JALPak

More likely not...they are replacing 763 with 787 but you never know

ctflyer3000

Maybe it's a dead horse, but I will chime in to say there is absolutely no PY on NH 767s interasia. Especially 4 rows of it.

As for updating the 767s, I think they are planning to slowly sell them off. They have to do something with (the eventual) 50+ 787s!

joejones

PLEASE say this isn't true. I got the ice cream on two long-haul flights back in April. If it's gone now, I will officially say that NH has nickel-and-dimed themselves to death.

ORDnHKG

In that thread, you were talking about slippers in long haul economy, which I replied there was none, only exist in premium economy. The conditon still hold true as of now or back then. Only long haul premium economy has slippers.

Even when 747 with premium economy fly regional routes like NRT-HKG, there is no slippers at all, as those seats are not sold as premium economy, just as regular Y for NH elites and sometimes *G. Regional routes no matter the plane is 4 class (F,C,PY,Y) or 2 class, it always sell as C and Y only.

I don't quite understand what makes you keep saying there is, as none of the other NH frequent fliers agree what you said at all.

Are you talking about long haul or regional ? As for regional routes, ice cream is retricted to C only, in fact ice cream is served as desert for C exclusively.

ORDnHKG

NH C seats on the 763 is good enough, they are only used for regional routes, unlike some carriers use it for long haul. Why would they need to spend money to update a regional product when 787 is coming soon ?

There are only 3 routes are a little longer in NH's system, all other 763 routes are within 5 hours range. NH tend to rotate all 763 in all different routes, rather than just restricted to several routes.

Euan

I would agree. For the 6 hour flight from BKK-NRT I took on the 763 I found the seats perfect. Not sure if it was being in row 1 with no one reclining into you that helped.

joejones

A number of SE Asia routes (as well as NRT-HNL) are eastbound red-eyes, and many NH competitors in these markets (SQ, UA, DL, OZ, CX etc.) offer either lie-flat or flat-bed seats in business class, so NH is well behind the times.

tonywestsider

1. Regarding slippers in the 2008 thread, that discussion was in general regarding amenities and yes the discussion was regarding long haul and regional service, economy and premium economy. All four discussions were mixed in the same thread in different posts. The OP in this thread discussed Business class on a regional 763. Then there was discussion where I thought there was PE on a 763, where it seems there is not, however, amenities such as slippers were found by me on some of the 763 flights, which suggest PE amenities as discussed in the posts referring to long haul PE in the 2008 thread. Confusing? Sure, I don't disagree to that. Was it a mistake by NH service crews placing slippers in that part of the cabin in the 763s? I don't know. It sure didn't look like a mistake to me.

2. I don't want to get into a lengthy discussion about ice cream nor PJs as the 2008 thread got into. I do remember the ice cream service in long haul Y class back in 2007. It was not available last week on long haul nor the week before. If ice cream is only available in regional C today then that's the service NH has today. I won't argue about that. I certainly did not see any ice cream served in a regional 763 flight Y cabin over a week ago.

ctflyer3000

I concur. Perhaps with the introduction of their new product we will see a retrofititng of their 'lie flat' seats on Asian routes.

beofotch

any updates on how the ANA "Air Japan" 767 Regional Business class stacks up?

global happy traveller

Good for day flights, hard to sleep for redeyes

joejones

It depends to some extent on whether you get an "old" 767 or a "new" 767, but both seats are effectively recliners so there doesn't seem to be a huge difference.

armagebedar

It's the same as other NH's intra-Asia business class -- Club Asia seats with the same service as mainline NH flights.

beofotch

thanks for the responses. In September 2013 I'm flying on an Award ticket with my wife, which includes SGN - NRT and KIX - HKG both on a NH767. The KIX - HKG segment is part of a United Airlines F Award Ticket (KIX - HKG - BKK - SYD - AKL - NOU). What are the chances NH substitutes or schedule changes KIX - HKG into 3 class equipment? If so, I could call UA and have them add me to F instead of the C cabin. I am guessing SGN - NRT is less likely to have a 3 cabin aircraft in the future.

wattage

FYI only: I don't know if folks consider NRT-DEL to be Intra-Asia, but I had ice cream on the way to DEL flying economy last week. I got chocolates on the way back, instead. I got ice cream in Y on SEA-NRT both directions.