El Al (LY) Award Redemptions
#1
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El Al (LY) Award Redemptions
I can’t find any El Al award space using Alaska miles on the website. Does El Al award show on the AS website or do you have to call in?
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https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/el-al-israel-airlines?lid=airline-partnersartners-el-al
“Fly EL AL to Israel and earn Mileage Plan miles.”
earn, not “earn and redeem”.
Notice they aren’t on the award chart anywhere.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...ID:MileagePlan
“Fly EL AL to Israel and earn Mileage Plan miles.”
earn, not “earn and redeem”.
Notice they aren’t on the award chart anywhere.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...ID:MileagePlan
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Just pointing out that the page for JL also doesn't say "redeem" either, but clearly redeeming is possible. (I'm not disputing that redemption isn't available on El Al, just being pedantic.)
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/japan-airlines?lid=airline-partnersartners-japan
[sorry, the link contains a digraph that the board interprets as an emoji, and I don't know how to fix it]
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/japan-airlines?lid=airline-partnersartners-japan
[sorry, the link contains a digraph that the board interprets as an emoji, and I don't know how to fix it]
Explore the vibrant expanse of Japanese culture while earning Mileage Plan miles
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Just pointing out that the page for JL also doesn't say "redeem" either, but clearly redeeming is possible. (I'm not disputing that redemption isn't available on El Al, just being pedantic.)
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/japan-airlines?lid=airline-partnersartners-japan
[sorry, the link contains a digraph that the board interprets as an emoji, and I don't know how to fix it]
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/japan-airlines?lid=airline-partnersartners-japan
[sorry, the link contains a digraph that the board interprets as an emoji, and I don't know how to fix it]
#5
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I called Alaska asking about this a few times and it seems like they were going to try to do this before Covid, but has since been put on the back burner. I have some family members that were able to purchase connecting flights on Alaska through el al, TLV to LAX El Al, connecting to Alaska LAX-SJC, Which means there is codeshares at least one way call my I hope at some point there is a codeshare the other way.
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I called Alaska asking about this a few times and it seems like they were going to try to do this before Covid, but has since been put on the back burner. I have some family members that were able to purchase connecting flights on Alaska through el al, TLV to LAX El Al, connecting to Alaska LAX-SJC, Which means there is codeshares at least one way call my I hope at some point there is a codeshare the other way.
#7
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if you purchase a cash ticket on El Al, And the first flight is operated by them, the second one is Alaska, then el al has codeshares some Alaska routes, no?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlining
You can literally buy tickets that have AS and BR segments, as well as AS and DL segments. You do not need to codeshare to interline.
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No. It does not require a codeshare.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlining
You can literally buy tickets that have AS and BR segments, as well as AS and DL segments. You do not need to codeshare to interline.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlining
You can literally buy tickets that have AS and BR segments, as well as AS and DL segments. You do not need to codeshare to interline.
but how can You tell it is an interline rather then codeshare?
also if there is an interline one way is there a interline the other way? Can I book an el al flight with Alaska? (With cash)
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LY has been a partner since July 2019 and the question is when will Mileage Plan redemptions on LY flights be possible. As above, it was the plan pre-covid to have an LY chart, is there be any news/timeframe regarding using AS miles on LY flights? Cannot seem to find any online...
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Interlining implies both airlines can have flights on the ticket so your “interline the other way” question doesn’t make sense. If you’re asking “can I go to Alaskaair.com and buy a SEA-TLV ticket that has LY flights” the answer is no. But if you went to Expedia and got a TLV-SFO-SEA-ANC-OTZ ticket issued, AS is probably flying some of those segments (at least ANC-OTZ). Does that explain this?
PS: AS partner award tickets are interlined, not code shared, unless QX or OO is flying the plane with the Inuk gentleman on the tail.
#12
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Codeshares have additional flight numbers. E.g. AS 1/LY 6001 (this is 100% made up as an example). Same flight, different numbering. AS 1 shows up as an LY flight and could be shown as such on an LY ticket (probably with a “flown by Alaska Airlines” disclaimer).
Interlining implies both airlines can have flights on the ticket so your “interline the other way” question doesn’t make sense. If you’re asking “can I go to Alaskaair.com and buy a SEA-TLV ticket that has LY flights” the answer is no. But if you went to Expedia and got a TLV-SFO-SEA-ANC-OTZ ticket issued, AS is probably flying some of those segments (at least ANC-OTZ). Does that explain this?
PS: AS partner award tickets are interlined, not code shared, unless QX or OO is flying the plane with the Inuk gentleman on the tail.
Interlining implies both airlines can have flights on the ticket so your “interline the other way” question doesn’t make sense. If you’re asking “can I go to Alaskaair.com and buy a SEA-TLV ticket that has LY flights” the answer is no. But if you went to Expedia and got a TLV-SFO-SEA-ANC-OTZ ticket issued, AS is probably flying some of those segments (at least ANC-OTZ). Does that explain this?
PS: AS partner award tickets are interlined, not code shared, unless QX or OO is flying the plane with the Inuk gentleman on the tail.
#13
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The only way to get to TLV on an award seems to be Iberia, Royal Air Maroc, Finnair, RJ, and BA (but they never release J space LHR-TLV-LHR).
Does anyone have any other suggestions? I found some space on Finnair having to overnight in HEL.
Does anyone have any other suggestions? I found some space on Finnair having to overnight in HEL.
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i think it is hard to justify paying that when you are already using miles.
That’s why, just like you I can wait for el al award redemptions.
they are currently the only airline with LAX-TLV direct.
the one thing I was wondering is American flys from DFW MIA and JFK to tlv, So you are able to pay cash for LAX-(MIA DFW JFK)-TLV, but I was not able to find these flights using Alaska miles.
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yeh, I see the same thing, Ibearia and royal air Maroc is new so that is nice, and the cheapest one is the fin air but most of them require a overnight in HEL and they don’t have award space every day. Also BA charges super high taxes and fees so
i think it is hard to justify paying that when you are already using miles.
That’s why, just like you I can wait for el al award redemptions.
they are currently the only airline with LAX-TLV direct.
the one thing I was wondering is American flys from DFW MIA and JFK to tlv, So you are able to pay cash for LAX-(MIA DFW JFK)-TLV, but I was not able to find these flights using Alaska miles.
i think it is hard to justify paying that when you are already using miles.
That’s why, just like you I can wait for el al award redemptions.
they are currently the only airline with LAX-TLV direct.
the one thing I was wondering is American flys from DFW MIA and JFK to tlv, So you are able to pay cash for LAX-(MIA DFW JFK)-TLV, but I was not able to find these flights using Alaska miles.