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teemuflyer Oct 25, 2012 7:54 am


Originally Posted by Fanjet (Post 19561723)
No it's not. AA's livery is classic. Even coca-cola realized that sometimes it isn't better to change the look.

As the article states, due to the composite makeup of the 787, the polished aluminium is not an option when those birds arrive, thus they need to come up with something new to maintain consistency of the brand.

FightingIlliniUAL Oct 25, 2012 7:59 am


Originally Posted by teemuflyer (Post 19562607)
As the article states, due to the composite makeup of the 787, the polished aluminium is not an option when those birds arrive, thus they need to come up with something new to maintain consistency of the brand.

I don't think this is the case. There is an effort to rebrand as they exit BK.

Microwave Oct 25, 2012 8:08 am


Originally Posted by Kachjc (Post 19561495)
this is exciting!!

As this directly relates to an existing thread on the 77W, I've gone ahead and merged this thread in. I've also updated the new thread title slightly to include speculation on new livery.

~Moderator

UNITED959 Oct 25, 2012 8:11 am


Originally Posted by FightingIlliniUAL (Post 19562628)
I don't think this is the case. There is an effort to rebrand as they exist BK.

I do agree that AA wants to rebrand as they upgrade the fleet (if the pics hold true, and service can match, AA is really shaping up to become the premium carrier in the USA), but I do believe a painted livery is due to the 787's composites (as well as composites that will undoubtedly be used in future aircraft) because AA has always touted the polished metal as being economical: less weight, less waste, lower costs, etc.

In these days of Prius enthusiasm and if/then mental processes to be followed when discarding a candy wrapper, I'd argue this is definitely not the time to be throwing latex chemicals and thinners onto 600+ aircraft for the sake of rebranding; rather, it must be done for the new aircraft on order since polishing metal is not an option.

teemuflyer Oct 25, 2012 8:23 am


Originally Posted by FightingIlliniUAL (Post 19562628)
I don't think this is the case. There is an effort to rebrand as they exit BK.

I agree that this is also part of the plan, but I was just stating that they couldn't maintain the polished aluminium as part of any rebranded livery due to the 787 composite components.

Fanjet Oct 25, 2012 10:46 am


Originally Posted by teemuflyer (Post 19562769)
I agree that this is also part of the plan, but I was just stating that they couldn't maintain the polished aluminium as part of any rebranded livery due to the 787 composite components.

Don't they make silver metallic paint for airplanes like they do for cars? How does Aeroflot do it for their 332s?

hillrider Oct 25, 2012 10:53 am


Originally Posted by Fanjet (Post 19563656)
How does Aeroflot do it for their 332s?

The paint looks completely different than the rest of the AA fleet:http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/7...1224938267.jpg

thomdis Oct 25, 2012 10:57 am


Originally Posted by hillrider (Post 19563707)
The paint looks completely different than the rest of the AA fleet:

True. And that color seems to blend into the sky as well. Somewhat similar to the A300s. Grey is not the best color in terms of visibility.

teemuflyer Oct 25, 2012 11:05 am


Originally Posted by thomdis (Post 19563732)
True. And that color seems to blend into the sky as well. Somewhat similar to the A300s. Grey is not the best color in terms of visibility.

Hmmm, is that the reason MIL planes are painted gray? ;)

thomdis Oct 25, 2012 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by teemuflyer (Post 19563783)
Hmmm, is that the reason MIL planes are painted gray? ;)

Precisely. Aeronautical camouflage.

dayone Oct 25, 2012 1:19 pm

An interesting interpretation:

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-co...w2PNAs4qfI.jpg

Torgen Oct 25, 2012 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by dayone (Post 19564558)

Makes me think of US.

Herb687 Oct 25, 2012 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by Fanjet (Post 19561723)
No it's not. AA's livery is classic. Even coca-cola realized that sometimes it isn't better to change the look.

Agree. AA would be stupid to ditch the scissor eagle logo. Minor tweaks like going from polished aluminum to paint, new typefaces or changing the striping could work but anyone who suggests ditching the scissor eagle is a fool (or a "branding consultant" hack out to make a quick buck).

The cool thing about the scissor eagle is that it can be dressed down (as when paired with the letters "AA" on the tail of airplanes) or dressed up (when just the eagle, without "AA", appears on things like premium cabin menus, interior panels, etc.)

Although this whole livery change idea smacks of rearranging the deck chairs on Titanic.

FightingIlliniUAL Oct 25, 2012 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by Herb687 (Post 19565354)
Agree. AA would be stupid to ditch the scissor eagle logo. Minor tweaks like going from polished aluminum to paint, new typefaces or changing the striping could work but anyone who suggests ditching the scissor eagle is a fool (or a "branding consultant" hack out to make a quick buck).

The cool thing about the scissor eagle is that it can be dressed down (as when paired with the letters "AA" on the tail of airplanes) or dressed up (when just the eagle, without "AA", appears on things like premium cabin menus, interior panels, etc.)

Although this whole livery change idea smacks of rearranging the deck chairs on Titanic.

Hell, if United could kill the tulip, anything is possible

grahampros Oct 25, 2012 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by Fanjet (Post 19561723)
No it's not. AA's livery is classic. Even coca-cola realized that sometimes it isn't better to change the look.

AA really has no choice to move away from the polished aluminum since it's not possible on the upcoming Airbus narrow bodies and 787 ( if and when those orders ever get confirmed).


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