There strangely are not many recent A333 interior pics online.
Also, apologies if this has been answered before, but do the economy preferred seats on long haul open up to all customers at any point? Looking for a window seat on an upcoming flight, and all 16 rows left are "preferred". :/
Also, apologies if this has been answered before, but do the economy preferred seats on long haul open up to all customers at any point? Looking for a window seat on an upcoming flight, and all 16 rows left are "preferred". :/
May 9, 2016, 3:09 pm
#38
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Do they still have the same small AVOD screens on the Y seatbacks as before (when the seats were grey cloth)? Or are they the large screens that exist on the 332s?
May 10, 2016, 12:39 pm
#39
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May 10, 2016, 3:11 pm
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No, thats wrong. The 333s have exactly the same cabins as the 332s with the exception of wall panels and overhead bins which are the older Airbus design. The screens were replaced when the 333s were refur'd in 2011/12.
What bridge29 is referring to is that some interior fixtures like bulkheads and seat cloths have been updated to the AA-design like so:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFE77TFPcT/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFEuqdFPb9/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFFEtYlPce/
What bridge29 is referring to is that some interior fixtures like bulkheads and seat cloths have been updated to the AA-design like so:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFE77TFPcT/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFEuqdFPb9/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFFEtYlPce/
May 10, 2016, 7:12 pm
#41
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No, thats wrong. The 333s have exactly the same cabins as the 332s with the exception of wall panels and overhead bins which are the older Airbus design. The screens were replaced when the 333s were refur'd in 2011/12.
What bridge29 is referring to is that some interior fixtures like bulkheads and seat cloths have been updated to the AA-design like so:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFE77TFPcT/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFEuqdFPb9/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFFEtYlPce/
What bridge29 is referring to is that some interior fixtures like bulkheads and seat cloths have been updated to the AA-design like so:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFE77TFPcT/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFEuqdFPb9/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFFEtYlPce/
May 10, 2016, 7:26 pm
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Define small. Because the AVOD screens on the backs of the 332 Y seats seem pretty big (for an AVOD screen in Y, that is). I haven't flown on a redone 333. But those AVOD screens (the original delivery ones) were pretty small. Kind of like the ones on AA's unrefurbished 772s.
May 12, 2016, 4:27 pm
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Flying this PHL - MAD with the girlfriend (night flight). The cabin is wide-open, it seems like either 3 or 4 would be the best balance of avoiding noise/light from galley/restrooms but not being all the way back towards Y?
Or since it is a nighttime flight are we better off just snagging two window seats around rows 3 and 4 for the additional privacy for sleeping?
Or since it is a nighttime flight are we better off just snagging two window seats around rows 3 and 4 for the additional privacy for sleeping?
May 12, 2016, 5:09 pm
#44
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Thanks for the clarification on the 333 interior. From the Instagram links posted above, I also see the same user posted a comparison of the 332 vs 333 cabins:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFGDhHlPeN/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEFGDhHlPeN/