Is new Intl upgrade fee a step toward two class intl flights?
Oct 13, 2004, 1:00 pm
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Is new Intl upgrade fee a step toward two class intl flights?
I know this is a wacky thought, but if they kill demand for J, they could strip it out and then just fly two classes. Charge more to people who want to upgrade since it's an F product, and jam more seats in the sapce where J was before.
I can see the marketing spin now, based on customer input, we're enhancing our intl flights to make more room in coach and give you the chance to upgrade directly to F.
I can see the marketing spin now, based on customer input, we're enhancing our intl flights to make more room in coach and give you the chance to upgrade directly to F.
Oct 13, 2004, 1:11 pm
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Or, as I've seen speculated elsewhere, will they eliminate Business in order to offer something similar to BA's WT+ or United's whatever they call it?
So they'd end up with Economy, Premier Economy and First/Business.
So they'd end up with Economy, Premier Economy and First/Business.
Oct 13, 2004, 1:14 pm
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Perhaps, but Business Class was invented to allow business-types to enjoy some level of increased comfort and yet avoid the accusations that they were frivilously wasting their employers' or shareholders' money by flying First Class (presumably something only rich people should be allowed to do). Wouldn't a complete abandonment of 3 class service cause the same sorts of difficulties that Business Class was invented to avoid? And some rich people DO fly paid F (or at least paid A). But maybe you're onto something.
Oct 13, 2004, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
Perhaps, but Business Class was invented to allow business-types to enjoy some level of increased comfort and yet avoid the accusations that they were frivilously wasting their employers' or shareholders' money by flying First Class (presumably something only rich people should be allowed to do). Wouldn't a complete abandonment of 3 class service cause the same sorts of difficulties that Business Class was invented to avoid? And some rich people DO fly paid F (or at least paid A). But maybe you're onto something.
Oct 13, 2004, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Spyder
I know this is a wacky thought, .
Oct 13, 2004, 2:36 pm
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AA does very well with the "real" F they have on the routes they acually kept it on.. LHR, GRU.. etc..
At my old company J was allowed for anything over 6 hours in the air, but F was never allowed.
At my old company J was allowed for anything over 6 hours in the air, but F was never allowed.
Oct 13, 2004, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by flipside
...At my old company J was allowed for anything over 6 hours in the air, but F was never allowed.
Oct 13, 2004, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by r3guru
Nah, they're putting better seats in C, taking MRTC out. I don't see the current 3 class equipment going down to 2. They may adjust the mix though, i.e. current 777s have 35 C seats, the new config may reduce that and will certainly increase the Y seats.
Oct 13, 2004, 5:40 pm
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OneWorld's membership requirements originally included 3 class international service, but with AA and BA backing off their 3 class service, that is probably a moot point.
But with AA only offering int'l F (3 classes) on its 777s, and apparently selling enough of it to warrant keeping it (not converting the 777s to 2 class like the 763s), then why would AA ditch it now?
But with AA only offering int'l F (3 classes) on its 777s, and apparently selling enough of it to warrant keeping it (not converting the 777s to 2 class like the 763s), then why would AA ditch it now?
Oct 13, 2004, 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by bbkenney
Better seats in business class? On what airplane?