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American Airlines and OpenSkies began a codeshare agreement in late 2011.
OpenSkies became part of the AA/BA/IB joint business venture on January 1, 2012.
OpenSkies became an affiliate oneworld airline on December 1, 2012.
Some additional details can be found on the AA website here and here.
-AAdvantage Moderator Team
American Airlines and OpenSkies began a codeshare agreement in late 2011.
OpenSkies became part of the AA/BA/IB joint business venture on January 1, 2012.
OpenSkies became an affiliate oneworld airline on December 1, 2012.
Some additional details can be found on the AA website here and here.
-AAdvantage Moderator Team
AA and OpenSkies / EC codeshare (now part of TATL JBV; joining oneworld Dec 1 2012)
Dec 7, 2011, 6:57 pm
#16
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,222
A big ^!!! Very much looking forward to flying EC and earning AAdvantage miles!
Dec 7, 2011, 8:11 pm
#17
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
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Just for reference, OpenSkies Bed and Seat Class seating:
Dec 7, 2011, 8:55 pm
#18
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,234
I wouldn't expect fares ex-EWR to be the same as ex-JFK; that's seldom the case. But I would expect the AA fare on EWR-ORY to be the same as the OpenSkies fare to be the same as the BA fare for the same flight once the JBA goes into effect.
Dec 8, 2011, 5:14 am
#19
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,916
A couple words of warning
- At EWR EC uses the Jet Airways lounge. When I was in it it was overcrowded and comes across more as a temporary lounge. It is also pre-security. Food is same as the BA J lounge and free drinks.
- The Biz Seat recliners are tight when the person in front of you reclines. There are also two types of 757s - ex-Avion and original-EC - they have different configurations. The emergency exit rows are by far the best, but on both of my flights they switched planes between online check-in and airport check-in.
- The lounge at ORY makes ACs look plush and generous in food selection
- FAs are inconsistent and not like BA. One flight it was WN style joking and over the top "I am blessed to be with you today, and I am blessed to be working with the best colleagues anyone could want" to not willing to collect used newspapers and instead instructing me to go to the lav and pitch them.
- Check-in was swift at both EWR and ORY and ORY has a great fast track
- Food was very good both ways, however, it took 45 minutes to get a drink both ways after takeoff. Refills were sporadic, and after meal service FAs disappeared on both flights.
- The Biz Seat recliners are tight when the person in front of you reclines. There are also two types of 757s - ex-Avion and original-EC - they have different configurations. The emergency exit rows are by far the best, but on both of my flights they switched planes between online check-in and airport check-in.
- The lounge at ORY makes ACs look plush and generous in food selection
- FAs are inconsistent and not like BA. One flight it was WN style joking and over the top "I am blessed to be with you today, and I am blessed to be working with the best colleagues anyone could want" to not willing to collect used newspapers and instead instructing me to go to the lav and pitch them.
- Check-in was swift at both EWR and ORY and ORY has a great fast track
- Food was very good both ways, however, it took 45 minutes to get a drink both ways after takeoff. Refills were sporadic, and after meal service FAs disappeared on both flights.
Dec 8, 2011, 5:46 am
#20
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: AUS / DXB
Programs: BA Silver | AA LT Gold | EY Silver | Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 1,838
How will classes/fares be determined on this? J = BizSeat, F = BizBed?
Dec 8, 2011, 8:55 am
#21
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: New York, NY, USA
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- At EWR EC uses the Jet Airways lounge. When I was in it it was overcrowded and comes across more as a temporary lounge. It is also pre-security. Food is same as the BA J lounge and free drinks.
- The Biz Seat recliners are tight when the person in front of you reclines. There are also two types of 757s - ex-Avion and original-EC - they have different configurations. The emergency exit rows are by far the best, but on both of my flights they switched planes between online check-in and airport check-in.
- The lounge at ORY makes ACs look plush and generous in food selection
- FAs are inconsistent and not like BA. One flight it was WN style joking and over the top "I am blessed to be with you today, and I am blessed to be working with the best colleagues anyone could want" to not willing to collect used newspapers and instead instructing me to go to the lav and pitch them.
- Check-in was swift at both EWR and ORY and ORY has a great fast track
- Food was very good both ways, however, it took 45 minutes to get a drink both ways after takeoff. Refills were sporadic, and after meal service FAs disappeared on both flights.
- The Biz Seat recliners are tight when the person in front of you reclines. There are also two types of 757s - ex-Avion and original-EC - they have different configurations. The emergency exit rows are by far the best, but on both of my flights they switched planes between online check-in and airport check-in.
- The lounge at ORY makes ACs look plush and generous in food selection
- FAs are inconsistent and not like BA. One flight it was WN style joking and over the top "I am blessed to be with you today, and I am blessed to be working with the best colleagues anyone could want" to not willing to collect used newspapers and instead instructing me to go to the lav and pitch them.
- Check-in was swift at both EWR and ORY and ORY has a great fast track
- Food was very good both ways, however, it took 45 minutes to get a drink both ways after takeoff. Refills were sporadic, and after meal service FAs disappeared on both flights.
