Last edit by: JDiver
The final DOT ruling on traveling with musical instruments can be found here:
http://www.dot.gov/sites/dot.gov/fil...nal%20rule.pdf
The language refers to small musical instruments as "carry-on baggage," and you'll find most US airlines have adopted that language in their baggage policies, including AA and US. One thing to note in the regs is that space must be available for the instrument and airlines are not required to move other carry-on luggage to make room for an instrument. But more importantly, the regs also state that airlines cannot move a stored musical instrument to make room for other passengers' baggage.
http://www.dot.gov/sites/dot.gov/fil...nal%20rule.pdf
The language refers to small musical instruments as "carry-on baggage," and you'll find most US airlines have adopted that language in their baggage policies, including AA and US. One thing to note in the regs is that space must be available for the instrument and airlines are not required to move other carry-on luggage to make room for an instrument. But more importantly, the regs also state that airlines cannot move a stored musical instrument to make room for other passengers' baggage.
does musical instrument (e.g. violin) count as a carry-on on AA?
#31
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I do carry full replacement value insurance for the instrument and the equipment. (i.e. if someone manages to steal the violin, it will be replaced with a $450,000 check.... very expensive insurance, plus the insurer requires an annual appraisal that costs $570 additional, but well worth it... duh!)
Nothing in the preceding posts gets you around that problem unless you do buy a seat for the violin.
You absolutely can bring the violin on as your carry-on as long as there is pace for it, the problem is you can't be sure they will let you bring the 21" roll-aboard as well. Since this contains electronics and irreplaceable documents you are gambling with something I know I'd prefer not to gamble with.
So consider packing those items into something smaller if you can, or back to the original suggestion of buying the seat.
#32
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Transport of violins especially has been fraught because the value can be so great, and degree of misinformation so extreme. I have a friend who, faced with an agent who insisted on her checking her violin, removed the instrument from its case, saying "this is my baby", and held it on her lap during the flight.
The law which took effect on March 6 unequivocally allows as cabin baggage any musical instrument which fits overhead or under the seat, provided there's room available when the passenger boards.
The ruling: http://www.dot.gov/sites/dot.gov/fil...nal%20rule.pdf
Press release: http://www.dot.gov/briefing-room/us-...travel-musical
Any instrument-toting traveler needing more carryon capacity than a small personal item might consider specialty outerwear with many pockets.
http://www.scottevest.com
#33
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The suggestion to buy a seat for any violin is appreciated, but impractical and unnecessary. Given a violin's small size of 31x10x5", the DOT ruling was designed to deem it a carryon, to clear up exactly this kind of confusion. In my 20+ year career, I have never known of a violinist who bought a seat or even considered it. (I'm a cellist, and I buy a seat for the cello).
The type of self-insurance needed to navigate the carryon situation for a small instrument is to buy group 1 boarding for yourself, not to buy an extra seat.
The type of self-insurance needed to navigate the carryon situation for a small instrument is to buy group 1 boarding for yourself, not to buy an extra seat.
#34
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Absent that requirement there would be no suggestion of the need to buy a seat for the violin ...
#35
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Just to keep this in context, the advice was due to the OP requiring a full sized carry-on which contained irreplaceable material which they could not risk having to check into the hold.
Absent that requirement there would be no suggestion of the need to buy a seat for the violin ...
Absent that requirement there would be no suggestion of the need to buy a seat for the violin ...
I suppose then I would suggest the OP buy a seat for the other bag containing irreplaceable materials, if other arrangements can't be made, like fitting those into a personal item or sending FedEx, etc.
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The suggestion to buy a seat for any violin is appreciated, but impractical and unnecessary. Given a violin's small size of 31x10x5", the DOT ruling was designed to deem it a carryon, to clear up exactly this kind of confusion. In my 20+ year career, I have never known of a violinist who bought a seat or even considered it. (I'm a cellist, and I buy a seat for the cello).
The type of self-insurance needed to navigate the carryon situation for a small instrument is to buy group 1 boarding for yourself, not to buy an extra seat.
The type of self-insurance needed to navigate the carryon situation for a small instrument is to buy group 1 boarding for yourself, not to buy an extra seat.