ARCHIVE: American oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
Sep 9, 2014, 12:18 pm
#766
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I know that changing from a one-world award to a partner award triggers a change fee. What about vice versa, i.e. partner (AS) to one-world (US/AA)?
ETA:
To clarify, I believe there are three different scenarios I need clarification on:
1. From a one-world carrier to a partner award, e.g. BA to LY
1b. and vice versa, e.g. BA to LY and LY to BA.
2. From an all AA award to a partner award, e.g. AA to AS
2b. and vice versa, e.g. AS to AA.
3. From an all AA award to a one-world carrier, e.g. AA to BA
3b. and vice versa, e.g. BA to AA.
I believe that 1 requires change fee, though not sure about 1b.
Also, not sure on 2, 2b, 3, and 3b.
ETA:
To clarify, I believe there are three different scenarios I need clarification on:
1. From a one-world carrier to a partner award, e.g. BA to LY
1b. and vice versa, e.g. BA to LY and LY to BA.
2. From an all AA award to a partner award, e.g. AA to AS
2b. and vice versa, e.g. AS to AA.
3. From an all AA award to a one-world carrier, e.g. AA to BA
3b. and vice versa, e.g. BA to AA.
I believe that 1 requires change fee, though not sure about 1b.
Also, not sure on 2, 2b, 3, and 3b.
1/1b: change fee due
2/2b: change fee due
3/3b: no change fee
Sep 9, 2014, 12:26 pm
#767
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The change fee is waived if your origin and destination stay the same, and are switching carriers within the oneworld alliance. Anytime you're changing to or from partner carriers outside of oneworld, then the change fee will be due.
1/1b: change fee due
2/2b: change fee due
3/3b: no change fee
1/1b: change fee due
2/2b: change fee due
3/3b: no change fee
Sep 9, 2014, 4:30 pm
#768
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Have you looked at MH they have a direct flight from IST to KUL and you can fly on from there.
Sep 15, 2014, 8:20 am
#769
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Need clarification on Award Ticket Change rules
I have a RT award ticket with outbound as DAY-CLT-IAD-AUH-DEL on US and EY. I have inbound ticket as DEL-DOH-PHL-DAY on Qatar.
Now, I want to try CX and since it opens some award seats few days before travel, I want to make changes few days before travel. Will this involve any change fees since new itinerary DEL-HKG-JKF/ORD-DEL will be 2 awards?
Also, if I can push this and do a layover in BKK for 2 days(I know its not free), is there any way I can get away without paying the change fees. Any thoughts? TIA
Now, I want to try CX and since it opens some award seats few days before travel, I want to make changes few days before travel. Will this involve any change fees since new itinerary DEL-HKG-JKF/ORD-DEL will be 2 awards?
Also, if I can push this and do a layover in BKK for 2 days(I know its not free), is there any way I can get away without paying the change fees. Any thoughts? TIA
Sep 15, 2014, 8:27 am
#770
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I have a RT award ticket with outbound as DAY-CLT-IAD-AUH-DEL on US and EY. I have inbound ticket as DEL-DOH-PHL-DAY on Qatar.
Now, I want to try CX and since it opens some award seats few days before travel, I want to make changes few days before travel. Will this involve any change fees since new itinerary DEL-HKG-JKF/ORD-DEL will be 2 awards?
Also, if I can push this and do a layover in BKK for 2 days(I know its not free), is there any way I can get away without paying the change fees. Any thoughts? TIA
Now, I want to try CX and since it opens some award seats few days before travel, I want to make changes few days before travel. Will this involve any change fees since new itinerary DEL-HKG-JKF/ORD-DEL will be 2 awards?
Also, if I can push this and do a layover in BKK for 2 days(I know its not free), is there any way I can get away without paying the change fees. Any thoughts? TIA
Sep 15, 2014, 8:50 am
#771
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Sorry if I was not that clear. I will try to be more clearer:
RT award tickets on AA miles.
a. Outbound- DAY-CLT-IAD-AUH-DEL (On US airways and Etihad) on 20th Nov.
b. Inbound- DEL-DOH-PHL-DAY (on Qatar)- on 9th DEC 2014. All in business.
Now, I have 2 scenarios and just want to see if these will involve award ticket change fees:
1. If I change my inbound to DEL-HKG-JFK/ORD-DAY (This will be via pacific thus will need 2 awards). I am fine with 2 awards.
2. If I change my inbound to DEL-BKK (Layover)- BKK-HKG-JFK/ORD-DAY. Can I do that without incurring any change fees.
Technically, my origin and destination will be same but it will be 2 awards. TIA.
RT award tickets on AA miles.
a. Outbound- DAY-CLT-IAD-AUH-DEL (On US airways and Etihad) on 20th Nov.
b. Inbound- DEL-DOH-PHL-DAY (on Qatar)- on 9th DEC 2014. All in business.