I'd agree with much of this assessment, except that I found ORY checkin excrutiatingly slow, and while EWR was definitely better, it was not "swift."
I'd add that I prefer the ex-EC planes to the ex-Avion ones.
Dec 8, 2011, 9:06 am
#22
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,916
I felt like asking "which of your planes have First Class or are your referring to Biz Bed?" I didn't bother as I could see it would be a non-starter and I was going to be w this chap for the next 8 hours.
Dec 10, 2011, 4:31 am
#23
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SFO/OAK
Programs: AA EXP 3.4MM, BAEC, UAMP, Skyteam (<10k) HH Gold, IHG Plat, Hertz Gold, GE/TSA TT
Posts: 2,723
- At EWR EC uses the Jet Airways lounge. When I was in it it was overcrowded and comes across more as a temporary lounge. It is also pre-security. Food is same as the BA J lounge and free drinks.
- The Biz Seat recliners are tight when the person in front of you reclines. There are also two types of 757s - ex-Avion and original-EC - they have different configurations. The emergency exit rows are by far the best, but on both of my flights they switched planes between online check-in and airport check-in.
- The lounge at ORY makes ACs look plush and generous in food selection
- FAs are inconsistent and not like BA. One flight it was WN style joking and over the top "I am blessed to be with you today, and I am blessed to be working with the best colleagues anyone could want" to not willing to collect used newspapers and instead instructing me to go to the lav and pitch them.
- Check-in was swift at both EWR and ORY and ORY has a great fast track
- Food was very good both ways, however, it took 45 minutes to get a drink both ways after takeoff. Refills were sporadic, and after meal service FAs disappeared on both flights.
- The Biz Seat recliners are tight when the person in front of you reclines. There are also two types of 757s - ex-Avion and original-EC - they have different configurations. The emergency exit rows are by far the best, but on both of my flights they switched planes between online check-in and airport check-in.
- The lounge at ORY makes ACs look plush and generous in food selection
- FAs are inconsistent and not like BA. One flight it was WN style joking and over the top "I am blessed to be with you today, and I am blessed to be working with the best colleagues anyone could want" to not willing to collect used newspapers and instead instructing me to go to the lav and pitch them.
- Check-in was swift at both EWR and ORY and ORY has a great fast track
- Food was very good both ways, however, it took 45 minutes to get a drink both ways after takeoff. Refills were sporadic, and after meal service FAs disappeared on both flights.
Jan 12, 2012, 4:51 pm
#24
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP, B6 Mosaic, UA Platinum, others
Posts: 1,270
Openskies EQM
Anyone know if one can earn EQM from Openskies flights?
Jan 12, 2012, 5:28 pm
#25
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
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You can not at this time (unless on an AA codeshare)); you can see all the airlines you can earn EQ and RD miles here on aa.com.
Jan 18, 2012, 12:59 pm
#26
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 5
Sale on Open Skies
I bought tix on Open Skies in the beginning of January and just found out they've reduced prices by $500 or more. I called but they said they cannot do refunds--any thoughts?
Jan 19, 2012, 2:54 pm
#27
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
Is there a secret trick for booking tickets on these codeshares? I see the flights listed on EF, but I can't find any evidence of them on aa.com. Do I need to book through a third party site?
Feb 28, 2012, 6:12 am
#28
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
To answer my own question, these flights suddenly started to show up in flight searches from NYC to PAR. I guess aa.com finally caught up with the rest of the world.
Apr 20, 2012, 1:18 pm
#29
Moderator: American AAdvantage
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BTW, Joe Brancatelli indicates the BizSeat section is sold as "W" fare class by AA - meaning it would earn 1 Base Mile EQM, but only 1, not 1.5, EQPs.
Nov 27, 2012, 5:23 pm
#30
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 6
Hi everyone. I'm new at this (first post), so please have patience. I read this thread and I am still confused. I hope someone will help me out.
I booked AA flight 6243 ORY to EWR. It says "operated by Openskies as British Airways". I called American last week, as I was trying to figure out if I'll make EXP this year. They told me that this flight doesn't count for EQM. I called again today, and they told me that it DOES qualify.
So, instead of calling AA a third time and spending another half hour + on the phone with them, I decided to register here and ask you guys--whom know all!
Can anyone tell me for sure if I'll get EQM and AATHX for this flight? Thank you!!!!
I found on another thread that as of Dec 1, 2012 it does count. Posting the answer in case anyone else is looking for this info. <redacted>
I booked AA flight 6243 ORY to EWR. It says "operated by Openskies as British Airways". I called American last week, as I was trying to figure out if I'll make EXP this year. They told me that this flight doesn't count for EQM. I called again today, and they told me that it DOES qualify.
So, instead of calling AA a third time and spending another half hour + on the phone with them, I decided to register here and ask you guys--whom know all!
Can anyone tell me for sure if I'll get EQM and AATHX for this flight? Thank you!!!!
I found on another thread that as of Dec 1, 2012 it does count. Posting the answer in case anyone else is looking for this info. <redacted>
Last edited by Microwave; Nov 28, 2012 at 6:11 am Reason: Merged adjacent posts; redacted reference to cross-post