View Poll Results: If AA Citi Exec MC purchases no longer count toward Million Miler status after 2012:
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely keep my card - other benefits worth it
12
7.45%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably keep my card
11
6.83%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I'm not sure yet if I will keep or cancel my card
23
14.29%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably cancel my card
26
16.15%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely cancel my card - other benefits not worth it
46
28.57%
Obtained card after Nov 30, 2011: I'm already ineligible for this benefit anyways
8
4.97%
I'm not a cardholder: I would enroll if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
22
13.66%
I'm not a cardholder: I would not enroll even if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
3
1.86%
I'm not a cardholder: I just want to see the poll results
10
6.21%
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Archive: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (& MM poll)
Nov 7, 2011, 5:51 pm
#886
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Emerald City
Programs: 1MM AA - finally
Posts: 362
I might be able to get away with charm if I weren't traveling with my infant.
. I'm pretty sure no amount of charm would encourage them to let me in under those circumstances.
Nov 7, 2011, 5:55 pm
#887
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold but PlatPro thanks to LPs
Posts: 4,439
Nov 7, 2011, 6:08 pm
#888
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Times Square
Programs: SPG Gold, AAdvantage
Posts: 1,397
My husband just got his spouse card. It doesn't have the Admirals Club logo on the back like mine does. Not that he travels without me anyways.
Nov 7, 2011, 7:38 pm
#889
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
Needless to day, I was declined and noone wanted to deal with me when I called customer service. I sent a letter to Ken Stork last Monday. They received it on Tuesday am (sent via UPS). On Friday, a customer service agent from SD called me, informing me that they received my letter and have now approved my application! My official email notification for the new card just arrived today.
^^^
Nov 7, 2011, 8:43 pm
#891
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, WN A-List, Marriot Gold, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 376
Your baby might actually help
My daughter when she was younger would get us all kinds of cool perks while on board atleast. Plus she was always very quiet, but FA's would always pick her up and rock her up and down the aisles.
And yet she wouldn't would hardly make a peep. I think they were reliving there young ones from days past.
HP
Nov 7, 2011, 11:01 pm
#892
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP; UA 1K, AS 75K, LT Titanium, Globalist
Posts: 625
I'm not sure if this was covered here, but given my AC membership was up for renewal, I started investigating this card seriously. While others have mentioned that this car provides a benefit of FULL AC membership, that in fact is not true, at least not for another month or so. here's why...
one of the biggest/best benefits of the AC is the lesser known rebooking service whereby AC angels pull up distressed pax lists after getting a call from the Tower or noticing a delayed inbound. The way the pull the list is by originating flight and member. The guest roster shows an ADM flag next to passengers who are true members. This helps the club actually go through the list, make calls to people traveling in, etc.
After asking a few different AC agents, it turns out that Amex and Citi entrants do not have this flag, and therefore have no way of coming up on the roster in the case of such a query. As such, as of now, the admirals club membership still has distinct advantages over the citi one.
One note was that after much digging, I received a call from one of the agents at SFO. She said they've flagged the issue after it was reported, and that AA IT will be working on a solution over the next few weeks to fix it so that Citi members do show up with a flag that can be queried.
one of the biggest/best benefits of the AC is the lesser known rebooking service whereby AC angels pull up distressed pax lists after getting a call from the Tower or noticing a delayed inbound. The way the pull the list is by originating flight and member. The guest roster shows an ADM flag next to passengers who are true members. This helps the club actually go through the list, make calls to people traveling in, etc.
After asking a few different AC agents, it turns out that Amex and Citi entrants do not have this flag, and therefore have no way of coming up on the roster in the case of such a query. As such, as of now, the admirals club membership still has distinct advantages over the citi one.
One note was that after much digging, I received a call from one of the agents at SFO. She said they've flagged the issue after it was reported, and that AA IT will be working on a solution over the next few weeks to fix it so that Citi members do show up with a flag that can be queried.
Nov 7, 2011, 11:37 pm
#893
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Boston-Atlanta Metropolitan Axis
Posts: 208
One note was that after much digging, I received a call from one of the agents at SFO. She said they've flagged the issue after it was reported, and that AA IT will be working on a solution over the next few weeks to fix it so that Citi members do show up with a flag that can be queried.
Nov 8, 2011, 8:53 am
#894
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tulsa, OK
Programs: AA EXP, UA Silver, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,264
I believe this answers my question
Right now, I have NO status with American. I'm planning to switch over next year from UA to American and this seems to be a viable option for me to consider which gives me pseudo status until I earn it. The AC membership and the waived foreign transaction fees pay for the fees. The fact it's NOT an AMEX is a HUGE plus for me for 2 reasons..
1. Sams Club does NOT accept Amex. They do accept Mastercard. I have an existing World AA Mastercard so I may covert unless signing up (without converting) is a better option.
