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2008 Route Cuts / Changes etc.: Check here for updates (consolidated)

2008 Route Cuts / Changes etc.: Check here for updates (consolidated)

 
Old May 27, 08, 3:16 pm
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2008 Route Cuts / Changes etc.: Check here for updates (consolidated)

Routes Discontinues between 01NOV08 and 03NOV08

Dallas-Flint
Dallas-Harrisburg
Dallas-Nassau
Dallas-Rochester
Dallas-San Salvador
Dallas-Syracuse

LaGuardia-Boston
LaGuardia-Cincinnati
LaGuardia-Charlotte
LaGuardia-Cleveland
LaGuardia-Louisville
LaGuardia-Memphis
LaGuardia-Pittsburgh
LaGuardia-Washington Reagan

Los Angeles-San Luis Obispo

Miami-Barranquilla

O'Hare-Albany
O'Hare-Baton Rouge
O'Hare-Biloxi/Gulfport
O'Hare-Birmingham
O'Hare-Dayton
O'Hare-Fort Walton Beach
O'Hare-Greer, S.C.
O'Hare-Harrisburg
O'Hare-Jackson, Miss.
O'Hare-Lexington
O'Hare-Mobile
O'Hare-Pensacola
O'Hare-Portland, Ore.
O'Hare-Providence

Raleigh-Jacksonville
Raleigh-Kansas City
Raleigh-Louisville
Raleigh-Newark

St. Louis-Baltimore
St. Louis-Columbus
St. Louis-JFK
St. Louis-Orange County

Other changes at the start of November
*Dallas-Buenos Aires, daily 777 seasonal service on 02NOV08
*Dallas-Sao Paulo, daily 777 year-round service on 02NOV08
*Los Angeles-El Paso, new service starting 02NOV08; daily ERJ-140

*Miami-Antigua launch moved forward to 02NOV08.
*Miami-Grenada launch moved forward to 02NOV08.
*Miami-Heathrow will now have a second daily operating on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays.
*Miami-Madrid, daily 777 year-round service on 02NOV08
*Miami-Santiago de Chile, daily 777 seasonal service on 02NOV08.
*Miami-Sao Paulo 3x daily 777 service on 02NOV08.
*Miami-Sao Paulo, fourth daily peak seasonal flight 20DEC08-29JAN09.




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UPDATED JUNE 4 2008: SDQ-SXM

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I will continue to update this list as possible with upcoming route changes.

NOTE: Airline reservation systems are only updates once a week, early Saturday mornings (1AM-4AM EST). There is no sense in trying to change your reservations for flight cuts announce during the week until Saturday, because reservation systems will not have the changes loaded.

-----DISCONTINUED SERVICE-------------

31MAY08:

Fort Lauderdale-Santo Domingo

LaGuardia-Minneapolis

02JUL08:

Dallas Love-Austin (American Eagle/MQ)
Dallas Love-Kansas City (American Eagle/MQ)

JFK-London/STN

03SEP08:

Austin-Orange County
Austin-Raleigh
Austin-Seattle

Boston-San Diego

Chicago-Buenos Aires

Dallas-Oakland

LaGuardia-Raleigh (will still be flown by American Eagle)

Los Angeles-Fort Lauderdale
Los Angeles-San Antonio

San Juan-Antigua (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Aruba (America Eagle/Executive)
San Juan-Baltimore
San Juan-Fort Lauderdale
San Juan-Los Angeles
San Juan-Orlando
San Juan-St. Maarten (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-St. Thomas (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Samana, DR (American Eagle/Executive)
San Juan-Santo Domingo (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Washington Dulles
St. Louis-Raleigh (will still be flown by AmericanConnection)
St. Louis-San Antonio (will still be flown by AmericanConnection)

Santo Domingo-St. Maarten

Washington/Reagan-Fayetteville, AK (American Eagle/MQ)

05JAN09:

Chicago-Honolulu

--------NEW SERVICE---------------

01JUN08

Chicago-Wausau, Wisconsin (American Eagle/MQ)

Dallas-Buffalo (American Eagle/MQ; seasonal through 03SEP08)

Fort Lauderdale-Kingston

02JUN08

Chicago-Moscow/Domodedovo

07JUL08

LaGuardia-Cedar Rapids (American Eagle/MQ)

Chicago-Dallas Love Field (American Eagle/MQ)

20NOV08

Miami-Antigua
Miami-Grenada

07APR09

Chicago-Beijing


-----WINTER 2008/09 SKI SERVICE--------------

Note: Routes are 18Dec08 through 06Apr09 unless noted.

Chicago-Jackson Hole
Chicago-Steamboat Springs
Chicago-Vail/Eagle

Dallas-Gunninson
Dallas-Jackon Hole (12Jun08 through 30Sep08; 18Dec08 through 06Apr09)
Dallas-Montrose (12Jun08 through 06Apr09)
Dallas-Steamboat Springs
Dallas-Vail/Eagle (12Jun08 through 06Apr09)

LaGuardia-Vail/Eagle (20Dec08 through 04Apr09)

Los Angeles-Vail/Eagle

Miami-Vail/Eagle (20Dec08 through 05Apr09)

Newark-Vail/Eagle

---------REDUCED EUROPEAN FREQUENCIES (unconfirmed)--------

Expect the following reduced service on European routes from Chicago and JFK. European service from Dallas and Miami will not change.

Chicago-Dublin will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays
Chicago-Manchester will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays
Chicago-Rome will be suspended between November 2008 and April 2009.

JFK-Barcelona will not operate on Tuesdays
JFK-Milan will not operates on Mondays, Wednesdays
JFK-Rome will not operate on Tuesdays, Thursdays
JFK-Paris (AA 120 only) will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays

Last edited by MAH4546; Jun 29, 08 at 9:06 pm
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Old May 27, 08, 3:23 pm
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I'm none too pleased to see the ORD-EZE on the list. This route is fairly new, and I'm surprised it wasn't a profitable route for AA.
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Old May 27, 08, 3:25 pm
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I don't like it either, but we noticed the a/c were not full on our recent (May 13 & May 19) trip to / from EZE out of ORD. We selected ORD particularly because there was a ton of "C" availability and a reasonable V fare, and we speculated about the ability of AA to continue this flight without a valuable cargo load. It looks like our questions have been answered.
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Old May 27, 08, 3:29 pm
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MAH4546 has agreed to assume responsibility for editing updates into the OP - IMO think a capital idea. The route cuts discussed in the lengthly consolidated AMR-huge domestic fleet capacity reduction, $15 fee first checked bag... (consol) are getting lost in the now 17-40 page thread (depending on how member shave their defaults set.)

This thread is slightly retitled and made a consolidated thread, linked to in the Unofficial Users' Guide sticky.

A tip of the FlyerTalk baseball cap to MAH4546!

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Originally Posted by MAH4546 View Post
I will continue to update this list as possible with upcoming route cuts.

<canceled route list snipped>

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Old May 27, 08, 3:32 pm
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ORD-HNL ? Wow, that has been around for a long time...
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Old May 27, 08, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by elitetraveler View Post
ORD-HNL ? Wow, that has been around for a long time...
I am furious about this one - and I don't even live in ORD.

This will make HNL awards even harder to get - thanks a lot AA.

What moron in management came up with this one - geez...

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Old May 27, 08, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by freeupgrade View Post
I am furious about this one - and I don't even live in ORD.

This will make HNL awards even harder to get - thanks a lot AA.

What moron in management came up with this one - geez...

AA needs 763s to replace the lost 772 capacity going to Beijing in March.
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Old May 27, 08, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by miamigrad View Post
I'm none too pleased to see the ORD-EZE on the list. This route is fairly new, and I'm surprised it wasn't a profitable route for AA.
Me either, but I'm not too surprised. I'm a relatively frequent NYC-EZE traveler, and the ORD option was an easy way to pad the EQMs without going too far out of the way.

I guess it's back to DFW connections.
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Old May 27, 08, 4:04 pm
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I've got a pair of award tix on ORD-EZE for 12/29... I'd better give AA a call ASAP. Thanks for the heads up!
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Old May 27, 08, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by freeupgrade View Post
I am furious about this one - and I don't even live in ORD.

This will make HNL awards even harder to get - thanks a lot AA.

What moron in management came up with this one - geez...