Now, I have 2 scenarios and just want to see if these will involve award ticket change fees:
1. If I change my inbound to DEL-HKG-JFK/ORD-DAY (This will be via pacific thus will need 2 awards). I am fine with 2 awards.
2. If I change my inbound to DEL-BKK (Layover)- BKK-HKG-JFK/ORD-DAY. Can I do that without incurring any change fees.
Technically, my origin and destination will be same but it will be 2 awards. TIA.
Sep 15, 2014, 9:03 am
#772
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Sorry if I was not that clear. I will try to be more clearer:
RT award tickets on AA miles.
a. Outbound- DAY-CLT-IAD-AUH-DEL (On US airways and Etihad) on 20th Nov.
b. Inbound- DEL-DOH-PHL-DAY (on Qatar)- on 9th DEC 2014. All in business.
Now, I have 2 scenarios and just want to see if these will involve award ticket change fees:
1. If I change my inbound to DEL-HKG-JFK/ORD-DAY (This will be via pacific thus will need 2 awards). I am fine with 2 awards.
2. If I change my inbound to DEL-BKK (Layover)- BKK-HKG-JFK/ORD-DAY. Can I do that without incurring any change fees.
Technically, my origin and destination will be same but it will be 2 awards. TIA.
RT award tickets on AA miles.
a. Outbound- DAY-CLT-IAD-AUH-DEL (On US airways and Etihad) on 20th Nov.
b. Inbound- DEL-DOH-PHL-DAY (on Qatar)- on 9th DEC 2014. All in business.
Now, I have 2 scenarios and just want to see if these will involve award ticket change fees:
1. If I change my inbound to DEL-HKG-JFK/ORD-DAY (This will be via pacific thus will need 2 awards). I am fine with 2 awards.
2. If I change my inbound to DEL-BKK (Layover)- BKK-HKG-JFK/ORD-DAY. Can I do that without incurring any change fees.
Technically, my origin and destination will be same but it will be 2 awards. TIA.
1. the change to 2 awards triggers the fee (plus the additional miles, needless to say)
2. will also require a fee, and will require 2 awards compared to one as you have it now.
Once you change 2 two awards per direction, the origin and destination staying the same language is moot.
I'd say, if all is ticketed in business, you scored some pretty sweet awards there as-is!
Sep 15, 2014, 9:18 am
#773
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Thanks for clarifying, much easier this way!
1. the change to 2 awards triggers the fee (plus the additional miles, needless to say)
2. will also require a fee, and will require 2 awards compared to one as you have it now.
Once you change 2 two awards per direction, the origin and destination staying the same language is moot.
I'd say, if all is ticketed in business, you scored some pretty sweet awards there as-is!
1. the change to 2 awards triggers the fee (plus the additional miles, needless to say)
2. will also require a fee, and will require 2 awards compared to one as you have it now.
Once you change 2 two awards per direction, the origin and destination staying the same language is moot.
I'd say, if all is ticketed in business, you scored some pretty sweet awards there as-is!
Yes all are ticketed in business so I believe I will not touch this. May be will try CX some other time.
Sep 15, 2014, 9:22 am
#774
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Maybe one-way-- especially if CX F opens up! And since it also gives you the stop in BKK you desire. But, otherwise, I'd say those awards are pretty nice.
Sep 18, 2014, 11:34 am
#775
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There's something really weird about booking AAdvantage award flights to North America. I've been making dummy bookings from HEL to various cities on the northeast coast of the USA. Each time I get a lot of availability: AA, AB, BA, US. I filter BA out because of the ridiculous taxes and am still left with many great options.
However, all of these options return a "not available message", with the exception of flights involving AB. I've tried many dates in October, many cities, same result. What's the deal with this?
However, all of these options return a "not available message", with the exception of flights involving AB. I've tried many dates in October, many cities, same result. What's the deal with this?
Sep 24, 2014, 2:44 pm
#776
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Layover
I want to fly oneway BKK-HND-HIJ on JL.
If there are available connections at HND within 6 hours, do I need to take the connection flight or can I take an available flight the next day within 24 hours to make it only one oneway award?
If there are available connections at HND within 6 hours, do I need to take the connection flight or can I take an available flight the next day within 24 hours to make it only one oneway award?
Sep 24, 2014, 4:10 pm
#777
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If JL has a published through fare (not a constructed fare) BKK-HIJ that allows the HND routing, then any scheduled departure HND-HIJ not more than 24 hours from scheduled arrival BKK-HND should work to keep this a single one-way award.
Sep 24, 2014, 5:02 pm
#778
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Sep 24, 2014, 6:23 pm
#779
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Sep 26, 2014, 4:43 pm
#780
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Is LAX-NRT(Asia 1)-BKK (Asia 2) oneway award valid routing?
I just want to connect at NRT (or KIX) instead of HKG routing if possible.
I just want to connect at NRT (or KIX) instead of HKG routing if possible.