2. Traveling abroad without Amex is a major pain. We found it rough to find places that accept Amex. Most of the time I have to use cash or pay the fees (neither option I like).
One question: Do I need to pay for the flight with this card to reap the benefits of the bag fees etc? All my travel is corporately paid on their own card so I am hoping the bag fee waivers etc are tied to my AAdvantage #.
So is there a sort of pseudo-status entry in cardholders' AAdvantage accounts that automatically grants PriorityAAccess boarding, bag fee waivers, etc? Or does one have to present the plastic card for these benefits?
1. Sams Club does NOT accept Amex. They do accept Mastercard. I have an existing World AA Mastercard so I may covert unless signing up (without converting) is a better option.
2. Traveling abroad without Amex is a major pain. We found it rough to find places that accept Amex. Most of the time I have to use cash or pay the fees (neither option I like).
One question: Do I need to pay for the flight with this card to reap the benefits of the bag fees etc? All my travel is corporately paid on their own card so I am hoping the bag fee waivers etc are tied to my AAdvantage #.
Nov 8, 2011, 9:23 am
#895
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 413
I believe this answers my question
Right now, I have NO status with American. I'm planning to switch over next year from UA to American and this seems to be a viable option for me to consider which gives me pseudo status until I earn it. The AC membership and the waived foreign transaction fees pay for the fees. The fact it's NOT an AMEX is a HUGE plus for me for 2 reasons..
1. Sams Club does NOT accept Amex. They do accept Mastercard. I have an existing World AA Mastercard so I may covert unless signing up (without converting) is a better option.
2. Traveling abroad without Amex is a major pain. We found it rough to find places that accept Amex. Most of the time I have to use cash or pay the fees (neither option I like).
One question: Do I need to pay for the flight with this card to reap the benefits of the bag fees etc? All my travel is corporately paid on their own card so I am hoping the bag fee waivers etc are tied to my AAdvantage #.
Right now, I have NO status with American. I'm planning to switch over next year from UA to American and this seems to be a viable option for me to consider which gives me pseudo status until I earn it. The AC membership and the waived foreign transaction fees pay for the fees. The fact it's NOT an AMEX is a HUGE plus for me for 2 reasons..
1. Sams Club does NOT accept Amex. They do accept Mastercard. I have an existing World AA Mastercard so I may covert unless signing up (without converting) is a better option.
2. Traveling abroad without Amex is a major pain. We found it rough to find places that accept Amex. Most of the time I have to use cash or pay the fees (neither option I like).
One question: Do I need to pay for the flight with this card to reap the benefits of the bag fees etc? All my travel is corporately paid on their own card so I am hoping the bag fee waivers etc are tied to my AAdvantage #.
It is tied to your AA #, you will notice you are Gold with AA once you gain card membership, and it seems to happen fairly quickly that they grant this status it seems, the only thing that seems to be lacking from true Gold status is the 25% bonus miles (which I believe some have actually reported is happening). It would surprise me if AA IT dept actually gets this right given their track record.
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Nov 8, 2011, 9:34 am
#896
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tulsa, OK
Programs: AA EXP, UA Silver, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,264
I would just convert the existing card you have (assuming it has a annual fee? ) It seems the 25k bonus miles are hit/miss with a conversion, but you won't get the credit pull and you'll get the card immediately thus getting the Psuedo gold benefits immediately rather than waiting the "cool off period"
I'm fine giving up the 25% bonus mileage (and minimum earn on miles) until I hit Gold when I earn it.
The free bag and priority checkin/boarding more than offset that.
Nov 8, 2011, 9:50 am
#897
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Santa Monica and Siena
Programs: 10 MM + 2013, AA EXP,Lifetime AC ,Crown Room, Red Carpet,USAIR CLUB ,Hertz Plat, Hilton Dia, GS +++
Posts: 455
I'm not sure if this was covered here, but given my AC membership was up for renewal, I started investigating this card seriously. While others have mentioned that this car provides a benefit of FULL AC membership, that in fact is not true, at least not for another month or so. here's why...
one of the biggest/best benefits of the AC is the lesser known rebooking service whereby AC angels pull up distressed pax lists after getting a call from the Tower or noticing a delayed inbound. The way the pull the list is by originating flight and member. The guest roster shows an ADM flag next to passengers who are true members. This helps the club actually go through the list, make calls to people traveling in, etc.
After asking a few different AC agents, it turns out that Amex and Citi entrants do not have this flag, and therefore have no way of coming up on the roster in the case of such a query. As such, as of now, the admirals club membership still has distinct advantages over the citi one.