While I'm not thrilled about losing (I almost feel like writing "loosing", considering how often I see that seplling here ) the route, I'm not sure too many in AA management, morons or not, are losing much sleep over the diminished AAward availability. Airlines fly routes to make money on the paying customers, not the free seats. Of course they want to keep AAward availability at a level where good customers can occasionally fly using miles, but I think it would be an even greater "moron" who kept a route going just because it made freebies easier. The planes, as MAH4546 says, are needed elsewhere.

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Old May 27, 08, 4:15 pm
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Are the routes listed in post #1 all being eliminated entirely, or are some of them just reduced frequency?
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Old May 27, 08, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by MAH4546 View Post
AA needs 763s to replace the lost 772 capacity going to Beijing in March.
Exactly. This is one of those instances where UA running the domestic-configuration really helps out, as they have a just a crapton of cargo capacity and can fill it to the gills ala Japanese domestic runs. I suspect that AA was able to command a slight premium in the F cabin due to the superior seats, but still lost out in cargo and CASM/RASM. Also don't forget that HNL is almost 10% further from ORD than LHR, and that's a long way for a premium aircraft to be flying a domestic run. The 763 can be used to serve an international route that is getting downgauged because of PEK service.

Also don't forget that AS has increased capacity in the islands recently, so this should help out with seats to the islands. This isn't as ideal as AA metal, but its still better than having to fly a non-AA partner
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Old May 27, 08, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by swag View Post
Are the routes listed in post #1 all being eliminated entirely, or are some of them just reduced frequency?
All routes listed in the original post are either:

1) Routes being eliminated entirely.
2) Routes which mainline is ending, but will still be served by Eagle/Connection.
3) Routes which Eagle/Connection is ending, but will still be served by mainline.
4) New routes.

No frequency reductions are listed.
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Old May 27, 08, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by MAH4546 View Post
AA needs 763s to replace the lost 772 capacity going to Beijing in March.
Ahh, I didn't think of it that way. I was thinking of 763s replacing MD80s where lots of frequency & volume exists today (e.g. ORD-LAX). While I wouldn't be surprised to see that in limited quantities, your suggestion might make more sense.

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Old May 27, 08, 4:39 pm
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Initial Capacity Reductions Announced

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080527/latu524.html?.v=10


Press Release Source: American Airlines


AMR Corporation Announces Initial Round of Capacity Reductions
Tuesday May 27, 4:50 pm ET
Skyrocketing Fuel Costs and Softening Economy Drive Changes


FORT WORTH, Texas, May 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AMR Corp. (NYSE: AMR - News) today announced the first round of reductions to its flight schedule as part of its previously announced plans to reduce capacity in an effort to significantly reduce costs and create a more sustainable supply-and-demand balance in the market. The actions come in the face of skyrocketing fuel prices and a softening economy.
The initial changes to the flight schedule include, but are not limited to:


-- Discontinuing its Chicago - Buenos Aires service effective Sept. 3.
-- Discontinuing its Chicago - Honolulu service Jan. 5, 2009. Between
September 3, 2008, and Jan. 5, 2009, American will operate
Chicago - Honolulu service only on peak demand days.
-- Discontinuing its Boston - San Diego service effective Sept. 3.
-- Restructuring American and American Eagle operations at San Juan,
Puerto Rico beginning in September. This round of reductions will
affect American and American Eagle flights originating from San Juan to
the United States and various islands in the Caribbean.


Customers impacted by the schedule changes will be contacted starting next week and re-accommodated on alternative flights.

In the coming weeks, AMR will continue to make additional schedule reductions in other markets and will assess the location- and route-specific impacts of those changes. This will be done to achieve plans to reduce AMR's fourth quarter mainline domestic capacity by 11 percent to 12 percent compared to 2007 levels and its fourth quarter regional affiliate capacity by 10 percent to 11 percent compared to 2007. Fourth quarter consolidated system capacity is expected to decline 7 percent to 8 percent year over year, including the capacity reductions that were announced earlier this year.

To effect these changes, AMR plans to retire 40-45 mainline aircraft (mostly MD-80s and some Airbus A300s) and 35-40 regional jets. In an effort to significantly reduce costs, American Eagle also will retire its Saab fleet by the end of the year.
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