2008 Route Cuts / Changes etc.: Check here for updates (consolidated)
May 27, 2008, 4:42 pm
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Thanks!
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May 27, 2008, 4:48 pm
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Thanks for the release, AAFA!
The post was moved to this thread, as MAH4546 has kindly offered to keep this thread updated as a resource on the upcoming changes (adding even new and seasonal routes, etc.)
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The post was moved to this thread, as MAH4546 has kindly offered to keep this thread updated as a resource on the upcoming changes (adding even new and seasonal routes, etc.)
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May 27, 2008, 4:48 pm
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May 27, 2008, 4:55 pm
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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080527/latu524.html?.v=10
Press Release Source: American Airlines
Press Release Source: American Airlines
AA To Reaccomodate Customers Impacted By Schedule Reductions
May 27, 2008, 4:55 pm
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Is this really true? It has been posted here multiple times that AA does not really push 777 utilization, and indeed AA has leased out spare 777s over the last few years (to Boeing and ??). That being so, are they really losing 777 capacity because of the new Peking route?
May 27, 2008, 5:01 pm
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When Beijing was Peking, AA was still flying DC-3s. 
May 27, 2008, 5:21 pm
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ORD-HNL is a very sad route to lose. I used to choose HNL-ORD then on to New York since I could sleep the longest in F. I hope the YUP fares for NY-HNL do not go through the roof now. Didn't they used to fly this two times a day? I guess it was not profitable to drop a DFW flight and do one ORD-HNL and one LAX-HNL instead.
May 27, 2008, 5:30 pm
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ORD-EZE effects me more than ORD-HNL.
OTOH, MIA-ANU is very helpful for holidays if the connection times work for me.
OTOH, MIA-ANU is very helpful for holidays if the connection times work for me.
May 27, 2008, 5:44 pm
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I just spoke with an EXP rep who was quite peeved that they had not been informed about these changes. Further, all the ORD-EZE flights are still in the res system well after 9/3.
I was scheduled to do this route again in late Sept. Glad I accidentally stumbled upon the news at AA.com so I could make alternate reservations through DFW.
I'm afraid this is just the beginning.
I was scheduled to do this route again in late Sept. Glad I accidentally stumbled upon the news at AA.com so I could make alternate reservations through DFW.
I'm afraid this is just the beginning.
May 27, 2008, 6:34 pm
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The press release states that ORD-HNL will continue to operate on "key days". My guess is 3x weekly, but I can't figure out which days that would be. Backing out from the 763 utilization schedule isn't giving me a whole lotta clues either.
May 27, 2008, 6:49 pm
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I agree that this is just the beginning, but these reductions so far seem pretty tame (though HNL-ORD seems the most painful).
When they added ORD-EZE recently, I thought it was excess capacity - destination seems well covered by DFW, MIAx2 777, and the JFK 763/777. While I know it's not AA metal, LAN Chile offers connections through to SA that they could slap a code-share on to appear to minimize capacity reduction.
My personal hope is that LGA doesn't get hit too hard, there there are a number of destinations served (primarily by eagle) that seem ripe for schedule reduction (not route cancellation).
I don't think much at JFK is at risk (maybe STN.....)
When they added ORD-EZE recently, I thought it was excess capacity - destination seems well covered by DFW, MIAx2 777, and the JFK 763/777. While I know it's not AA metal, LAN Chile offers connections through to SA that they could slap a code-share on to appear to minimize capacity reduction.
My personal hope is that LGA doesn't get hit too hard, there there are a number of destinations served (primarily by eagle) that seem ripe for schedule reduction (not route cancellation).
I don't think much at JFK is at risk (maybe STN.....)
May 27, 2008, 7:02 pm
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Miami might see increased service, but that's TBD. Miami's revenue is largely international, and AA needs more of that. It remains an extremely profitable operation, thanks to the Latin/Caribbean services that have extremely low break-even load-factors. Miami-St. Kitts & Nevis, for example, barely averages a year-round 65% loadfactor, but it can break-even at a 40% load.
STN has been doing well; it's definitely not totally immune, but I think people underestimate what a solid performer it has been.
May 27, 2008, 7:03 pm
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With the reduction of A300s, there probably will be a reduction in Caribbean flying out of JFK. I agree STN will probably go. Also BDA will probably go to one a day. Not sure how well they do on cargo but if cargo is not a money maker, perhaps the 762 flight will be eliminated.
May 27, 2008, 7:33 pm
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Lga-msp
LGA-MSP disappears as of May 31st (I was suppoed to fly this next month, but found out at least a month ago that they were cancelling all the N/S, thus necessisitating a stop in ORD).
May 27, 2008, 8:02 pm
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A well connected poster on another board is mentioning some STL cutbacks, including elimination of all 757 service with the exception of 2x MIA. A number of routes losing mainline, including RSW, AUS, RDU and SAT.
Also talk of LAS and TPA going away, as well as some other RJ routes.
Also talk of LAS and TPA going away, as well as some other RJ routes.