One note was that after much digging, I received a call from one of the agents at SFO. She said they've flagged the issue after it was reported, and that AA IT will be working on a solution over the next few weeks to fix it so that Citi members do show up with a flag that can be queried.
one of the biggest/best benefits of the AC is the lesser known rebooking service whereby AC angels pull up distressed pax lists after getting a call from the Tower or noticing a delayed inbound. The way the pull the list is by originating flight and member. The guest roster shows an ADM flag next to passengers who are true members. This helps the club actually go through the list, make calls to people traveling in, etc.
After asking a few different AC agents, it turns out that Amex and Citi entrants do not have this flag, and therefore have no way of coming up on the roster in the case of such a query. As such, as of now, the admirals club membership still has distinct advantages over the citi one.
One note was that after much digging, I received a call from one of the agents at SFO. She said they've flagged the issue after it was reported, and that AA IT will be working on a solution over the next few weeks to fix it so that Citi members do show up with a flag that can be queried.
Quite a package it comes in - reminds me of the way paper VIP's used to arrive via Fed Ex in a box......
Nov 8, 2011, 11:16 am
#899
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: AA PLT 2MM
Posts: 2,026
I hope the CSR was correct on this...
My existing AAdvantage VISA Platinum Signature account was converted on Sunday, and the new cards (mine and DW) were shipped out to me yesterday using UPS next day (so they should be here at any moment).
I called Citi today just to get the tracking number, and while I had the agent on the line I thought I'd ask what's going to happen to the charges that I had already made on the Visa card that hadn't posted yet. Was concerned for reasons just to make sure they'd post properly and I don't end up with angry merchants or anything like that, and also if I'd properly get the miles I'm owed for spending on the Visa since the statement hadn't closed yet when they did the conversion. Additionally, the VISA was on a retention offer giving a bonus 750 miles for cycles in which I hit $750 in spending. During the course of this conversation she said that all charges had already moved to my new Executive account (in fact when I called in and entered the old Visa number on the card through the automated system, when forwarded to the agent it brought up all the information on the Executive MC account instead -- she could not see the old Visa card info). At this point she further added that she could see that I do have the retention offer of the bonus 750 miles per $750 spent applied to the Executive card, good until March 2012.
I am rather surprised by this given that 45 days ago when I started the conversion process I was told that it's very unlikely the retention offers would carry over given that it's a new card. At the time I didn't bother arguing for it to do so because the Specialist who was converting me promised to note in my account to make sure I get the 25K bonus miles at conversion time. At any rate, for the agent today to have pulled up the Executive card and seen this retention offer also applied to it is really just another small yet pleasant surprise. Naturally, given typical CSR accuracy ratio in matters more complicated, such as this, I won't count the chicks before they hatch, however, given the context of the conversation, I am optimistic on the accuracy of this.
If true, this also means that retention offers are possible on this card too (not that you'd necessarily get them if you tried though).
Now of course, the additional curiosity is if AA will really only count base spending posted from this card and not 'bonuses' towards million miler after this month.
I called Citi today just to get the tracking number, and while I had the agent on the line I thought I'd ask what's going to happen to the charges that I had already made on the Visa card that hadn't posted yet. Was concerned for reasons just to make sure they'd post properly and I don't end up with angry merchants or anything like that, and also if I'd properly get the miles I'm owed for spending on the Visa since the statement hadn't closed yet when they did the conversion. Additionally, the VISA was on a retention offer giving a bonus 750 miles for cycles in which I hit $750 in spending. During the course of this conversation she said that all charges had already moved to my new Executive account (in fact when I called in and entered the old Visa number on the card through the automated system, when forwarded to the agent it brought up all the information on the Executive MC account instead -- she could not see the old Visa card info). At this point she further added that she could see that I do have the retention offer of the bonus 750 miles per $750 spent applied to the Executive card, good until March 2012.
I am rather surprised by this given that 45 days ago when I started the conversion process I was told that it's very unlikely the retention offers would carry over given that it's a new card. At the time I didn't bother arguing for it to do so because the Specialist who was converting me promised to note in my account to make sure I get the 25K bonus miles at conversion time. At any rate, for the agent today to have pulled up the Executive card and seen this retention offer also applied to it is really just another small yet pleasant surprise. Naturally, given typical CSR accuracy ratio in matters more complicated, such as this, I won't count the chicks before they hatch, however, given the context of the conversation, I am optimistic on the accuracy of this.
If true, this also means that retention offers are possible on this card too (not that you'd necessarily get them if you tried though).
Now of course, the additional curiosity is if AA will really only count base spending posted from this card and not 'bonuses' towards million miler after this month.
Nov 8, 2011, 11:28 am
#900
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: OKC
Programs: IHG Spire, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 2,274
It is tied to your AA #, you will notice you are Gold with AA once you gain card membership, and it seems to happen fairly quickly that they grant this status it seems, the only thing that seems to be lacking from true Gold status is the 25% bonus miles (which I believe some have actually reported is happening). It would surprise me if AA IT dept actually gets this right given their track record.
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