What does the all Q400 fleet mean for PDX-SFO
Mar 11, 2009, 1:32 am
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Mar 11, 2009, 12:47 pm
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It's official: http://www.alaskaair.com/www2/Promo/...asp?pid=AS0904
The separate announcement page says
It doesn't mention the Q400 or when it might switch over. But "initial" is an ominous word.
The separate announcement page says
The initial schedule for all of these flights will be operated with Horizon's 70-seat CRJ—700 regional jets.
Mar 11, 2009, 1:26 pm
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BOI-SJC on a Q400, 523 miles: 1h 59m
PDX-SFO on a 737, 550 miles: 1h 54m (AS), 1 h 45m (WN) (actually, PDX-OAK, WN doesn't fly PDX-SFO)
Why is this "ominous"? Q400s are pretty reasonable options for a 500-600 mile flight- a touch slower than a 737, but it's not really a huge deal, and if the tradeoff is having an extra frequency or two...
The tricky part is going to be PDX-SoCal without an RJ, once QX gets to that point... though I might note that WN doesn't have any direct PDX-BUR service (you'll be stopping in OAK, RNO, SMF or SJC first), and ONT is looking less and less tenable as airlines flee it.
PDX-SFO on a 737, 550 miles: 1h 54m (AS), 1 h 45m (WN) (actually, PDX-OAK, WN doesn't fly PDX-SFO)
Why is this "ominous"? Q400s are pretty reasonable options for a 500-600 mile flight- a touch slower than a 737, but it's not really a huge deal, and if the tradeoff is having an extra frequency or two...
The tricky part is going to be PDX-SoCal without an RJ, once QX gets to that point... though I might note that WN doesn't have any direct PDX-BUR service (you'll be stopping in OAK, RNO, SMF or SJC first), and ONT is looking less and less tenable as airlines flee it.
Mar 11, 2009, 1:27 pm
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This page, actually: http://www.alaskaair.com/as/www2/pro...ent-change.asp
Mar 11, 2009, 6:23 pm
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EDIT: The return today (QX2520) was 1hr 19min in the air and 1hr 33min gate to gate.
Mar 12, 2009, 1:19 am
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It's official: http://www.alaskaair.com/www2/Promo/...asp?pid=AS0904
The separate announcement page says It doesn't mention the Q400 or when it might switch over. But "initial" is an ominous word.
The separate announcement page says It doesn't mention the Q400 or when it might switch over. But "initial" is an ominous word.
(current), [future]
PDX - LAX: (4 AS/ 2 QX), [ 3 AS / 2 QX]
PDX - LGB: (2 AS/ 0 QX), [ 1 AS / 1 QX] (B6 trades one E90 for a A320 for summer)
I do hope that AS can reinstate some lost frequencies to PDX when the economy gets better.
~FAI PDX Flyer
Mar 12, 2009, 10:49 am
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Yikes! It's going to get awfully crowded in the A terminal this summer. And empty in the C terminal.
I wonder if they would consider letting QX utilize some of the C gates to relieve the crowding in the A terminal.
I wonder if they would consider letting QX utilize some of the C gates to relieve the crowding in the A terminal.
Mar 12, 2009, 2:54 pm
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In addition, KVS shows SoCal downgrades as well for PDX, choosing 15 June as a base [future] date:
(current), [future]
PDX - LAX: (4 AS/ 2 QX), [ 3 AS / 2 QX]
PDX - LGB: (2 AS/ 0 QX), [ 1 AS / 1 QX] (B6 trades one E90 for a A320 for summer)
I do hope that AS can reinstate some lost frequencies to PDX when the economy gets better.
~FAI PDX Flyer
(current), [future]
PDX - LAX: (4 AS/ 2 QX), [ 3 AS / 2 QX]
PDX - LGB: (2 AS/ 0 QX), [ 1 AS / 1 QX] (B6 trades one E90 for a A320 for summer)
I do hope that AS can reinstate some lost frequencies to PDX when the economy gets better.
~FAI PDX Flyer